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Un'goro
Themes: Tribal Minions, Adapt
In ancient times, deep in the jungle, fanatical shamans performed a forbidden ritual, sacrificing creatures of all kinds, to open a portal to another plane. As the ritual was finished, an abomination emerged from the void, a chimeric anomaly, perfectly adapted to everything the nature has to offer.
Adapting Sparkling - Adapts you Hero Power tokens and other 1-Cost minions you Discover or play in your deck.
Spikeshell Defender - More of a control card, it ensures the survival of your Worshipers in order to gather Favor to fuel your late game cards.
Erupting Geyser- A natural cataclysm that whipes out everything that isn't adapted to the harsh conditions of the jungle. Because Meteor was already taken.
Jungle Expedition - This card allows you to Discover a Tribal minion to advance your quest. What lies deep in the jungle?
Tribalfin Wavecrasher - A territorial Murloc. He doesn't like intruders.
Rubyscale Hatchling - 2 Dragons for 1. What a deal. Hinting the Dragon archetype from Frozen Throne.
Chimeric Vision - A powerful card draw that helps you advance you quest and search for powerful minions. Useful in a number of decks.
Primal Shaman - Your main card for the Quest deck. Changes your Hero Power into a more useful version branching the class from the Favor mechanic.
Artemis, the Huntress - Artemis is capable of taming even the wildest creatures. She teaches the art of the hunt to those who have ears to listen, being a wise advisor to the gods and mortals alike.
A value machine, with Tribal synergies.
Frozen Throne
Themes: Dragons, Freeze, Demons
The Frozen Wastes are a dangerous place. One does not simply wander alone in the cold. For our hero, this journey was a new beginning. Three times slain and three times reborn, once by the cold, once by his own weakness and once by being forsaken by his own brethren, the Lich King offered our hero salvation, twisting him into a self sufficient Death Knight. Hyperion adapted to the harsh conditions of Northrend and he is ready to make the gods pay.
Every turn, after using 'The Way of the Scourge' you will be presented with 3 options to choose from based on the situation you are currently in. Every Hero Power works in different scenarios giving the Death Knight more flexibility. Once you discover the Hero Power it is automatically cast. After using the Hero Power it will reset to 'The Way of the Scourge'.
Frosy Friends (Challenge 3) - Support for the Tribal Quest archetype, adding a Murloc, an Elemental and a Dragon to your hand. (Brrrloc, Glacial Shard). Also support for the Freeze archetype.
Draconic Defensive - The reprinted version of the original Breath of Life, this card is a perfect fit in a control Dragon deck.
Permafrost Drake - An ice-breathing Dragon, perfect for a Quest deck.
A Taste of the Frozen Wastes - A glimpse of the Death Knight's power, combining the 3 effects into a flexible card.
Frostguard - A cold-blooded demon with a weakness for ice.
Diamond Dragon - A strong Dragon with an array of defensive options.
Melting Barrage - an unique effect that allows you to remove the Freeze debuff from all minions, mostly in your benefit. Usable as a mild board clear or after a board freeze to allow your minions to attack as normal.
Crystal Fiend - A chaotic Demon bent on freezing everything aroun him.
Ah Puch, the Risen - Fallen from the sky staight into the Frozen Wastes, the God of Death found new subjects to toy with... Dragons. What is more magnificent than raising an army of undead Dragons to conquer the world?
Please read the descriptions and don't make pointless comments. Thank you and have a nice day.
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IceKing: Again, pls less Favor stuff. It's parasitic. The HP is cool, but maybe say "Discover a Path to replace your hero power"? Demonic Bargain has the wrong emblem. Demons in KoFT feels wrong because I can't see your class as particularly demon and this isn't a demon set. The Dragon's Deathrattle thing is kinda cool, but doesn't work with existing Dragon synergy, only works with a few cards, and isn't what Dragons are meant to be. Necrosis is way overcosted. Hatchling doesn't work because if it dies on your opponent's turn, you'd have to Adapt on that turn, which is impossible. Ah Puch seems like such a low upside (maybe even downside) for high favor. Freeze synergy (and Demon synergy) doesn't feel very well thought out. You need more than one card for an archetype.
@Pircival I don't want to sound rude, but you can't expect me to stop using my core mechanic because you think it's parasitic. It's fine as it is. You invest mana into gathering Favor an then get rewarded properly.
The hero power doesn't work that way. The hero power is Way of the Scourge. Whenever you use it you are presented with 3 options. You can use Path of Cold one turn and Path of Solitude the next one. It's not a one time Discover that lasts the whole game. You pay 2 mana to Discover the hero power and instantly use it, then it goes back to Way of the Scourge.
My class was a Demon class from day 1. The class's flavor is praying to gods to earn their Favor. But you can also sell your soul to the Demons and earn their Favor too. My classic set has 3 Demon cards and I said I will bring in more to the table in future expansion to create a unique different archetype, unlike the well known Demon Warlock.
The Dragon synergy has a total of 6 cards in this set only, with 1 in the un'goro and a few in the classic set. The classic dragons are 8-8 and 4-12, very strong stats with a Taunt effect. The whole point of this contest is to create unique cards with unique effects. A Deathrattle Dragon is something never seen before and they fit perfectly in the set. Sindragosa is an undead Dragon and there is a whole cult based around her.
The Ah Puch effect is very strong. Taunting big dragons is a bit upside so I had to balance it with a freeze effect, a frozen wall to block the way.
I already expained the deal with demons. For the Freeze effect, I will try to implement it differently by making a few changes.
If i could have made more than 10 cards, I would have been able to make a lot for the archetypes, but this is not possible. An archetype isn't created in one expansion, it is supported over many to make room for cooler ideas.
Thanks for your feedback but the whole point is trying to balance the cards, not telling me how everything is wrong. I know how my class works and what kind of cards I can work with, Favor and Demons are key mechanics to the class, I can't just forget they exist and do something else.
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@NiRaSt
Demonic Bargain is a card from the classic set. I put it there because it was my 1 mana common spell that hinted at an archetype and I am starting to develop a Demon synergy.
Path of Solitude is ok in my opinion and I really don't want to break the chain of 3 from the hero powers. I tried to balance the 3/3 with the favor effect so it will be on the same level with the other 2 whose effects have an immediate impact, rather than a resource gathering tool. A control deck doesn't really need a 3/3 every turn. Sometimes drawing a card and gaining some armor is more important or using Path of Cold to neutralize a dangerous enemy.
I compared the card to Shield Block which draws a card and gives 5 armor for 3 mana. Draconic Defensive draws a specific card so it should be a little weaker, 8 armor for 3 seems too much. I could have either went with the 2 mana 4 armor, 3 mana 6 armor or 4 mana 8 armor. I decided on the later because the other 2 were too strong, because of the card draw. I checked the word before making the card, it's draconic.
I tried to keep my Favor requirements at 5 for little effects, 10 for stronger effects, like demons, and 15 for the legendaries. The card is designed to fit in a tempo or control deck where favor si pretty easy to gain ( hero powers, both basic and the death knight variant, and from other cards that generate favor). 5 favor is worth 1 mana so the effect on the card, being a frost nova that affects both allies and enemies alike, is worth 10 favor. The flavor of the 2 demon cards is that they dont make a difference between allies and enemies, hitting both with their effects.
I don't really understand what are you trying to point out being wrong with A Taste of the Frozen Wastes. The card is a combined effect of the 3 hero powers from the Death Knight, being a glimpse of the card's power. There are a lot of Freeze effects in the set so it won't be hard to trigger. Also Glacial Shard. I could get rid of the Frozen effect but that is what give the card its flavor. 1 mana is too little for the effect. I could also go with a 3 mana and change the effects from 2 to 3, but i wanted to make the card weaker than the actual hero power effects.
I will change the adapt on Rubyscale Hatchling. Thank you for pointing it out.
Thank you so much for your feedback. I hope you understand some of the choices I made and why I thought they were ok both flavor and balance-wise.
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I made some changes to my KOTFT set. Mainly, I changed the Favor effect of the legendary to create two ways to play the card, as I did with the ones before. As a result, I tweaked some cards to make them work better with the new effect.
Cold, Weak and Lonely
The Frozen Wastes are a dangerous place. One does not simply wander alone in the cold. For our hero, this journey was a new beginning. Three times slain and three times reborn, once by the cold, once by his own weakness and once by being forsaken by his own brethren, the Lich King offered our hero salvation, twisting him into a self sufficient Death Knight. Hyperion adapted to the harsh conditions of Northrend and he is ready to make the gods pay.
Every turn, after using 'The Way of the Scourge' you will be presented with 3 options to chose from based on the situation you are currently in. Every Hero Power works in different scenarios giving the Death Knight more flexibility. The DK can be used in a lot of Control decks, stalling the game and generating Favor. As a result, I will avoid printing more Favor cards, except the gods and maybe 1 or 2 supporting cards for new archetypes.
A combined effect of the 3 Hero Powers give you a glimpse of what's to come if you decide to join the Lich King.
Icy Demons. Brrr
The Demons are here and they want to see the world Freeze, but be careful, they don't discern between ally and enemy. (Synergies with 2 of the DK Hero Powers.)
Dragons of Death
The Dragon archetype interacts with Deathrattles to create a control deck with a lot of survivability and a powerful summon effect.
Draconic Defensive - The infamous Breath of Life is back, cooler than ever.
Ah Puch - The god of death and decay revives your Dragons to serve you once more. The Favor effect allows you to go Full Defense Mode and get back in the game, but with a little downside. Coolest god in the world right?
The Dragon archetype was hinted in Un'Goro and was further developed in the Frozen Throne ( Challenge 3 ).
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I love the new direction. Good job.
I think Grano is too weak. You could buff him a little.
The hero is poisonous while attacking only, you should state that minions attacking it die.
I will give some more feedback later.
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I compared Draconic Defense with Shield Block and that is why I made it a 2 cost, to make it different. The draw effect makes the card playable in only one deck so it should be more powerful. I changed it to a 4 cost so it can have a bigger impact when played.
Servant of Sindragosa and Terrorscale have the same statline and the same effect more or less. I wouldn't call it horrifically weaker as Terrorscale is not a balanced card, leading to a lot of powerful combos with its general Deathrattle trigger. I added 1 attack to make it more "balanced", but the effect is what matters in this case.
Path of Solitude fits perfectly with the effect. My short story puts our hero in a delicate position, being abandoned by its brethren. As the Lich King offers him the Death Knight powers, he is able to summon the dead, so he would never be alone again. The Paths are the hero's weaknesses when he arrives in the Frozen Wastes, turned into strengths as he taps into his Death Knight powers. Same goes for Frailty, giving him armor and Cold, allowing him to use ice and frost as a weapon.
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Thank you very much.
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I have a question for the mods. I got this cool idea for the Kobolds and Catacombs set ( if I make it to the next phase ) where I could play around gorgons turning things into stone. I want to know if I can make a new keyword named Petrify to act as a more thematically fitting Freeze and have a bonus effect to differentiate it from Freeze. Is it possible? I would like to know if it's not so I can think of a different implementaion of the theme.
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Un Goro
About Artemis....This card is aimed to be a finisher in a control deck where you can generate enough favor to activate its effect. An aggro deck won't be able to trigger the charge effect because the cards that generate favor are control oriented, so the card won't pose a problem . I hope it's clear now how it is intended to work.
God cards are very powerful and are designed for a control deck only, which is the main strength of the class. Other archetypes won't be able to use them successfully because of the high favor cost which is attainable only via some control cards.
Aggro doesn't have a place in my class and I intend to leave it that way.
Frozen Throne
Thanks for the advice with the wording of the dk and the spell card, I have changed them and they look better.
Deathrattle Dragon - Like every archetype created, this too will receive support over the next expansions. For now the class has 3 deathrattle dragons and 2 deathrattle triggers. The effect of the legendary is very powerful on its own, so I wanted to make the Favor one a bit control oriented so it won't break the game. You don't have to play only deathrattle dragons to make the deck work, Diamond Dragon is also a strong addition because it has taunt and gives you armor, acting as a strong defense against a lot of decks.
The 3 hero powers are part of the story i'm trying to build. I have polished them a bit to make them more close in strength to each other so you really have a choice. Each one is good in a different scenario. If you need to find a specific card to end the game you can go for Crystal Barrier ( Path of Frailty ) , if you need to trigger a Favor effect but you don't have enough to do it, A New Friend ( Path of Solitude ) is the answer. If you need to deal with a big threat you can Chilling Grasp ( Path of Cold ) it until it dies. I won't change the triple hero power because I think it makes my hero card unique without making it broken.
I wanted to show a couple changes I might make:
Keeping enchantments is how the card is supposed to work, so it can stack all the +1/+1 it gains (as well as other effects). I don't like that the text is now smaller, but I guess it needs to be this way.
While I hate getting rid of the punny name, the minion version makes much more sense from a gameplay perspective.
Thoughts?
For the Gold Elemental I think the first version is better because keeping enchantmesnts the effect is too strong (Lichbane is a very problematic card because of its effect) and the wording of the first version makes it kinda clear to me it will keep the stacking +1/+1 buff.
I think Stitched Nightmare is cool even though I liked the punny name too. I guess some things have to change.
You need at least 4 minions to make the card worth its cost so I think it's pretty balanced.
Thanks for the feedback and I hope I was helpful with mine.
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Initial Post
Cold, Weak and Lonely
The Frozen Wastes are a dangerous place. One does not simply wander alone in the cold. For our hero, this journey was a new beginning. Three times slain and three times reborn, once by the cold, once by his own weakness and once by being forsaken by his own kin, the Lich King offered our hero salvation, twisting him into a self sufficient Death Knight. Hyperion adapted to the harsh conditions of Northrend and he is ready to make the gods pay.
Freeze - Cold Armor - Weakness Favor - Loneliness
Every turn, after using 'Power of the Undying' you will be presented with 3 options to chose from based on the situation you are currently in. Every Hero Power works in different scenarios giving the Death Knight more flexibility. The DK can be used in a lot of Control decks, stalling the game and generating Favor. As a result I will avoid printing more Favor cards, except the god of each expansion and maybe 1 or 2 supporting cards for new archetypes.
A combined effect of the 3 Hero Powers give you a glimpse of what's to come if you decide to join the Lich King.
Icy Demons. Brrr
The Demons are here and they want to see the world Freeze, but be careful, they don't discern between ally and enemy. (Synergies with 2 of the DK Hero Powers.)
Dragons of Death
The Dragon archetype interacts with Armor and Deathrattles to create a control deck with a lot of survivability and a powerful summon effect.
Draconic Defensive - The infamous Breath of Life is back, cooler than ever.
Ah Puch - The god of death and decay revives your Dragons to serve you once more. The Favor effect is a powerful one but the Deathrattles don't have an immediate impact (Shuffle a minion into your deck, Freeze a random minion, Add a random Dragon to your hand - Bone Drake). Coolest god in the world right?
The Dragon archetype was hinted in Un'Goro and was further developed in the Frozen Throne ( Challenge 3 ).
A low damage, high heal card which will get you back in the game in no time ( Challenge 2 )
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Quest No. 1 is a no because I already got it covered. I personally think no 3 is more unique and can be played around in different ways
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Cold, Weak and Lonely
The Frozen Wastes are a dangerous place. One does not simply wander alone in the cold. For our hero, this journey was a new beginning. Three times slain and three times reborn, once by the cold, once by his own weakness and once by being forsaken by his own kin, the Lich King offered our hero salvation, twisting him into a self sufficient Death Knight. Hyperion adapted to the harsh conditions of Northrend and he is ready to make the gods pay.
Freeze - Cold Armor - Weakness Favor - Loneliness
Every turn, after using 'Power of the Undying' you will be presented with 3 options to chose from based on the situation you are currently in. Every Hero Power works in different scenarios giving the Death Knight more flexibility. The DK can be used in a lot of Control decks, stalling the game and generating Favor. As a result I will avoid printing more Favor cards, except the god of each expansion and maybe 1 or 2 supporting cards for new archetypes.
A combined effect of the 3 Hero Powers give you a glimpse of what's to come if you decide to join the Lich King.
Icy Demons. Brrr
The Demons are here and they want to see the world Freeze, but be careful, they don't discern between ally and enemy. (Synergies with 2 of the DK Hero Powers.)
Dragons of Death
The Dragon archetype interacts with Armor and Deathrattles to create a control deck with a lot of survivability and a powerful summon effect.
Draconic Defensive - The infamous Breath of Life is back, cooler than ever.
Ah Puch - The god of death and decay revives your Dragons to serve you once more. The Favor effect is a powerful one but the Deathrattles don't have an immediate impact (Shuffle a minion into your deck, Freeze a random minion, Add a random Dragon to your hand - Bone Drake). Coolest god in the world right?
The Dragon archetype was hinted in Un'Goro and was further developed in the Frozen Throne ( Challenge 3 ).
A low damage, high heal card which will get you back in the game in no time ( Challenge 2 )
This is my Frozen Throne set, I hope you like it. Any feedback is welcomed.
Will work a bit on the art and names of the DK hero powers.
Will change the art of Taste of the Frozen Wastes because I have seen it on NiRaSt's card just now.
EDIT - I will change the numbers on all hero powers to 3 - draw a card, gain 3 armor - freeze a minion, deal 3 damage to it - summon a 3-3 demon, gain favor (3).
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I think the problem is the random minion part. It seems unreliable. Hex, on the other hand, allows you to choose the minion you transform.
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Tribal Quest
In ancient times, deep in the jungle, fanatical shamans performed a forbidden ritual, sacrificing all kinds of creatures, to open a portal to another plane. As the ritual was finished, an abomination emerged from the void, a chimeric anomaly, perfectly adapted to everything the nature has to offer.
Quest Support - There are many things hidden in the jungle, you just need to know how to find them. These cards allow you to advance your quest, either by hunting Tribal minions straight from your deck (Dragons, Beasts, Elementals, Murlocs) or by discovering their hiding places within the jungle (Demons, Pirates, Mechs).
Adapting Spark can be integrated into an Elemental deck.
Tribalfin Wavecrasher fits perfectly into a Quest deck, damaging enemy minions without hurting your own
Erupting Geyser is a late game board clear which enables good trades from your minions to assure dominance over the battlefield.
Deathrattle Dragons
Rubyscale Hatchling starts a Dragon Deathrattle archetype I will develop in KOTFT (Challenge 3)
Favor Control
Spikeshell Defender is a strong control card which protects your Worshipers, helping you develop a board and generate Favor. (Challenge 2)
Artemis is a good way to end the game with four charging raptors, for a total of 8 damage. Or she can help you stall the game with four taunting stegodons, allowing you to further look for a finisher.
And I still didn't work on KOTFT, but I have most of the cards written down.
Feedback is welcomed. Thank you.
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