Deathrattle: Summon a 4/2
Forsaken Lilian that attacks
a random enemy.
She'll get to the bottom of this even if it kills her. Twice!
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|Earthen Ring Farseer||Minion||3||3||3|
|The Black Knight||Minion||4||4||4|
|Defender of Argus||Minion||4||3||3|
|Lord Jaraxxus||Playable Hero||Warlock||9||0||30|
|Illidan Stormrage||Hero||Demon Hunter||0||0||30|
|Demonic Illidan||Hero||Demon Hunter||0||0||30|
|Skullbearer Illidan||Hero||Demon Hunter||0||0||30|
despite this card looking boring here I have found it to be very useful.. definitely not a flashy legendary by any means, but a really serviceable card that can fit any rouge deck
The card is bugged. While I had a 4/2 weapon equipped it attacked my face and instantly killed itself. It probably thinks heroes are minions while weapons are equipped. So not only is this card underwhelming, but also broken
It's not broken or bugged, a weapon is just a fancy way of saying "your hero has +X Attack during your turns for Y attacks" For example, Doomhammer's Windfury is applied to your hero, and using an aoe Battlecry Hero card like Hagatha will cause Overkill weapons to trigger their effects. Weapons are just a display to remind you of what effects you applied to your hero, attack included, so a minion taking damage after attacking something with attack is just the game working as intended, there's a reason why there's an animation with your weapon closing during the enemy turn
What are you talking about? The stealth make almost certain 4 damage in the first form and even if the opponent use a mass removal you get the second form right away hitting his face and + 4 damage in your turn, this card is the control nightmare.
It is a 2 for 1 card in 90% of the time, you can't ask more than that in a 4 manas card.
Maybe you're right. It was just a first impression. Maybe if this is the only deathrattle do you think Vectus would be worth running for 2 more 4/2 attacks?
edit: yes the card is fun and pretty good :)
art of this card is amazing
Poor design in my opinion. I dont know if it’s good but this isn’t what you expect about a legendary card, maybe if it came out some expansions ago but not now.
Having both Deathrattle and Stealth in the same card is very exploitable. It had to be a little underwhelming on a vacuum cause any slightly stronger effect/stats would make it too strong with other cards interactions. Well, at least for Standard we don't have many Deathrattle Rogue support right now, but only time will tell.
If we ever get a Deathrattle archetype not so greedy (like the previous ones) and more aggro/tempo oriented, this card will be very good. Not flashy, but gets de job done. People comparing it with the Reborn 5/2 Stealth are completely off the mark.
Instant inclusion for stealth rogue, can deal 8 dmg to face with backstab after first atk. Legendaries dont need to have crazy effects to be good, just effects that are too strong to be a two-of.
Hm. It's a little boring for a legendary, but I'll just ignore that for a second to talk about its power level.
One thing I'll say is, that 4 damage hitting the face could be quite valuable for an aggressive stealth rogue deck. You hit the face with the first body, it gets removed, and then the second body hits face and you've got 8 damage. Not too shabby. Of course, this will often just suicide itself into a random 2/2 on the board, and you're not gonna feel too great about that. To me, this generally feels like a worse card, though not strictly worse, than Piloted Shredder
This seems really bad.... poor Rogues we need a new deck and this isn't helping.
Wild OTKs like crazy with this
Does the "Forsaken Lilian" have stealth? Not sure if that's even possible since the token attacks, but if it does have stealth, it'd be pretty solid.
Forsaken one doesn't have stealth unfortunately.
It would lose stealth after the attack anyway.
This is the Lilian we should had gotten in when necrium vial was a thing, as of today's hearthstone this is really bad
Ironically if Myra Rotspring had been released now instead of Boomsday it would actually be great in this meta.
I dont get it how this card is a legendary aaand dont think the card is better than goody two shields.
Pretty mediocre by itself, if they have more ways to trigger the deathrattle multiple times in this set could be pretty decent though.
It's ok. Doesn't seem amazing enough to push into standard. 4/2 stealth basically acts like a Shadowbolt in most circumstances, so is the deathrattle worth 1 mana? Well, technically yes, but if it just ends up hitting face then a 2 health minion is pretty easy to deal with for most decks.