It irks me that because during the first week of launch the prices for constructed cards were like 40-50 bucks people still feel that the game is "teh most expensive thing in teh world after gold itself". The last time I checked the price for the most expensive card was 10 dollars! And I'm quite certain the prices have dropped even further after that.
I would guess supply is really high with many ppl cashing out from a dying game, while demand is much lower.
Artifact really looked intriguing to me, but its whole economy is weird, and it was lacking incentives to actually play the game. Also no free way to try it out hurt it a lot imo.
This. With the exception that Artifact is not a dying game, it already has loyal core base that isn't going anywhere but ones who got there because of initial hype are bailing out and want some steam $ for the Christmas sale. And they (huge majority of them) aren't coming back ever.
They also should refund cards when they print tech cards. Why the hell I had no chance to refund all my pirates when they printed freaking Golakka Crawler? Or all dragons when they printed freaking Dragonslayer. My Deathwing clearly became worse!
PS. They also should refund all cards that go wild... I literally can't play them in standard!
I do not care about ranks, but for some reason I'm forced to play against these decks, no matter casual or low ranks.
You don't care about ranks, true... you care about a satisfaction of winning with bad decks and complain that others don't play decks that are worse than yours.
It is fine but I'd rather have an updated dungeon run with few new bosses, new cards included and some starting deck tweaks (like a 1 drop for mages...)
I still fail to understand what was Valve thinking. You need to motivate your players to play. Let's imagine a hypothetical player that enjoys both Hearthstone, MTGa and Artifact. He was very busy for the last few days and had no chance to play any of those games. Now he got an hour or two to relax. What will he choose? Hearthstone and MTGa that have a bunch of unfinished dailies or Artifact were he needs to pay money to play the draft?
For HS to really take a hit, it'll take something truly revolutionary in the genre. Not just another "me too" game that follows the same formula. Something more like how HS was a massive evolution over MGT by going full digital.
Even if hearthstone will somehow become number 2(3,4) it won't die. HOTS is quite alive even if it is obvious that it will never match LoL or Dota2
, god forbid, support the control/steal archetype they have been semi pushing since Burgle,
Value-burgle archetype is meant to be for players that like fooling around with bad decks with huge variance. If they really wanted to support that archertype, they wouldn't print Stolen Steel ever. Even Violet Haze could be an interesting choice if it was reasonably priced. Really, what would it break if it costed 2? Warriors got that but for dragons.
Rogues are blessed by a broken core set. And cursed by it, too....
Every time new mechanic is introduced Rogues gets one of the worst version of that: spirits\echo\spellstones\deathknights (good in some decks with non-standard game plans but as standalone card Valeera is the worst), quests (OK, not every time but that was an accident), jade golems... And yet rogues stay on top.
Nice joke call card videogames e-sports, when is the game who decides who wins, esports are shooters, mobas, rts, sports games, when wins the most skilled players (APM, Reactions, Aim, Good decisions or teamplay) card games doest meet that requeriments.
Go tell that to poker players that was they are doing is not sport. Or tell that to Olympic sailors who have a random element of wind.
Let's compare that to Hearthstone. $70 for 67 prepurchase packs. Say you saved up 5000 gold from quests and arena over the course of Boomsday. That's another 50 packs. So 117. That'll get you about 6 legendaries, including the gifted one, and most of the rares. You've still got a long way to go if you want to get all the legendaries. Still got 17 legendaries to go. Let's be very generous and say you get one in every 25 packs. You've gotta open 425 packs. But let's say 375 and you're able to craft the last two and extra epics from all the dust from so many packs.
All that's gonna cost you an extra $400, for a total of $470 to get the whole expansion. Even if you chop a third off of that it's about the same as Artifact's $300 for every card in an expansion. If you're talking about completing a set Hearthstone is expensive (even more so if you're grinding for gold, spending time instead of money) and you're just plain wrong if you think it's more expensive to do it in Artifact.
Collecting all cards is quite expensive in hearthstone. Collecting all cards from the expansion requires something like 350 packs and this is a hefty sum of money.
But most people aren't interested in full collections. They want decent+ cards. And here comes the difference. From that $300 to get all cards in artifact game majority of price goes to viable cards. In Hearthstone worst legendary and best legendary have the same cost.
And, please, stop this - "F2P is more expensive because you are spending your time" bullshit. This is only true if you are doing something for grinding the gold without having fun and I pity anyone wjo does that, if they have computers with internet access, they can get better hourly rate in $ whenever they live. And it will be a more entertaining way to get packs.
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This. With the exception that Artifact is not a dying game, it already has loyal core base that isn't going anywhere but ones who got there because of initial hype are bailing out and want some steam $ for the Christmas sale. And they (huge majority of them) aren't coming back ever.
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Pay more to popular streamers and promise even larger prize pools for tournaments. Isn't it how you make games popular?
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YES! YES! YES!
They also should refund cards when they print tech cards. Why the hell I had no chance to refund all my pirates when they printed freaking Golakka Crawler? Or all dragons when they printed freaking Dragonslayer. My Deathwing clearly became worse!
PS. They also should refund all cards that go wild... I literally can't play them in standard!
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You don't care about ranks, true... you care about a satisfaction of winning with bad decks and complain that others don't play decks that are worse than yours.
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It is fine but I'd rather have an updated dungeon run with few new bosses, new cards included and some starting deck tweaks (like a 1 drop for mages...)
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I still fail to understand what was Valve thinking. You need to motivate your players to play. Let's imagine a hypothetical player that enjoys both Hearthstone, MTGa and Artifact. He was very busy for the last few days and had no chance to play any of those games. Now he got an hour or two to relax. What will he choose? Hearthstone and MTGa that have a bunch of unfinished dailies or Artifact were he needs to pay money to play the draft?
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Even if hearthstone will somehow become number 2(3,4) it won't die. HOTS is quite alive even if it is obvious that it will never match LoL or Dota2
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Ehm, guys? bad epics\legendaries make the game cheaper, you know? anyone who likes his money should welcome more of them.
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I hope there will be counters for spellhunter, else we can forget about rogues in this meta...
On other hand... maybe it is what is needed to actually get new rogue archetypes.
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Value-burgle archetype is meant to be for players that like fooling around with bad decks with huge variance. If they really wanted to support that archertype, they wouldn't print Stolen Steel ever. Even Violet Haze could be an interesting choice if it was reasonably priced. Really, what would it break if it costed 2? Warriors got that but for dragons.
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Pirate Paladin with 2x2 1 mana weapons is quite fun but obviously weak. 2-3 on rank 10...
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One day, one day they'll introduce a plant tribe with synergies and then this card may find its place... not before.
I am still salty that plant rogue will never be a thing in standard... those Un'goro plants are leaving (
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Rogues are blessed by a broken core set. And cursed by it, too....
Every time new mechanic is introduced Rogues gets one of the worst version of that: spirits\echo\spellstones\deathknights (good in some decks with non-standard game plans but as standalone card Valeera is the worst),
quests(OK, not every time but that was an accident), jade golems... And yet rogues stay on top.2
Go tell that to poker players that was they are doing is not sport. Or tell that to Olympic sailors who have a random element of wind.
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Collecting all cards is quite expensive in hearthstone. Collecting all cards from the expansion requires something like 350 packs and this is a hefty sum of money.
But most people aren't interested in full collections. They want decent+ cards. And here comes the difference. From that $300 to get all cards in artifact game majority of price goes to viable cards. In Hearthstone worst legendary and best legendary have the same cost.
And, please, stop this - "F2P is more expensive because you are spending your time" bullshit. This is only true if you are doing something for grinding the gold without having fun and I pity anyone wjo does that, if they have computers with internet access, they can get better hourly rate in $ whenever they live. And it will be a more entertaining way to get packs.