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Battletag: BonzArt#2636
Region: EU
Trade Only?: Yes. You go first

done

Battletag: Bonzart#2636

Region: EU

Trade only? : Yes, you go first

Done with _verin_

DONE.

Battletag: BonzArt#2636

Region: Eu

Trade only? : yes, you go first

Battletag: BonzArt#2636

Region: EU

Face only?: Yes, face is the place

DONE

Tag: BonzArt#2636

Region: EU

Trade only?: Yes, you go first

Done with Mumi

Quote from Toymachine >>

Quote from BonzArt >>

I am playing hearthstone like one and half year. I opened 40 kobolds packs with my golds and still I can't play any new competitive decks. I dont have already bunch of necessary cards from early expansions. I opened some packs with real money for early expansions but at the same time I crafted some wild cards because I love wild. Some people always says If you play arena 7/24 you can play expensive comp decks, If you grind hard, If you craft wisely, If you be a good boy... Yes, I am playing arena and I am spending my sources smartly, I am trying to be rank 5 every month but dude, It is a CASUAL GAME. I am not a worker working with minimum wage, I am playing game and try to have fun but I have to act like worker because I am not spending enough bucks. I have to be careful about every dust and every gold I spend, even I am not entirely f2p player. Compared to other f2p card games or even any other f2p game, hearthstone is more expensive. For instance, I am playing gwent for 4 months but I have almost entire set and I can play any competitive deck I want.( I am not gwent fanboy and I know, gwent have less cards but still there is no comparison)  You can say "You can delete the game" but after all, I like to play hearthstone.

Sorry for my bed england

 It's not unfair

Quote from CyberWarrior1337 >>

I totally get your point and I agree. Getting like 3/4 legendaries out off 20 is nowhere near being able to really experiment, especially with the high rate of pack fillers. Most of the time there are too many legendaries and/or epics missing which makes a bad feeling.

I am in the same situation with discard warlock.BOught 100 Ungoro packs with money and some with gold, didn‘t get the quest or 2/2 which comes back to hand on discard. I have the queen which receives +1 attack for each discarded card and has lifesteal in gold.

So no discard warlock experimentation for me, becaause the missing cards are too expensive.

And even if I use all dust, maybe it doesn‘t work out and is not fun, then further dust/gold/money went to the trash.

So there are only two options, blizzard sets a more reasonable craft/dissenchamt ratio or they give us more stuff. I would also be fine if packs with money would have a much higher ratio of receiving a legendaries/epics, but right now it is ridicolous how few value you get for 50€ and you can do shit if you are just playing for fun and want to experiment.

Quote from YJHS2000 >>

On behalf of England, I forgive you for your bed.

Quote from TanookiJack >>

So your concern is that by making it more affordable to get legendaries, which are the most costly and difficult to acquire, people would be even more upset about the game being p2w?

That seems very suspect. Anything that allows people to complete their collection or reach for a new deck without having to dust old ones for less money is a good thing. If F2Pers genuuinely have a problem with someone paying $5 per week to get more legendaries (which, mind you, are not even typically tier 1 cards) then they almost certainly will have a problem with that person just buying an additional 40 packs at launch with that same money and having every single common/rare/epic in the expansion from day 1 and out meta-decking them all year round.

Honestly, I think if it were easier to complete the collection, less people would spam boring, uninspired, metadeck garbage because they'd be free of worrying about their precious dust being spent on cards that end up hurting their monthly dust/pack income. That would, in turn, make it easier to play decks that aren't MLGPRO curated, scientifically meta-tested highlander cancerfests, as players who reach their end goal are free to experiment without worrying about their winrate.

Quote from Blue_Banana_whotookthisname >>

Give me statistics. How many cards does Gwent have and how many viable decks exactly can you play?

Quote from Oshari >>

I'm f2p players since beta and while i can stop playing for few month when i get bored i always get back at least for new expansion. My collection is usually shrinking instead of expanding, but i usually manage to get at least 3 meta decks, so it is possible to do that (once i had control warrior, patron warrior, handlock, freeze mage, face hunter and my custom shaman at the same time, which was kinda big investement in dust). Now two fact. Yes, maintaining big collection in hearthstone is costly, but it always is with any card game, no matter if this is physical or digital. And usually free 2 play games are money burners if you want to keep up with everything. But hearthstone so far dodged problem, that you can't compete with anyone because you don't have a cards. There are plenty reasonable cheap decks, both usual suspects like zoo lock and face/midrange hunter and meta decks, which you can craft relatively fast. Also Gadgetzan gave us gift of jades, kabals and goons, which while maybe aren't that loved, they are really good to maintain few decks using same strategy. It should be especially easy for you, as you kickstarted yourself with that 40 Kobolt packs, so you have something to disenchant for sure. But let's be honest, there isn't problem that you or many people like you can't win or get your competitive deck. Problem is that you must have full collection or few most expensive decks because you want them now. And while this isn't maybe bad thing, then let's be honest. This is will never be obtainable without heavy grind or big investement. Like in any f2p game or card game, because they still need to pay for themselves. And i know, people like compare hearthstone to gwent or shadowverse, which are relatively fresh digital card games. But let's compare it in other spectrum. Take Hex, when you must pay for cards, or get them from other players,  Faeria or god forbid Duels of Champions. There wasn't problem with collections until new expansions came. And this really matters, because no matter, how good catch-up system will be, new players still be so far behind, that they will need to burn some money to get all cards, especially if you include wild. That's why we have standard rotation, to keep card pool relatively small.

Quote from CookieFamous >>

I ran two variants of a tempo mage deck from 20 to 13 with 76% win rate. Not the highest ranks, but it goes to show how powerful the deck is  

It has two legendaries, Aluneth and Bloodmage Thalnos and two and four Epics (Primordial Glyph and Deck of Wonders in one of the variants). 

There are more, powerful yet cheap decks like this. I get your point of not having access to all decks, but you could just build one deck you love and run it. Missing a few cards to add later on usually isn’t that bad, even with some legendaries. 

Quote from Rimousqui >>

Man people don't like losing is all I read here. A new expansion just fot out and all I'm playing is 1/3 games i lose but god I like it

Quote from fisguinho >>

i'm completly f2p and all i can say is no the game isnt fair and it will never be, blizzard already gives us free stuff and they are doing it more and more often. 

Meta decks were made BY players, now they had to test it out and tune it abit usually players with a large poll of cards that can do that easily, as a f2p player you got but a handful of choices. 1- craft 1/2 decks you want to play and stick to them for the remaining of the expansion(unless you get lucky on packs) 2-ignore the meta and build your own deck 3-build a cheaper version of the deck you want. Sometimes it won't be possible like machine gun priest needs raza, andwin etc but in some decks its possible like quest warrior and such.

All in all if you think it is unfair, it is but you already get so much from blizzard you should look back at how much they helped you till now.

Actually I played long ago for a short time and

Quote from Ilyanthiel >>

Yes it is unfair...

What you say is true: to play Hearthstone competitevely, you need either money either patience...

In addition, you're a new player and you had yourself the burden of needing the old sets to play wild? That is the exact reason why they created standard: to enable new players to become competitive more easily (and it's still expensive or long)