Hearthpwn

Could make Umbra viable. 

Bittertide Hydra into Spreading Madness ftw

I've been trying to make the druid quest work for some time now and have concluded it's the most worthless card design ever. Not that I consider myself a genius who can make every card work but it just feels wrong. Even if you do survive and activate the quest you had already won without it. I tried so many things: Beast synergy with menagerie warden and tiger/hydra, C thun synergy, ramp based with lots of taunt, moonglade portals, you name it. Broadly speaking you can say there's a ramp version and a beast version. Neither makes sense and here's why:

1) Ramp: The theory is you skip early game, take some damage and hit back hard with biggies. Having 0 cost is useless when you have the mana to pay for it and dumping many biggies at once is kinda stupid cause you only ever get to do it against classes like warrior, mage or warlock who will brawl, freeze stall or twisting nether. Obviously you usually just die in the first 5-6 turns because of pirate warr / rogue quest. 

2) beast based: This worked the best for me (in the sense of the quest doing something) but requires a lot of card draw luck (order makes a huge difference). However you so often encounter the situation where your hand is nearly empty when you drop Barny. Meaning it's actually useless cause you can always play 1 card per turn, 0 cost means you get to hero power as a bonus if it was 9+ costed. 

My point is you lose both to aggro and in value games so what does this make the quest? Pure trash. I get the feeling you need more (overstatted) taunts with 5 damage in this meta to stand a chance. Maybe a taunt with an AOE effect like Chillmaw on turn 3 or 4. The fact that druid has no decent boardclear and no decent single target removal is so crippling that it makes the class unplayable unless maybe token-based aggro, which is also a luck fiesta in my opinion. 

The quest could work if Barnabus had a deathwing effect, even w/o discarding . Seems OP but in the games I encountered it would be fair compensation for the crippling effect the quest has. Moreover, you'd be able to punish aggro if you're quick enough and make value match ups more strategic about board flooding. Less important: it would also kinda fit the theme: huge dino stomping the board. :)

The card is good but the 3 manas curve is not problematic?

The weapon, animal companion, Hounds, Deadly shot, Kill Command, if you play secret Cloaked Huntress, It is hard to decide what you cut off...

Discover is the best mechanic in the game IMHO.  It means you can play a deck you know by heart but still generate fresh experiences and decisions to make.  It means you can take your performance to the next level if you correctly play around the subtleties of minions and spells that aren't in your standard loadout.  

Playing against Pirates would be less boring if one of their must-include cards did "Discover a Pirate".  For a while Molten Blade was in Pirate decks and made for a few surprises.  

If Discover gets out of hand then it's ripe for a counter, eg Lorewalker Pao: "When your opponent Discovers a card, gain a copy."

Change some rules in constructed every season. 

5 health more per player

start with 3 mana available

start with more cards in your hand. 

Block some cards

you know, just like tavern brawl. But for constructed. Small changes would bring up new decks and keep the seasons fresh. 

Here is Kripps Video for Reference ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBcBmRqNB5s) 

For one i totally agree with kripp on the state of the game. Yes, you can argue that Un'Goro is the best meta we have had in several months, but the expansions is now over 2 months old and the game is starting to become stale again with nearly 2 more months until we get any new cards. 

Why is the game stale?

1: We Have no in game events for months at a time:

I know blizzard said they were working on getting more in-game events, but at this moment in time hearthstone has close to 0 in-game events. We have winterviel tavern brawl and we have the New Hearthstone year events, but apart from those two occasion we have very little new content outside expansions. When other games like Overwatch and heroes of the storm are getting monthly events and hearthstone only gets yearly events i think there is a serious problem. How can we have 70 million players when we get 2 events per year? i think Hearthstone is a great game, but without this new and interesting content it becomes really stale. 

2: Expansions Hype don't last more than 3-4 weeks on average:

I know this common is games, but in Hearthstone with little new content and broken decks being found quicker and quicker these days, i feel like this is part of the problem. I agree with Kripp how amazing the time is around the expansions and the hype building up to the expansion itself, but when someone finds a broken deck and within 2 week and lots of people starts playing it, the game becomes super stale.  For example Quest rogue. The caverns bellow was not as oppressive within the first week of Un'goro, but now 100's of people play it on rank as they want to win, which is fair, but without any new content or any new cards...the game once again become stale and people become angry as they are fed up playing against the same decks on ladder, for a 4 month period. If we get new content, such as mini expansions or a new game feature, the problem would not be as bad. 

3: No mini expansions or new features:

We all love tavern brawl, but for a game like hearthstone 1 new feature in  years at a time is just dumb. why cant we have co-op mode? tournament mode? more mini expansions with 5-10 new cards between big expansions? all questions we dont get clear answers too. Yes we can all laugh about how the deckslots took 2 years too come and how "the technology is not there yet" , but i am honestly a bit concerned how long it takes too add a second new feature to a game with 70 million players. 

4: The state of arena:

Arena is a bit of an RNG fest right now. 3 classes (rogue, Mage and Paladin) reign as the best, while the other classes struggle to compete. going first is still a problem, mage is still best in arena and most games come down to "Who crafted the most Primordial Glyph?". Cards like Viscous Fledgling feels oppressive to play against and still no obvious signs of any changes coming? 

5: Cards which feel oppressive barely ever get changed:

The cards which feel the most oppressive to play against are normally the ones who never get changed. Lets do an example, Patches, the pirate helped push pirate decks into the brink of Oppressiveness, but to fix that they printed a card likeGolakka Crawler. I think crabs that eat stuff should not be the only answer to cards/decks being more powerful than other. Another example is Jade Idol, which for 4 months was seen as one of the biggest mistakes in hearthstone History of being one of the most broken Value cards ever. Did it get fixed or changed? no..instead the next expansion pumped out more card to try and change peoples minds to play more broken cards like The rogue quest. i think after every expansion, we should have a mini update where weak/strong cards get changed as atm the Game directors attitude feels like "Lets see what happens" to every situation, regardless of the consequences. 

Summary:

Yes, i agree with kripp about the state of the game and the only reason i decided to write this is i care for the game alot and i want to share my views and opinions with the rest of you. I am sure many of you have similar opinions, i would love to hear them thanks! 

That burn mage is very clearly secret mage and this amuses me greatly. 

How I know the metagame is currently diverse:

How to counter Quest Shaman?

How to counter Pirate Warrior?

How to counter Murloc Paladin?

How to counter Priests?

How to counter Quest Rogue?

How to counter Quest Warrior?

How to counter Hunters?

I don't think there's ever been a time in Hearthstone's history that we've had so many active threads complaining about different decks.

Matches seem completely out of control at moments.

Quote from MasterScary >>

Where's the vote for "this doesn't belong on this website"?

 

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Enjoy, and stay hyped.

• Pterrordax Hatchling - Aww. So cute. Want to feed him another finger?
• Volcanosaur - Always fun to say out loud "VOL-CA-NO-SAUUUR!"
• Dinosize - Comes with fries and a drink.
• Ravasaur Runt - Doesn't like to adapt unless others are watching. Some minions are such show-offs.
• Sated Threshadon - Bet you can't eat just one murloc!
• Hydrologist - Murloc hydrologists are pretty rare. Most murloc undergrads pick computer science.
• Sunkeeper Tarim - Ironically, his favorite number is 4.
• Flame Geyser - Oh, a wise geyser eh?
• Air Elemental - Makes a mean puff pastry.
• Arcanologist - What did you draw? Shhhh… it’s a secret.
• Steam Surger - Explorers nicknamed him the Teapot Elemental.
• Mirage Caller - Mirage is actually the name of its long-lost cat.
• Mana Bind - Nice spell. YOINK!
• Volcano - Many young shaman summon a volcano as their first school project.
• Pyros - If you strike her down, she shall become more powerful than you can possibly… well, she'll become a 6/6 anyways.
• Open the Waygate - Although powerful, the incantation is simple. It’s just a jump to the left, and then a step to the right.
• Shadow Visions - This one’s a bird. And here’s a bunny!
• Binding Heal - By accepting this healing, you agree to the following terms…
• Crystalline Oracle - Being made of light has its disadvantages, but at least it's always looking on the bright side.
• Radiant Elemental - It's a literal lava lamp!
• Curious Glimmerroot - George promised to be good. But it's easy for little Glimmerroots to forget.
• Tortollan Shellraiser - A hero... In a half-shell.
• Ravenous Pterrordax - For better results, feed your pterrordax low-fat, high-fiber minions.
• Tar Lurker - Hi, Tar here. Long time lurking, first time taunting…
• Razorpetal Volley - The result of a fundamental misunderstanding of the phrase "flower power".
• Razorpetal Lasher - The reason why there are no zombies in Un'goro.
• Mimic Pod - Jinx!
• Obsidian Shard - You know you’re a Rogue when a sharp rock makes you go “Ooh!  Dagger!”
• Biteweed - AKA Edwin VanLeaf.
• Vilespine Slayer - 'Cause slayers gonna slay, slay, slay, slay, slay.
• Sherazin, Corpse Flower - A Tortollan gardener's worst nightmare.
• The Caverns Below - Why can't it ever be The Taverns Below?
• Tol'vir Stoneshaper - He spends a lot of time keeping himself in stoneshape.
• Giant Mastodon - Still salty about it not being the "Year of the Mastodon."
• Stonehill Defender - Briefly tried stand-up comedy under the name "Stonehill Offender", but turtles are just too thin-skinned.
• Rockpool Hunter - Loves crab meat. Fears crabs.
• Vicious Fledgling - A youngster who is truly hungry for self-improvement.
• Eggnapper - Often misunderstood, it's just that he likes to use the eggs as pillows.
• Tortollan Forager - In the Tortollan tongue, Un’goro is known as the “Land of the Lost and Found.”
• Frozen Crusher - Goes by the online handle "KoolKrusher99."
• Thunder Lizard - What? THUNDER LIZARD is adapting!
• Devilsaur Egg - A key ingredient in all discerning Funnel Cake recipes.
• Fire Plume Phoenix - This is what happens when you use a volcano as a bird bath.
• Emerald Hive Queen - She rules the emerald hive at the end of the yellow brick trail.
• Giant Anaconda - Must be something it ate.
• Bittertide Hydra - It's actually only the middle head that's bitter. The others are sweet and spicy.
• Tortollan Primalist - I see pizza in my future.
• Gentle Megasaur - "Low, low rents! Must enjoy a nomadic lifestyle. Quasi-sentient, bipedal, amphibious humanoids ONLY!"
• Charged Devilsaur - What happens when a dinosaur mixes soda and pop rocks.
• Verdant Longneck - Always sticking its neck into other people’s business.
• Shellshifter - Master of the Three Shell Monte.
• Evolving Spores - The most powerful mushrooms are commonly found in boxes marked with "?".
• Earthen Scales - You can make your own Earthen Scales at home. Step 1: Roll around in the dirt. Step 2: Magic.
• Elder Longneck - And so the bartender says, “Why the long neck?”
• Living Mana - If you truly love your mana, set it free.
• Bright-Eyed Scout - Also inordinately excited for cupcakes.
• Jungle Giants - Forming the Golakka Crater was the end of Barnabus' disastrous career as a dancer.
• Primalfin Totem - Emits a sound only murlocs can hear, which is good because it’s REALLY annoying.
• Fire Plume Harbinger - Good for summoning elementals. Great for making s'mores.
• Glacial Shard - Ice, ice, baby!
• Stone Sentinel - He and his friends just want to rock out.
• Kalimos, Primal Lord - All that's missing is a little heart.
• Terrorscale Stalker - Likes to scare his friends half to death.
• Nesting Roc - Roc eggs are great in omelettes, sandwiches, and as bait to turn poachers into bird food.
• Emerald Reaver - Not to be confused with clubbing enthusiast Emerald Raver.
• Ultrasaur - Evolved the really long neck to spy on its neighbors.
• Golakka Crawler - Universally adored by both control decks and ninjas.
• Stubborn Gastropod - Stubbornly pursuing its dream to become Azeroth's fastest animal!
• Fire Fly - Arch nemeses: small children with glass jars.
• Stegodon - Level 40 Tortollan Paladins quest to tame a Stegodon. There are no level 41 Tortollan Paladins.
• Sabretooth Stalker - It's gotten a bit long in the tooth.
• Stormwatcher - Aspiring meteorologist!
• Giant Wasp - Float like a butterfly, sting like a giant wasp!
• Servant of Kalimos - He's doing his best, but his mom thinks that if he had just applied himself in school Kalimos would be working for HIM.
• Tidal Surge - Also good for removing pesky stains.
• Volatile Elemental - Currently in an anger management class with Raging Worgen, Grommash Hellscream, and The Angry Chicken. It isn't helping.
• Envenom Weapon - Like Deadly Poison, but deadlier.
• Lakkari Sacrifice - They asked, “And what must we give in return?” Gul’dan lowered his hood and answered: “Six… cards…”
• Cruel Dinomancer - As that old saying goes: "you don't get into dinomancing to make friends."
• Corrupting Mist - The most terrifying of Un’goro magics is both silent… AND deadly.
• Bloodbloom - Help save mana. Donate blood today!
• Lakkari Felhound - Guaranteed to track tar all over your carpet.
• Feeding Time - True, they're only 1/1s, but they eat as much as most 4/4s!
• Chittering Tunneler - Ear to the ground, he carefully interpreted the chittering noises: “You wanna cast a spell? I wanna cast a spell!”
• Clutchmother Zavas - A bit of a snob: still refuses to drive anything with automatic transmission.
• Tar Lord - Tar Lord, man... legendary monster? Aw, forget it.
• Hemet, Jungle Hunter - The goblin travel agency lost his luggage, but he's still having a great vacation!
• The Voraxx - I am the Voraxx. I speak for the weeds.
• Humongous Razorleaf - Loves goblins. In a light cream sauce.
• Igneous Elemental - We wanted to name him "Ingenious Elemental", but he just wasn't that bright.
• Shimmering Tempest - HATES being summoned for Kirin Tor party lighting.
• Blazecaller - For when a flamecaller just won't do.
• Primordial Drake - Before he became a rap artist.
• Elise the Trailblazer - Reno taught her that blazing her own trail is a lot more fun than following someone else's map.
• Tyrantus - Millennia of evolutionary pressures turned his species into the Faerie Dragons we know today.
• Free From Amber - Bingo! Minion DNA!
• Hallucination - It's the good kind of hallucination.
• Spiritsinger Umbra - She sees the fate of anyone she meets, but it's always the same: dinosaur attack.
• Ozruk - Between you and me, Ozruk is a bit obsessed with his body.
• Grievous Bite - Ooh. I'll have a bite of this, and of this, and of this...
• Jeweled Macaw - It’s not LITERALLY jeweled. The goblins were terribly disappointed.
• Tol'vir Warden - Ferocious in combat… and even more terrifying in pet battles.
• Raptor Hatchling - They’re just baby teeth. Lots and lots of baby teeth.
• Crackling Razormaw - Wasn't clever enough to go AROUND the electric fence.
• Stampede - Many hunters long for the pitter-patter of enormous feet.
• Dinomancy - Anyone can dinomance. Just put your lips together and RAAWWWAARGGGH.
• Swamp King Dred - Swamp King Dred, more like Swamp King Dead, amiright?
• The Marsh Queen - Question: What's scarier, one giant angry dinosaur or 15 smaller vicious ones? Answer: AHHHHHHH THEY FOUND MEEEEEE
• Explore Un'Goro - It turns out cards DO grow on trees!
• Iron Hide - Week 6. I remain covered head to toe with scales. They do not yet realize that I am not a dinosaur.
• Ornery Direhorn - "It's an herbivore. How dangerous can it be?" - Famous last words
• Cornered Sentry - The Draenei are seriously considering cancelling "Bring Your Murderous Pet to Work Day."
• Sudden Genesis - Being hurt can make you another person.
• Tar Creeper - If you won't come to the tar pits, we'll bring them to you!
• Molten Blade - It’s a sword! It’s a knife! It’s a swizzle-stick!
• King Mosh - He's a terror at concerts.
• Fire Plume's Heart - Why does an active volcano need to be defended? To save its ash.
• Primalfin Lookout - Lookout is a self-appointed title that's mostly an excuse to beat things up.
• Hot Spring Guardian - NONE SHALL PASS until at least an hour after eating.
• Awaken the Makers - They keep hitting the Snooze button.
• Primordial Glyph - It's the Ancient Tol'vir symbol for "Whoops!"
• Unite the Murlocs - Form feet and legs! Form arms and body! Oh. Sorry. I was thinking about Mechafin.
• Gluttonous Ooze - Three time winner of the Un'Goro weapon eating contest.
• Molten Reflection - Dang, I'm looking pretty hot!
• Vinecleaver - George and Karl! Thank the Light we found you!
• Spikeridged Steed - What beats cavalry? Dinosaur cavalry.
• Primalfin Champion - Sure, he'll return your stuff. OVER HIS DEAD BODY!
• The Last Kaleidosaur - “Impossible!” exclaimed the Silver Hand Recruit, his eyes filled with fear. Uther shook his head, turning the crystal until it caught the light: “Life finds a way.”
• Meteor - When you absolutely, positively, have to kill all the dinosaurs.
• Spirit Echo - I guess you can say they’re… “soul survivors.”
• Direhorn Hatchling - His mom could beat up your mom.
• Lost in the Jungle - George and Karl were never heard from again.
• Adaptation - Pray for salvation. If that fails, pray for extra horns or bigger teeth.
• Lightfused Stegodon - “Come now, Johnston. I think those horns are quite fetching on you.”
• Lyra the Sunshard - Arise, fair sun, and kill my envious foes. They don't have a legendary as beautiful as you.
• Grant Evolution - spicy

Easiest legend rank with this deck, even vs cancer PW retards