Il'gynoth is a fun card that has created many nice HS highlights, but I think he is nothing more than a build-around card for a bad OTK deck (I think this OTK DH has less than 50% WR). And in Soul DH it can give you some extra burst in some games or be a useless 4-drop with bad stats just as often. So tier 1 might be a bit too high. No objection with the other 3 and I expect Sayge will even be tier 1 in wild?
Il'gynoth is a fun card that has created many nice HS highlights, but I think he is nothing more than a build-around card for a bad OTK deck (I think this OTK DH has less than 50% WR). And in Soul DH it can give you some extra burst in some games or be a useless 4-drop with bad stats just as often. So tier 1 might be a bit too high. No objection with the other 3 and I expect Sayge will even be tier 1 in wild?
Thanks. I find it unavoidable to place Il'gynoth in Tier 1, being in a solid 5% of all decks, and being run in several decks with 60%+ winrate. He also has some good future potential, and players will learn to use him better. If the best soul DH hunters versions do not run him, he will be demoted.
As for Sayge in Wild, it depends if the new draw package is better than the old one with Aluneth, but the card is viable for sure!
N'Zoth, God of the Deep and Y'Shaarj, the Defiler are difficult to place correctly in the guide. All the new old goods seem to see much more play than their overall winrates should suggest. The playrate might fall eventually, but the playerbase has cared about other factors than winning games several times previously.
May I suggest that Oblivitron deserves a significant upgrade now that Darkmoon Tonk has been printed and Deathrattle Hunter seems to be doing quite ok with these 2 cards being the ones carrying it? I'd say it deserves to be at least in tier 3, if not tier 2.
May I suggest that Oblivitron deserves a significant upgrade now that Darkmoon Tonk has been printed and Deathrattle Hunter seems to be doing quite ok with these 2 cards being the ones carrying it? I'd say it deserves to be at least in tier 3, if not tier 2.
Sure, Oblivitron does see some more play now, but tier 2 seems pretty far off at this point. Secret hunter got a much more substantial buff this expansion*.
Edit: meant in Wild, as that was the latest update.
Maybe I am a bit biased as my recommendation is based not so much on observation of the current meta as on personal experience. I played some games with a Deathrattle+Secrets Hunter and went 10-5 winning pretty much all the games where I was able to draw (or discover) both Oblivitron and Tonk and often losing those where I wouldn't
Any plans for duels section? (Yep, I know that it is a lot of work). Maybe just mentions of duels for some cards?
C'Thun, the Shattered is one of legendaries that is much better in duels than in standard\wild. It is a solid tier 1 there.
Hi! Unfortunately, I don't have any plans for duels, but adding some notes or icons for cards which are especially powerful there is certainly possible.
All DH legendaries are effected by the incoming nerfs, so take caution when crafting those right now. How impactful the nerfs will be remains to be seen.
Note that only standard cards which are considered good enough for the top 3 tiers are listed in the Wild section, including classic cards. This might be shortened to the top 2 tiers with the next rotation as the list is getting very long.
Isn't Kael'thas Sunstrider a staple in Malygos Druid which, despite not being a tier-1 or tier-2, is still a viable deck in wild (mostly because it destroys Priests...)
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Il'gynoth is a fun card that has created many nice HS highlights, but I think he is nothing more than a build-around card for a bad OTK deck (I think this OTK DH has less than 50% WR). And in Soul DH it can give you some extra burst in some games or be a useless 4-drop with bad stats just as often. So tier 1 might be a bit too high.
No objection with the other 3 and I expect Sayge will even be tier 1 in wild?
Thanks. I find it unavoidable to place Il'gynoth in Tier 1, being in a solid 5% of all decks, and being run in several decks with 60%+ winrate. He also has some good future potential, and players will learn to use him better. If the best soul DH hunters versions do not run him, he will be demoted.
As for Sayge in Wild, it depends if the new draw package is better than the old one with Aluneth, but the card is viable for sure!
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More cards placed in the guide:
Grand Totem Eys'or To tier 2
C'Thun, the Shattered To tier 3
The Nameless One To tier 4
Greybough To tier 4
Kiri, Chosen of Elune To tier 4
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More updates, slowly getting there!
Rinling's Rifle To tier 1
High Exarch Yrel To tier 1
Lothraxion the Redeemed To tier 2
Deck of Lunacy To tier 3
Maxima Blastenheimer To tier 4
Doctor Krastinov Tier 1 to 2
Colossus of the Moon Tier 2 to 3
Feedback appreciated as always!
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Even more updates. This is a pretty major metashakeup!
Soul Mirror Tier 2 to 1
Dragonqueen Alexstrasza Tier 2 to 1
Siamat Tier 2 to 1
Murgur Murgurgle Tier 2 to 1
Veranus Tier 1 to 3
Murozond the Infinite Tier 1 to 3
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Latest batch of updates:
Tenwu of the Red Smoke To tier 2
Tickatus To tier 2
E.T.C., God of Metal To tier 2
Grand Empress Shek'zara To tier 3
Infiltrator Lilian Tier 1 to 2
Mindrender Illucia Tier 1 to 3
Headmaster Kel'Thuzad Tier 2 to 3
Frizz Kindleroost Tier 2 to 3
Bulwark of Azzinoth Tier 4 to 3
N'Zoth, God of the Deep and Y'Shaarj, the Defiler are difficult to place correctly in the guide. All the new old goods seem to see much more play than their overall winrates should suggest. The playrate might fall eventually, but the playerbase has cared about other factors than winning games several times previously.
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Even more updates, all new cards will soon be placed in the guide!
G'huun the Blood God To tier 3
Ringmaster Whatley To tier 3
Zai, the Incredible To tier 3
Swampqueen Hagatha Tier 3 to 4
C'Thun, the Shattered text update
Magtheridon text update
Feedback appreciated as always!
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Inara Stormcrash To tier 1
Sky Gen'ral Kragg Tier 1 to 3
The Amazing Reno Tier 1 to 3
Keeper Stalladris Tier 3 to 4
Bandersmosh Text update
Lord Jaraxxus Text update
Sathrovarr Text update
There are arguments for placing Inara Stormcrash in tier 2 as well, but she seems to a good craft for her users, especially in faster decks.
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Updates for the Wild section:
Lothraxion the Redeemed To tier 1
Sayge, Seer of Darkmoon To tier 1
Open the Waygate Tier 1 to 2
Kanrethad Ebonlocke Tier 1 to 2
Murgur Murgurgle Tier 1 to 2
Zul'jin Tier 2 to 3
Aya Blackpaw Tier 2 to 3
Prince Keleseth Tier 2 to 3
Kathrena Winterwisp Tier 2 to 4
Prince Taldaram Tier 2 to 4
Fandral Staghelm Tier 2 to 4
Inkmaster Solia Tier 3 to 4
Frizz Kindleroost Removed from the Wild section.
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May I suggest that Oblivitron deserves a significant upgrade now that Darkmoon Tonk has been printed and Deathrattle Hunter seems to be doing quite ok with these 2 cards being the ones carrying it? I'd say it deserves to be at least in tier 3, if not tier 2.
Sure, Oblivitron does see some more play now, but tier 2 seems pretty far off at this point. Secret hunter got a much more substantial buff this expansion*.
Edit: meant in Wild, as that was the latest update.
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Maybe I am a bit biased as my recommendation is based not so much on observation of the current meta as on personal experience. I played some games with a Deathrattle+Secrets Hunter and went 10-5 winning pretty much all the games where I was able to draw (or discover) both Oblivitron and Tonk and often losing those where I wouldn't
More cleanups in the Wild section, focussing on the top 2 tiers.
High Priestess Jeklik Tier 2 to 3
Maiev Shadowsong Tier 2 to 3
Unite the Murlocs Tier 2 to 3
Sonya Shadowdancer Tier 3 to 4
Anomalus Tier 4 to 5
Wrathion Text update
Zzeraku the Warped Removed from the Wild section.
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Any plans for duels section? (Yep, I know that it is a lot of work). Maybe just mentions of duels for some cards?
C'Thun, the Shattered is one of legendaries that is much better in duels than in standard\wild. It is a solid tier 1 there.
Hi! Unfortunately, I don't have any plans for duels, but adding some notes or icons for cards which are especially powerful there is certainly possible.
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All new cards have now finally been placed in the guide!
Silas Darkmoon To tier 2
N'Zoth, God of the Deep To tier 2
N'Zoth, God of the Deep To tier 3
Feedback appreciated as always!
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Added some info about the incoming nerfs and did a few updates for the Wild section:
Tickatus To tier 2
High Exarch Yrel To tier 3
The Soularium Text update
Keeper Stalladris Removed from the Wild section.
All DH legendaries are effected by the incoming nerfs, so take caution when crafting those right now. How impactful the nerfs will be remains to be seen.
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Some updates following the nerfs. There should be more incoming:
Instructor Fireheart Tier 2 to 1
Dinotamer Brann Tier 1 to 2
Soulciologist Malicia Tier 1 to 2
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Finally an update! Added expected tiers for the miniset legendaries.
Keywarden Ivory (Expected tier 3-2)
Moonfang (Expected tier 3-2)
Dark Inquisitor Xanesh (Expected tier 4-2)
Envoy Rustwix (Expected tier 4-2)
Also for the wild section:
Aluneth Tier 1 to 2
Kingsbane Tier 2 to 1
Stargazer Luna Tier 2 to 1
Armagedillo Tier 2 to 3
Malygos, Aspect of Magic Tier 1 to 2
SN1P-SN4P 1 to 2
The Lich King Tier 1 to 2
Mindrender Illucia Tier 1 to 2
Murgur Murgurgle Tier 2 to 3
Zixor, Apex Predator Tier 2 to 3
Teron Gorefiend Tier 2 to 3
Clutchmother Zavas Tier 2 to 4
Akama Removed from the Wild section
Kael'thas Sunstrider Removed from the Wild section
Metamorphosis Removed from the Wild section
Reliquary of Souls Removed from the Wild section
Soul Mirror Removed from the Wild section
King Krush Removed from the Wild section
Note that only standard cards which are considered good enough for the top 3 tiers are listed in the Wild section, including classic cards. This might be shortened to the top 2 tiers with the next rotation as the list is getting very long.
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Isn't Kael'thas Sunstrider a staple in Malygos Druid which, despite not being a tier-1 or tier-2, is still a viable deck in wild (mostly because it destroys Priests...)