What the fuck do you mean Post Nerf? Jade Druid wasn't nerfed. Lets be realistic. Innervate was only a Problem in Aggro Druid, it was nice in Jade Druid but wasn't a core part of jade Druids strength. Spreading Plague nerf is completely irrelevant as with the rise of Priest, most Jade Druids cut it anyways.
Aggro Druid will go from Tier S to Tier 1 likely. Jade Druid will still be Tier S with Razakus priest moving up to Tier S due to the other nerfs.
What the fuck do you mean Post Nerf? Jade Druid wasn't nerfed. Lets be realistic. Innervate was only a Problem in Aggro Druid, it was nice in Jade Druid but wasn't a core part of jade Druids strength. Spreading Plague nerf is completely irrelevant as with the rise of Priest, most Jade Druids cut it anyways.
Aggro Druid will go from Tier S to Tier 1 likely. Jade Druid will still be Tier S with Razakus priest moving up to Tier S due to the other nerfs.
Innervate is WAY more relevant than you realize. Spreading Plague wasn't getting cut either.
What the fuck do you mean Post Nerf? Jade Druid wasn't nerfed. Lets be realistic. Innervate was only a Problem in Aggro Druid, it was nice in Jade Druid but wasn't a core part of jade Druids strength. Spreading Plague nerf is completely irrelevant as with the rise of Priest, most Jade Druids cut it anyways.
Aggro Druid will go from Tier S to Tier 1 likely. Jade Druid will still be Tier S with Razakus priest moving up to Tier S due to the other nerfs.
Innervate is WAY more relevant than you realize. Spreading Plague wasn't getting cut either.
Spreading Plague I usually seen as a 1 one-of or none at all, because it is super low impact in the Priest match up which risen rapidly in popularity. I know Innervate was good in Jade Druid, but it was more like a Luxury than anything, Jade Druid is basically the same.
I see people dont play Hearthstone for its original purpose, having fun. playing Jade Druid has to get boring. id get bored after about 3 games of the same shit lol
Man I love how everyone here already has definitive data about a patch that landed a few hours ago. People really are getting extremely efficient at gathering data nowadays. You guys are so efficient with your time that you manage to test out matchups for thousands of games and come to such conclusions in a matter of a few hours. I am only human, so I didn't have time to make anywhere near the required amount of testing needed to make any useful conclusions, but thank you all for being so efficient and doing it so fast and accurately.
(Wonder if the sarcasm is evident enough...)
No, you're going to get a lot of angry responses from people where your sarcasm went straight over their heads.
Need to test more to see if spreading plague and innervate need to be replaced in a certain deck of mine. The nerf should have been make it 1/4 and keep the cost at 5.
Man I love how everyone here already has definitive data about a patch that landed a few hours ago. People really are getting extremely efficient at gathering data nowadays. You guys are so efficient with your time that you manage to test out matchups for thousands of games and come to such conclusions in a matter of a few hours. I am only human, so I didn't have time to make anywhere near the required amount of testing needed to make any useful conclusions, but thank you all for being so efficient and doing it so fast and accurately.
(Wonder if the sarcasm is evident enough...)
It is just obvious common sense, you don't need a huge amount of Data to know that Nerfing a card like Spreading Plague is irrelevant to the Jade Druid archetype when they have good replacements like Moonglade Portal. Innervate nerf will hurt a little, but it is still playable if not replaceable, because the Jade Archetype is still broken and the fundamental problems are still intact.
I see people dont play Hearthstone for its original purpose, having fun. playing Jade Druid has to get boring. id get bored after about 3 games of the same shit lol
What is this fun you speak of?
I must WIN MOAR MATCHEZ WITH UBER 1337 JADE DRUIDZ!!!!1!!!111!!!!one!!!!!
Took out Innervate and one spreading plague. Put in another mire keeper and 2 bonemares to add extra damage. So far the 1 spreading plauge came in handy, and the bonemares.
It is just obvious common sense, you don't need a huge amount of Data to know that Nerfing a card like Spreading Plague is irrelevant to the Jade Druid archetype when they have good replacements like Moonglade Portal. Innervate nerf will hurt a little, but it is still playable if not replaceable, because the Jade Archetype is still broken and the fundamental problems are still intact.
Right, because Spreading Plague and Moonglade Portal are the same card and function in a similar way... My god sometimes reading comments in this forum make me wonder how is it possible that people have been playing this game for a while and don't understand it... Unless you are a new player, at which point I guess it makes sense that you would think that way.
And yeah, clearly huge amounts of data are not needed. Surely Blizzard and the Pro scene of this game are a bunch of dumb idiots for actually bothering to collect huge amounts of data and then actually taking conclusions. Clearly the best way to proceed is to come to the forums and make assumptions based on no data and very little knowledge of this game.
Ha ha ! So funny. I created this thread to find out if people are still playing Innervate. I don't care about if the deck is still strong or not, I just want to know if Innervate or Spreading Plague are still being played. It is funny how people want to tell you how the deck is performing only hours after the nerf (LOL). I just want to know are you still playing Innervate in Jade Druid. LOL.
I see some people saying replace with Mire Keeper. Really? A 0 cost card for a ramp card? Ok.
Or Bonemare. 7 cost card instead of 0 cost card for 2 mana.
Both of these changes with a 6 cost Spreading Plague? I guess aggro was never a problem? I guess UI is going to carry you since you can play it at 6 mana still?
Innervate nerf affected aggro druid the most. Spreading plague nerf affected taunt druid the most. Because of UI, Jade druid don't use Innervate + Gadgetzan combo no more so this nerf didn't hurt so much. You can use mire keepers for ramp. Spreading plague wasnt core card already. I added Moonglade portals and Medivh.
It is just obvious common sense, you don't need a huge amount of Data to know that Nerfing a card like Spreading Plague is irrelevant to the Jade Druid archetype when they have good replacements like Moonglade Portal. Innervate nerf will hurt a little, but it is still playable if not replaceable, because the Jade Archetype is still broken and the fundamental problems are still intact.
Right, because Spreading Plague and Moonglade Portal are the same card and function in a similar way... My god sometimes reading comments in this forum make me wonder how is it possible that people have been playing this game for a while and don't understand it... Unless you are a new player, at which point I guess it makes sense that you would think that way.
And yeah, clearly huge amounts of data are not needed. Surely Blizzard and the Pro scene of this game are a bunch of dumb idiots for actually bothering to collect huge amounts of data and then actually taking conclusions. Clearly the best way to proceed is to come to the forums and make assumptions based on no data and very little knowledge of this game.
Ha ha ! So funny. I created this thread to find out if people are still playing Innervate. I don't care about if the deck is still strong or not, I just want to know if Innervate or Spreading Plague are still being played. It is funny how people want to tell you how the deck is performing only hours after the nerf (LOL). I just want to know are you still playing Innervate in Jade Druid. LOL.
I see some people saying replace with Mire Keeper. Really? A 0 cost card for a ramp card? Ok.
Or Bonemare. 7 cost card instead of 0 cost card for 2 mana.
Both of these changes with a 6 cost Spreading Plague? I guess aggro was never a problem? I guess UI is going to carry you since you can play it at 6 mana still?
But...to be fair, the title of the thread as you typed it is "How is Jade Druid post nerf? What cards would you replace?", not "Are you still playing Innervate?".
And if you click to this thread from the "Recent Discussion" box on the HearthPwn home page, the title actually gets shortened - so it reads "How is Jade Druid post nerf?..." The secondary question gets cut off, which is leading to some confusion I think.
You might find that you get more direct answers to your specific question if you consider changing the title of the thread.
I placed second Mire Keeper and secondJade Spirit (previously I was playing one of)
Now it looks like this and overall gameplay is really not worse then before. I'm also still thinking of changing one jade spirit to some tech choice.
What the fuck do you mean Post Nerf? Jade Druid wasn't nerfed. Lets be realistic. Innervate was only a Problem in Aggro Druid, it was nice in Jade Druid but wasn't a core part of jade Druids strength. Spreading Plague nerf is completely irrelevant as with the rise of Priest, most Jade Druids cut it anyways.
Aggro Druid will go from Tier S to Tier 1 likely. Jade Druid will still be Tier S with Razakus priest moving up to Tier S due to the other nerfs.
I see people dont play Hearthstone for its original purpose, having fun. playing Jade Druid has to get boring. id get bored after about 3 games of the same shit lol
Hearthstone is a game of "copy and pasting"
#nerfbarnes
Need to test more to see if spreading plague and innervate need to be replaced in a certain deck of mine. The nerf should have been make it 1/4 and keep the cost at 5.
replaced innervate with mire keepers and spreading plague is still strong
Yes lets discuss our boring jade druid cause we are skilless tryharders who don't know how to play any other decks.
I played it without innervate and it still kicks arse. Leaving Ultimate Infestation intact was a big mistake by Blizzard.
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Took out Innervate and one spreading plague. Put in another mire keeper and 2 bonemares to add extra damage. So far the 1 spreading plauge came in handy, and the bonemares.
If you are in your first year of playing please read this post.
Dust does not burn a hole in the jar. Be careful what you craft, especially before and right after a rotation.
On a more serious note....
Someone should do some crazy stuff now that we can experiment and run a Jade deck like...
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Looks very strong still.
Personally, I'd rather run Stonehill Defender over Spreading Plague, mostly because of the possible tempo and ability to generate MOAR JADES!
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Innervate nerf affected aggro druid the most. Spreading plague nerf affected taunt druid the most. Because of UI, Jade druid don't use Innervate + Gadgetzan combo no more so this nerf didn't hurt so much. You can use mire keepers for ramp. Spreading plague wasnt core card already. I added Moonglade portals and Medivh.