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Quote from TheProgenitor >>

Sorry for double post, but I'm finally ready to put something out. A few cards are missing, but I at least have a direction down for each class. Any and all feedback is appreciated and will be returned!

Shattrath, City of Secrets

Flavor and mechanics:

At first glance, Shattrath appears a perfect city, united in its fight against the Void. But beneath that façade lies a bitter rivalry. The city’s two factions, the devout Aldor and the mystic Scryers, are at war for control. Behind the scenes, allegiants plot, spy, and maneuver against the opposing faction in a perpetual fight for advantage. In Shattrath, secrets are dearer than gold, information a deadly weapon. And while the city schemes against itself, a darker foe lays its own plans...

-New keyword Plan. In the game’s UI, Plan will look just like a mulligan, with the leftmost cards being closer to the top of your deck.

-Secrets. The set will include many cards that interact with Secrets and new Secrets for the 4 classes that have them.

-Information. This expansion will feature cards that give information on and manipulate the hand and deck.

Neutral:

 Druid:

Theme: Choose

Potential wildcard and Unassuming Arbor token:

 

Hunter:

Theme: Secrets/Toolbox

 Mage:

Theme: Card draw/Secrets

Mystic Insight was called Scryer's Insight in Phase I. I know we don't have to use the cards showcased there, but does that mean I can use a changed version of one?

 Paladin:

Theme: Secrets/Buffs?

The plan is to make another Secret since Paladin's Secret pool is trash and use a wildcard to show a non-Secret thing.

Lightwarden Adyen interactions:

According to Plan: Put 2 more random Mage Secrets into the battlefield.

Avenge: Give another +3/+2 buff to a random friendly minion (not necessarily the same one).

Bear Trap: Summon another Bear.

Cat Trick: Summon another Panther.

Concealed Carry: Give your minion 6 more Attack.

Competitive Spirit: Give your minions an additional +1/+1.

Counterspell: No additional effect.

Cheat Death: Add another copy that costs (2) less.

Dart Trap: Shoot another 5 damage at a random enemy (not necessarily the same one).

Duplicate: Add 2 more copies.

Effigy: Summon another random minion of the same Cost (not necessarily the same one).

Evasion: No additional effect.

Explosive Runes: Deal another 6 damage. Excess is still redirected to the enemy hero. This counts as 2 separate instances of damage.

Explosive Trap: Deal 2 more damage to all enemies. This counts as 2 separate instances of damage.

Eye for an Eye: Deal that much damage again. This counts as 2 separate instances of damage.

Freezing Trap: The minion costs an additional (2) more.

Frozen Clone: Add 2 more copies.

Getaway Kodo: Add another copy to your hand.

Hidden Cache: Give another +2/+2 buff to a random minion in your hand (not necessarily the same one).

Hidden Strength: Give your minion an additional +2/+2.

Hidden Wisdom: Draw 2 more cards.

Ice Barrier: Gain 8 more Armor. This counts as 2 instances of Armor gain.

Ice Block: No additional effect.

Mana Bind: Add another copy that costs (0).

Mirror Entity: Summon another copy.

Misdirection: No additional effect.

Noble Sacrifice: Summon another Defender. It doesn't get attacked.

Potion of Polymorph: No additional effect.

Rat Trap: Summon another Rat.

Redemption: Summon another copy with 1 Health.

Repentance: No additional effect.

Sacred Trial:No additional effect.

Snake Trap: Summon 3 more Snakes.

Snipe: Deal 4 more damage. This counts as 2 separate instances of damage.

Spellbender: Summon another 1/3. It doesn't get targeted.

Sudden Betrayal: No additional effect.

Two-Prong Amubush: Deal an additional 3 damage to the minion and to the enemy hero. These count as separate instances of damage.

Vaporize: No additional effect.

Venomstrike Trap: Summon another Cobra.

Wandering Monster: Summon another random 2-Cost (not necessarily the same one). It doesn't get attacked.

 

 Priest:

Theme: Burgle

Potential wildcard:

Ishanah works not only on cards you steal with Thoughtsteal, etc. but also on cards that started in your deck if your opponent also happens to have them.

 Rogue:

Theme: Stealth/Secrets

The plan is to use a wildcard making 2 more Secrets and to have a Stealth-matters Legendary.

 Shaman:

Theme: Self-mill

This idea is especially wild, so I'm anxious to hear what others think.

 Warlock:

Theme: Giving stuff to your opponent

Street Shanker's ability includes minions you summon for your opponent, like Mastermind Sachol. 

 Warrior:

Theme: Tempo at the cost of information

I'm considering dropping Axe Diplomacy.

 Edit: Culled the Neutrals; I thought I needed 10 for some reason

Edit2: Added Warrior stuff

 

 Thanks for the feedback!

Plan seems weird to me as how it function, but I don't believe it doesn't work. It's just a weird mechanic. There are also too little cards in the set, so maybe make more of them?

All flavours seem alright. Though I feel all but Shaman, Warrior and Warlock bring something different in terms of archetypes, though. All the other classes do something we've already seen before. I'm not saying you should change what you got, what you got is not bad at all. Ihat's just how I see it.

Most cards are good too. Here's a few specifics:

• I'm very against meddling with your opponent's deck so easily like with Forceful Dealer. It can be a bit unfair. But, if you end up going with it, it should be an Epic, not common.
• Not a fan of all the Choosing you're giving Druid. All the cards you gave it have Choose One. Diversify it a little bit. Choose One is not an archetype, it's a mechanic.
• Not a fan of According to Plan. You're getting two more secrets for the price of one. And they're random, which is always fun in mage.
• Covert Agent is a bit too unfair. I wouldn't give it permanent Stealth.
• Zul'Taz seems a bit too strong to me.

Quote from TheProgenitor >>

Sorry for double post, but I'm finally ready to put something out. A few cards are missing, but I at least have a direction down for each class. Any and all feedback is appreciated and will be returned!

Shattrath, City of Secrets

Flavor and mechanics:

At first glance, Shattrath appears a perfect city, united in its fight against the Void. But beneath that façade lies a bitter rivalry. The city’s two factions, the devout Aldor and the mystic Scryers, are at war for control. Behind the scenes, allegiants plot, spy, and maneuver against the opposing faction in a perpetual fight for advantage. In Shattrath, secrets are dearer than gold, information a deadly weapon. And while the city schemes against itself, a darker foe lays its own plans...

-New keyword Plan. In the game’s UI, Plan will look just like a mulligan, with the leftmost cards being closer to the top of your deck.

-Secrets. The set will include many cards that interact with Secrets and new Secrets for the 4 classes that have them.

-Information. This expansion will feature cards that give information on and manipulate the hand and deck.

Neutral:

 Druid:

Theme: Choose

Potential wildcard and Unassuming Arbor token:

 

Hunter:

Theme: Secrets/Toolbox

 Mage:

Theme: Card draw/Secrets

Mystic Insight was called Scryer's Insight in Phase I. I know we don't have to use the cards showcased there, but does that mean I can use a changed version of one?

 Paladin:

Theme: Secrets/Buffs?

The plan is to make another Secret since Paladin's Secret pool is trash and use a wildcard to show a non-Secret thing.

Lightwarden Adyen interactions:

According to Plan: Put 2 more random Mage Secrets into the battlefield.

Avenge: Give another +3/+2 buff to a random friendly minion (not necessarily the same one).

Bear Trap: Summon another Bear.

Cat Trick: Summon another Panther.

Concealed Carry: Give your minion 6 more Attack.

Competitive Spirit: Give your minions an additional +1/+1.

Counterspell: No additional effect.

Cheat Death: Add another copy that costs (2) less.

Dart Trap: Shoot another 5 damage at a random enemy (not necessarily the same one).

Duplicate: Add 2 more copies.

Effigy: Summon another random minion of the same Cost (not necessarily the same one).

Evasion: No additional effect.

Explosive Runes: Deal another 6 damage. Excess is still redirected to the enemy hero. This counts as 2 separate instances of damage.

Explosive Trap: Deal 2 more damage to all enemies. This counts as 2 separate instances of damage.

Eye for an Eye: Deal that much damage again. This counts as 2 separate instances of damage.

Freezing Trap: The minion costs an additional (2) more.

Frozen Clone: Add 2 more copies.

Getaway Kodo: Add another copy to your hand.

Hidden Cache: Give another +2/+2 buff to a random minion in your hand (not necessarily the same one).

Hidden Strength: Give your minion an additional +2/+2.

Hidden Wisdom: Draw 2 more cards.

Ice Barrier: Gain 8 more Armor. This counts as 2 instances of Armor gain.

Ice Block: No additional effect.

Mana Bind: Add another copy that costs (0).

Mirror Entity: Summon another copy.

Misdirection: No additional effect.

Noble Sacrifice: Summon another Defender. It doesn't get attacked.

Potion of Polymorph: No additional effect.

Rat Trap: Summon another Rat.

Redemption: Summon another copy with 1 Health.

Repentance: No additional effect.

Sacred Trial:No additional effect.

Snake Trap: Summon 3 more Snakes.

Snipe: Deal 4 more damage. This counts as 2 separate instances of damage.

Spellbender: Summon another 1/3. It doesn't get targeted.

Sudden Betrayal: No additional effect.

Two-Prong Amubush: Deal an additional 3 damage to the minion and to the enemy hero. These count as separate instances of damage.

Vaporize: No additional effect.

Venomstrike Trap: Summon another Cobra.

Wandering Monster: Summon another random 2-Cost (not necessarily the same one). It doesn't get attacked.

 

 Priest:

Theme: Burgle

Potential wildcard:

Ishanah works not only on cards you steal with Thoughtsteal, etc. but also on cards that started in your deck if your opponent also happens to have them.

 Rogue:

Theme: Stealth/Secrets

The plan is to use a wildcard making 2 more Secrets and to have a Stealth-matters Legendary.

 Shaman:

Theme: Self-mill

This idea is especially wild, so I'm anxious to hear what others think.

 Warlock:

Theme: Giving stuff to your opponent

Street Shanker's ability includes minions you summon for your opponent, like Mastermind Sachol. 

 Warrior:

Theme: Tempo at the cost of information

I'm considering dropping Axe Diplomacy.

 Edit: Culled the Neutrals; I thought I needed 10 for some reason

Edit2: Added Warrior stuff

1.  Perhaps this isn't fair to say considering my own attempts to give Hearthstone some breathing room, but I'm concerned that your expansion will bog the game down. Decision-making is always a boon to the strategic side of things, but the game has to take time for such actions to unfold. Plan, Choose One, Discover, etc.; they all pause the game to let you discern information and make choices, and Secrets require their own time, as well. It will be a delicate balance, because too much will upset people who appreciate quicker matches.
2. I feel like Shadow Huntress is too strong, considering how many Secrets a Secret Hunter can (and will) run. Her potential is slow, sure, but that potential seems really high for a 3-mana minion. I would be more comfortable with such an ability on a more expensive minion.
3. (Referring to Mystic Insight) None of the cards you showed in Phase I have to remain as they were 100%. You can certainly change a card's name or text, in minor ways or with a radical overhaul.
4. I'm concerned that some people will see your attempts to make Secret Paladin a thing again and freak out. Mysterious Challenger still gives some players nightmares lol. I'm concerned that MC pushes such an archetype into taboo territory forever :/
5. I despise MIll, in all forms. If I'm being frank, Shaman's "Self-Mill" seems particularly distasteful to me; it's like a combination of Mill and Discard. Mill has never been an archetype Blizzard wants to see thriving, and many people hate Discard. Blizzard seems to have (finally) stopped supporting Discard in favor of taking the Warlock in other directions, so it seems strange to move a different class towards a similar kind of self-destruction :(

Quote from Vilegloom >>

Man, I see some have already started posting. I still have some work to do with mine, but I think I'm headed the right way. 

So, basically, I've changed some cards, others are gone, and Muster was removed as a keyword. Enlist is still here, though.

DRUID

HUNTER

MAGE

PALADIN

Remains unchanged and unfinished. Will think of something first. Basically trying to make it the class that uses Enlist the most.

PRIEST

ROGUE

SHAMAN

WARLOCK

WARRIOR

NEUTRAL

How does Junkwing work?

After the game begins, Junkwing will be destroyed and a prototype (Junkwing 1.0) will be shuffled into your deck.

->->->

Notes:

• I like Twin King Percimonde, even if it's not really about tribe interactions. It does bring somehting cool to the table and, having no card interactions, is pretty different from the other cards in the set.
• Will keep Cap'n Kreed as is. Making it summon Southsea Deckhands is just too dangerous.
• Want to keep one of the two Mage Dragon-Mechs. Probably the rare one. Though, would it be that bad to keep both?

1.  Verdant Wrath should say "Choose One", but you don't have a lot of room left for text.
2. Dragonkiller is weirdly named: it supposedly kills Dragons, but it wants to ally with Dragons to get the +1 Attack. "Dragonclaw" or "Dragon's Claw" might be a more appropriate name :P
3. I'm worried about giving Murlocs to the Hunter. They feel too synergistic with the Hero Power, you know? Face pressure + face pressure.
4. I'm fine with both Dragon-Mechs remaining. You've given a lot of attention to Murlocs, so a little more representation for the others is nice.
5. Junkwing is like a new version of Pyros, stronger but slower. Without ways to acquire the prototypes faster, I wonder if it's too slow.
6. On Your Feet! seems too strong to me. Eternal Servitude is a Rare that costs twice as much to Discover + Revive, and Resurrect is a Rare whose revive is totally random.
7. This version of Swamp Slasher is much more reasonable :)
8. My concerns for Free-for-All remain, regarding how it functions when there are no tribes on the table.

Quote from teknician >>

So I've changed a bunch of cards in some accordance with the feedback I've gotten.

Keyword:


Holidays: A cycle of rare cards that have an 'on your next turn' effect. They're generally cheap and allow you to pull off fun combos. It’s worth noting that the majority of Holidays (aside from Paladin and Priest) stack, so their effects can be doubled-up if you’re willing to invest the mana into them the turn before.

Dual-Tribe minions are a thing, but only to the extent than Nightmare Amalgam did more than one tribe. Essentially something that’s one tribe gets to also be a Pirate (no other extraordinary synergies).

Druid

The Druids of Azeroth are coming together for a midsummer holiday, and their chosen destination is Darkmoon Island! For what else other than Darkmoon Faire! These Druids are constantly having dance parties in Darkmoon, so it's important to get your steps right. For this expansion, minion positioning is the Druid's chief concern.

Crash the Party is kind of similar to Deadly Shot for power level (worse if you want something other than the left or right, and better for having consistent targets), and similar to Crushing Walls for the effect. 
Darkmoon Holiday works well when trading tokens into your opponent's board—you don't mind losing low health minions, as you get a significant buff to their attack against a high-health board. This can also work well if you want to get to a minion that is hiding behind another Taunt minion, as long as you have good choreography.
Party Prowler gets better the more minions you have. He's the extrovert counterpart to the introverted Night Prowler.
Galandria, Mooncaller's effect works like chess; with an even number of minions, the middle two minions get the buff, and with an odd number only one. Play this on your odd board against your opponent's odd board and you'll get a 2 for 1 advantage, at least on the first trade.

Hunter

When vacation season rolls around, the hunt doesn't end. In fact, it just gets a location change. Going from job to job around the islands that make up Azeroth's Great Sea, Rexxar or Alleria go globetrotting to such locations as Zandalar, Booty Bay, and Darnassus to look for work... as bounty hunters. Always looking for the next job, Hunters want to draw on an empty hand, expanding on a mechanic introduced in Blackrock Mountain.

Contract Archer is the encapsulation of a River Crocolisk that found solace with Quick Shot. The exception being that he uses a bow instead of a gun, so he's not quite as deadly.
Booty Bay! The best place to trade in all sorts of legitimate goods, and the best place to look for not-so-legitimate contracts!
Piercing Shots: The most exciting combo with this is Explosive Trap, as it sets up a two-card (activation dependent) board clear. Hunter doesn't exactly have those. Combos well with cards like Explosive Shot or a number of cheaper options that damage more than 1 enemy (almost all will have rotated by this expansion, but there will be more opportunities for it in the expansions following this).
Shandris Feathermoon: You can enable your empty hand-synergies by playing Booty Bay Holiday the turn before Shandris, and then hopefully chaining it so you can get lots of synergy goodness from it. Still, she's a 6 mana 7/7 on an empty hand... Would suck if she got silenced when you do have cards though.

Mage

Jaina's heritage means she's got the sea in her veins. While she's been conjuring Water Elementals in the past, she's looking for something a little bit more exciting for her vacation. So she's gotten into training and controlling gigantic sea monsters.


Abyssal Subjugator is the beefy Fallen Hero that you always wanted. Your opponent will really want to deal with this fast before they get burst down too quick. It's like North Sea Kraken in a way, but with much higher value over time.
Naga Shepherdess just wants to get her flock in its pen. Mage has Beast synergy in this expansion, but it will depend on holding Beasts, not controlling them. And not just holding a beast, but holding a number of beasts. This effect can be pretty powerful when it goes off, but otherwise you have a really poorly statted vanilla minion in your hand.
Sea Monsters is an interesting card. You might look at it and think 'hmm too complicated', but that's not right. There are a number of very good Beasts... It's just that Mage doesn't have any. If you want to introduce tribe synergy via discover into a class that doesn't have it already, this is how you do it folks. That Tundra Rhino might not seem like a sea monster, but then again Deathwing doesn't seem like he'd be encased in amber.
Ultimate Arcana is the Mage treasure. It's not too strong; a two turn setup for spell damage unless you've got some obscene card discounts, and the spell damage minions that exist are either weak or expensive (the best one being Spellshifter, but how can you know when you'll be able to play it?)

Paladin

Paladins like Uther and Arthas are working on their tan. Fun in the sun! Restore your health when you get a tan! Protect yourself with a divine shield sunscreen! And if you're feeling lazy, who better to consult on a tacky fake tan than the bronze dragons?

Sunscreen Guardian: You do my back, I'll do yours.
Tan-aris Holiday: Complaints of underpowered when it was just 'restore your minions to full Health', so now it gets a bit of Ancestral Healing!
Bronze Scallywag: Think of this card in reference to the two to the right of it. Justice By Sunlight offers a lot of ways to buff Light of K'ure after you've equipped it. If you have your Bronze Scallywag in hand, you won't get some of the benefits of his passive trigger by virtue of the cost of the spell (you won't get extra attack from restoring health through lifesteal). But by holding it, you instead give your weapon the sudden buff from giving all those minions divine shield. This is a scary combination, and while it requires some setup could encourage Dragon Control Paladin with recently printed cards like Cathedral Gargoyle.

Priest

Anduin's gone on sabbatical to work with the Sea Priests of Kul'Tiras. Little does he know, they're a bit flayed in the head.

Call of the Deep and Kul'Tiras Holiday synergize to produce a Devour Mind type effect with the side effect that you also get to draw a lot more fun cards, and gather information about what your opponent's next draws will be and how to play around them.
K'thir Corruptor is a sad story of a Sea Priest who listened too closely to the whispers of madness. Damaging spells in Priest aren't the most common, but it includes AOE and cards like Mind Blast or Holy Smite, which could be combo'd with this to get a very dangerous growing threat.
Lord Stormsong is the chief of the Stormsong family that runs part of Kul'Tiras. Unfortunately, he too has been corrupted by eldritch powers and wants to bring corpses up from the depths of the sea.

Rogue

Valeera's the ultimate fun-ruiner. She just wants to freeboot and steal from everybody all the time. Never takes a break! Not even for the summer months.

Bag of Doubloons introduces the Coin Rogue archetype.
Portside Pilferer keeps thief Rogue alive, but no further synergies are introduced for it in this expansion.
Time to Collect encourages you to keep your coins in your hand rather than spending them for combos, but there's no denying that coins are powerful enough on their own!
Cap'n Garvey says another vessel needs your help!... to be boarded and looted. With the Year of  the Gryphon, WANTED! is rotating into standard and Kidnapper is rotating out, so say hello to more coins and more minion removal.
Not just that, Gadgetzan Auctioneer is being rotated out so you don't get to complain too much about this.

Shaman

Thrall's idea of a holiday involves lots of water, lightning, and fish.

Captain Cookie Tokens:

Vash'jir Totem is a simple card that does something shamans like, and will often be instantly removed.
Maelstrom 'Holiday' activates on each Overload instance, not for each crystal overloaded (that would be a bit nuts).
Seafloor Wanderer has the second effect for some interesting reasons. That's what makes it epic. Electra Stormsurge, spell damage, 'whenever you cast a spell' effects all synergize with this card.
Captain Cookie causes chaos! Bad Food revives Volcano, while Good Food acts as its counterpart. While you don't know what your opponent gets, they don't know what you get either. Considering making it "At the end of each turn, give a Cookie's Recipe spell to the current player." This would make the card have more interesting play-around as your opponent would not be so willing to remove it, otherwise they don't get the continued benefit from it and you do.

Warlock

Gul'dan's Gold (Mana Crystals) are a precious commodity and he doesn't want them getting stolen by Pirates! So he destroys them himself (deposits them in BLB, Burning Legion Bank) so he can send his assailants to the Shadow Realm. Gul'dan doesn't take vacation. He works overtime.

Gul'dan's Locket Token:

Not much has changed from the last time I posted these— only mana cost changes and the common has gone from a 2/3 to a 3/3, as the drawback is significantly worse than Flame Imp.

Warrior

Garrosh isn't in the mood for sunbathing or partying. He wants to RAID and do some ROUGH AND TUMBLE.
While he has Pirate support, he also has a fun card displayed where you see how much he wants to prove himself. Summer's Arena grind time for Warrior!

Sunker Mariner: 12 or less Health again! A pretty bad 3 drop on its own, this card excels in the late game as a 4/8 Rush for 3. Value!
Brashtide Lookout: It's a bunch of smushed keywords, but I think it fits Warrior pretty well.
Test Your Might!: The cost on this is debatable, but it's a pseudo-windfury effect and a potential minion buff, and in warrior I'd say it's flavorful enough. Wonder if it could cost 2. Or even be “Your highest attack minion attacks an enemy minion” to give you more choice, although that’s less flavourful.
Gromakk Hookhand: Pretty simple effect, but hard to get lots of value on.

Neutral

Shimmering Riches is actually really good in the new Warlock archetype.
Admiral E'lora literally flips your deck. The bottom is on the top, the top is on the bottom, and your cards are flipped too, so your opponent can see whatever you draw. The upside is that you draw your valuable Treasures first.
Salvager Grizzlowe has a lot of tokens that I haven't made yet, but they'll all be laid out eventually. Works kind of like Kazakus... but with neutral hero cards.

1.  So does Party Prowler max out at +2 Attack for being flanked by two adjacent minions, or +6 Attack with a board of friendly minions on the table? I think it could be clarified with a better phrasing, using Blizzard's "adjacent" or "other (minions)" terminology.
2. I see what you're trying to achieve with Sea Monsters (and what you're trying to avoid), but it just seems rather convoluted and forced :/
3.  While your version looks better, you don't need your own 6/6/6 Infernal token: one already exists in-game, coming from Lord Jaraxxus's Hero Power (Infernal).
4. I know you're looking to do Pirates for your expansion, but...there might be some residual Patches the Pirate Pirate Warrior angst left in some people's hearts that'll work against you. There certainly is for me, which is why it's hard for me to comment on your expansion. The costs you've given to the the cards suggest a slower mid-range Pirate archetype which I appreciate, but the concerns remain.

Quote from CheeseEtc >>

Guys, I need your help again to make a choice. I went with option #2 from my previous post as it had the higher number of votes. However, 9 neutral cards is too few for what I want to make. Basically I ask you to choose between 3 options, 3 times:

#1 - Rings

Option 1 - Simple 2mana common Rings

Option 2 - More expensive, more "complicated" Rings

The Aldor Ring needs to have more Durability. I will change that later.

Option 3 - Legendary Rings

 

Don't pay attention to the infinite durability. If I go this way they would have a limited, albeit large, durability. Unless I go with the leaders that equip them option (see below)

Yes there's one more because I didn't know which one to pick lel. Don't pay attention to missing faction flags.

#2 - Faction leaders

Option 1 - Leader with simple synergistic effects

Option 2 - Leader that equips legendary Rings

The rings are those shown above.

Option 3 - Leaders as hero cards

Again, the rings are the legendary ones.

NOTE: Basic weapons are the 5 weapons from the basic set.

#3 - Rest of the neutral cards

Option 1 - Non-legendary faction minions

(I know Vindicator should say "attacks", I'll correct it if I choose this option)

Option 2 - Non-faction minion that generates Rings

Basically, what I'm asking is what's the best option for each 3 set of cards.

1.  I would choose the 2-mana rings or the Legendary rings. I guess it ultimately depends on your preferred usage: the cheap Commons are more readily accessed for synergy, while the Legendaries are for major highs. I think the 5-mana rings are trying to do both at once, which is harder to take advantage of and harder to balance.
2. I prefer Option 1 for the leaders. Tying them directly to the rings restricts how you can use them; keeping the synergy indirect opens up your options while still allowing for leader-ring combos.
3. I prefer the first option for the remaining Neutral minions, for similar reasons. They don't have to be literally connected to the rings to take advantage of the potential synergies.

Quote from Tomerick88 >>

I've got to a stage where I can share what I've come up with. I've still got 1 neutral and the three wild cards to come up with. Obviously it's a bit late if people aren't hot on the concept but I'd appreciate any balancing tweaks that people would suggest.

Any tokens that aren't shown and aren't explained will be vanilla.

 

To to be more specific about Fate the effect will always occur after x turns even if the minion with it dies.  In the case of a minion with a fate that directly effects it the effect triggers when they are dead but has no effect because the target is dead.

Warrior

The Gelbin card works a bit like the Hunter death knight hero power but with Mechs. it will be explained properly in the submission.

 

 

Rogue

 Paladin

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 Priest

Warlock

 Mage

 Shaman

 Druid

 Hunter

The clock will revive Lockmaw when drawn and draw a card.

 

Neutral

1.  Changing Fate to occur regardless of the minion being alive is an interesting choice: the user is more likely to benefit, but it means people have to keep the effect in mind longer and could make balancing the keyword a lot more difficult. Still, with a cautious hand I think this is the right way to go.
2. Silver Hand Recruiter's art is Uther. Like...it's really blatant lol. Shattered Sun Cleric is Lady Liadrin, but it's not nearly as obvious.
3. It would be shorter and cleaner if Vindicator Boros' text said "Gain +1/+1 for each friendly minion that died this game." That would also open up room for an additional Keyword like Taunt; as it is, a 10-mana large-statted minion without any immediate board presence is a hard sell. Tyrantus comes with some form of protection and yet it's still a bad card, one only fit to be pulled from another source like Spiteful Summoner. If you want to convince people to spend all of their mana and an entire turn on a single minion, I think you need more than just vanilla stats.
4. Madame Butterfly is a good example of the perils of a long Fate. Without some kind of UI reminder, it's entirely on the players to remember something is going to happen 8 turns later. I can see that being a frustrating situation to deal with, and you're allowing a 1-mana minion to hold sway over a battlefield for a very long time. Everything I do has to be done with the knowledge that 8-to-1 turns from now, I'm going to lose everyone.
5. For Lockmaw, you don't "shuffle" a card into your hand heh. You either add the card to your hand or shuffle one into your deck :P
6. Compared to Stormwatcher, I think Forgotten Champion is too good. For only 1-mana more you're getting +1 Attack and Rush, and combining Rush with Windfury is no small thing.
7. Murozond's ability to rearrange cards seems like a pain for the Hearthstone's UI. I think if you nerf Murozond such that it only rearranges three cards, you could use a regular Discover panel; that would be a lot more reasonable.

Following the mega-feedback post above, I have a small update on my Mage and Warrior:

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 Outside of those two classes the rest has remained more-or-less the same. Mostly minor edits like stat-balance or phrasing things differently; I'm like 90-95% done at this point, I'd say.

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@Linkblade91

Thanks for the detailed feedback.  With Fate I had always intended it to work that way but became mindful that it wasn't obvious unless I explicitly stated it.  With regards the lengthy turn problem I intend for there to be a small bubble in the top right that you can click on which displays the pending fates.

 Ah, I might have missed that bit about the UI bubble. That definitely alleviates my concerns regarding the mechanic :) Carry on lol

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Quick sidenote: I have to be honest, the Mage Trial looks even more complicated now. And having a spell card that isn’t a spell? I don’t really know how players are supposed to intuitively understand what that means.

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4. Since the problem Pirates will have already been twice rotated and Patches. edged into the ground, I can’t really see the problem here, especially since there aren’t any particular aggro cards and the low-cost ones are mediocre stats without the effect going off. I suppose just having the word ‘Pirate’ in it triggers memories, but those days are far behind us. Southsea Captain is still the only Pirate buff card that exists without some other heavy and expensive support. Pirate decks would basically be only viable at midrange and higher.

This Mage Trial has been tricky to figure out, and I still don't think I've hit the mark (as your feedback would suggest, obviously). It has been a pain trying to connect the Blood Elves' addiction to magic with something that's not just more of the same for the Mage gameplay-wise. I'm determined to keep that the "story" for the Mage, though, so if you have any suggestions I would be grateful for the help. The Blood Elves had a "Mana Tap" lore power for a while in WoW, but remaining faithful to that would encourage Spell Damage. Not everyone is thrilled with that direction.

Regarding your Pirates, I would say that my anti-Pirate feelings are frankly not fair to you. *shrugs* In general my mind associates Murlocs and Pirates with Aggro and I hate Aggro decks; that's the long and the short of it. Until the connection is severed my resentment remains, even if it's not really rational given the tribe's current situation in Standard.

Edit: What about something like this?

You lose the power to ping with the regular Mage Hero Power, but you gain something very different in return. Because there's no limit on the reduction, the late-game goal of the deck is to kill off a bunch of tokens/weaker minions (playing stuff like Onyxia and Splitting Festeroot, for example) so you can combo cheap Fireballs and/or Pyroblasts together. It's a "Deathrattle OTK" Mage deck, losing the Freeze elements that people hated so much and replacing them with actual board presence. Harder to pull off the full spell combo, but the deck as a whole is (hopefully) more stable and fair.

Might even make Ticking Abomination a playable card lmao

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@linkblade91 Thanks for your feedback! 

Considering your Mage Trial, I personally didn't have a problem with the first version, though I might just be resigned to RNG. Of the alternatives you've put on this page, I think the second one with the new HP is for sure better, though encouraging OTK at all is risky. Both players and Blizzard seem dislike it. Each version has its issues: The token "spells" aren't as interactive since you can just hold on to the Gems until the time is right. With the HP, your opponent can mess with your board and disrupt you, but if they can't, you can OTK with just 4 minions and Archmage Antonidas. That will probably be quite hard to pull off, which is why I prefer that version, but it does have a lot more 30->0 potential.

 And thank you for the return input :)

I think the final Hero Power version is the one I'll be going with. To pull off the infinite Fireball trick, you need Archmage Antonidas on the table, four friendly minions ready to be killed, and a spell you can play. If you can't trade all of the minions into your opponent's board you'll have to kill them yourself, which will eat into your remaining 3-mana (assuming you played Antonidas that turn).

I know the bile for OTK Mage is still present - I feel the hesitation as well - but this should put that combo on a more fair playing field. No Freeze stalling, no Ice Block bullshit; just you and a bunch of Deathrattle/token minions. I'd like to think that this version of the infinite combo is like the Uther of the Ebon Blade victory condition: great if you can pull it off, but not strictly necessary. Having minions on the table means the Mage won't be fully reliant on the combo, so there should be less of a pass/fail quality like the dreaded Quest Mage of old.

This can all be shutdown if your opponent is cleaning the board decently enough...plus you traded away your Hero Power for this opportunity in the first place. And you must maintain a steady diet of friendly minions to eat because of the Burden. The only change I might make is to restore the Hero Power and just let the "your spells cost (1) less for each friendly minion that died that turn" be the Trial's benefit straight-up.

Edit: All of this being said, I'm aware of the hypocrisy: I have reservations for new iterations of stuff like Pirate Warrior, and yet I'm bringing back a kind of Combo Mage lel

While I'm here, just want to remind everyone that we're coming up on one week left! The Submission thread closes 8 days from now, 31/7 at 21:00 UTC. Time to start moving towards something concrete, if you haven't already locked down your mechanics and archetypes! :P

I'll probably submit today/tonight, but I'll still be around to help out if anyone wants to hear my bad opinions heh

I've submitted, so I can trade anxiety over making everything just-right for anxiety over garnering votes lel

Fun Fact: I made a "spell egg" for the Mage to push the Deathrattle archetype, but then we did WCDC 8.03 and @Soulbattle won with their Spellbound Egg. Kind of felt like when an official card reveal steals your Fan Creation thunder lol >_> All well; no big deal, just thought that was an amusing coincidence.

I'm headed to bed; I can provide feedback tomorrow for those interested. Good luck to everyone else + keep on workin'!