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Quote from CrovaxTheCursed >>

It's definitely clear to me that Jade Rogue is the best of the three. Druid and Shaman have AOE and heals, but Rogue is much faster at pumping out golems, which seems to trump any AOE and heals throughout the course of the game. Throw in N'Zoth for late game and you're now even better against control and midrange. It's already pretty fair against aggro because Rogue can (finally) match their speed at minion output. If you can't rush them quick enough, you die to lack of heals pure and simple, so that's the downside. Still the most well suited class to run the golem style imo, regardless of lack of heals/taunts. I'm actually very favored against Pirate Warrior with my list, I'll have to upload it soon and change the outdated deck in my sig.

Ben Brode: "Hmm, How could we make Jade Idol balanced? :thinking: Increase it's mana cost along with the size of the golem until it costs 10 mana! nah F it just make it cost 1 mana forever and break the game *evil laughter*

Quote from Ghost7x >>

Ben Brode: "Hmm, How could we make Jade Idol balanced? :thinking: Increase it's mana cost along with the size of the golem until it costs 10 mana! nah F it just make it cost 1 mana forever and break the game *evil laughter*

After LOE I played a few hundred games of Raptor Rogue and had good success with it.   The one thing people got wrong about the deck was try and make it a control deck, when it had to be a fast tempo deck with lots of spells to win.   I see Jade Rogue with a similar model.  Back then Nerubian Egg into Unearthed Raptor was the dream and now Jade Swarmer will fill that role.  The Gang Up, Shadowcaster, Sylvanas Windrunner and other tricks are just too slow. N'Zoth, the Corruptor may be worth throwing in but other than that I would top it out at Aya Blackpaw.

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Quote from Ghost7x >>

Ben Brode: "Hmm, How could we make Jade Idol balanced? :thinking: Increase it's mana cost along with the size of the golem until it costs 10 mana! nah F it just make it cost 1 mana forever and break the game *evil laughter*

Jade Idol is already barely playable, why would you want to nerf it?

Quote from GiantDwarf0 >>

 Because this site is almost exclusively home to people who like greedy control and combo decks? 

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Quote from Ghost7x >>

Ben Brode: "Hmm, How could we make Jade Idol balanced? :thinking: Increase it's mana cost along with the size of the golem until it costs 10 mana! nah F it just make it cost 1 mana forever and break the game *evil laughter*

Jade Idol is already barely playable, why would you want to nerf it?

Quote from brilliant_gnome >>

 

To quote Savjz on his stream: "I like to play slow decks, jade idol is pretty much the end of that".

 

 

Quote from furiousferret >>

After LOE I played a few hundred games of Raptor Rogue and had good success with it.   The one thing people got wrong about the deck was try and make it a control deck, when it had to be a fast tempo deck with lots of spells to win.   I see Jade Rogue with a similar model.  Back then Nerubian Egg into Unearthed Raptor was the dream and now Jade Swarmer will fill that role.  The Gang Up, Shadowcaster, Sylvanas Windrunner and other tricks are just too slow. N'Zoth, the Corruptor may be worth throwing in but other than that I would top it out at Aya Blackpaw.

Quote from TheWamts >>

Quote from brilliant_gnome >>

 

To quote Savjz on his stream: "I like to play slow decks, jade idol is pretty much the end of that".

 

 

 To quote me on the internet: "If you want to be greedy, don't whine when you lose."

Quote from LefticusRighteous >>

Does anyone have a good list? This is my version, but my winrate atm is about 50% in standard (rank 10). I even feel Aya is too slow without Heal, AoE or Ramp so I changed her to an Earthen Ring (so much SMOrk smh). Does the Gang Up version work?

Jade Madness Jade Lotus Rogue Deck by user-15547636 - Dec 7, 2016 View Deck String Export to BBCode Export to Cockatrice Export to MarkDown Export to Html Clone this deck
Minion (20) 1x Bloodmage Thalnos 1x Brann Bronzebeard 1x Sir Finley Mrrgglton 1x Shadowcaster 2x Azure Drake 1x Dark Iron Skulker 2x SI:7 Agent 2x Undercity Huckster 2x Unearthed Raptor 1x Earthen Ring Farseer 2x Jade Spirit 2x Jade Swarmer 2x Swashburglar	Ability (10) 2x Journey Below 2x Backstab 2x Eviscerate 2x Jade Shuriken 2x Shadow Strike
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Quote from LefticusRighteous >>

Does anyone have a good list? This is my version, but my winrate atm is about 50% in standard (rank 10). I even feel Aya is too slow without Heal, AoE or Ramp so I changed her to an Earthen Ring (so much SMOrk smh). Does the Gang Up version work?

Jade Madness Jade Lotus Rogue Deck by user-15547636 - Dec 7, 2016 View Deck String Export to BBCode Export to Cockatrice Export to MarkDown Export to Html Clone this deck
Minion (20) 1x Bloodmage Thalnos 1x Brann Bronzebeard 1x Sir Finley Mrrgglton 1x Shadowcaster 2x Azure Drake 1x Dark Iron Skulker 2x SI:7 Agent 2x Undercity Huckster 2x Unearthed Raptor 1x Earthen Ring Farseer 2x Jade Spirit 2x Jade Swarmer 2x Swashburglar	Ability (10) 2x Journey Below 2x Backstab 2x Eviscerate 2x Jade Shuriken 2x Shadow Strike
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 i would cut farseer and replace him with defender. due to the stickiness of your board you more often than not have targets, plus, since PW doesn't trade, it is quite a bit better for that match up compared to farseer.

same thing for finley. too slow imo and you already have plenty of 1 drops for combo initiators.

Aya is perfect for the deck,, really ups the win rate. she is far from being slow:

the goal is to never lose board, so getting sticky minion+battlecry minion gives enough board presence. she furthers pushes us vs slower match ups like renolock and etc since she deters board clears. i would cut 1 5 drop for her, you don't need 3, 2 are enough.

2 shadowstrikes seem overkill: they really only shine vs dragon priest. vs druid sapping his high cost jades is better, vs renolock sapping his shambler is better, vs shaman sapping his white eyes is better, etc. I personally run 1sap 1 strike, to keep me covered vs priest and shaman.

you need FoK, you lack cycle as it is. in the current meta, i find FoK better than skulker, not that many shamans.

my own nzoth list that i have 60-65% winrate atm is:

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Minion (19) 1x Aya Blackpaw 1x Bloodmage Thalnos 1x Brann Bronzebeard 1x N'Zoth, the Corruptor 1x Xaril, Poisoned Mind 2x Azure Drake 1x Defender of Argus 2x SI:7 Agent 2x Unearthed Raptor 2x Jade Spirit 2x Jade Swarmer 2x Swashburglar 1x Acidic Swamp Ooze	Ability (11) 2x Journey Below 2x Eviscerate 2x Jade Shuriken 2x Backstab 2x Fan of Knives 1x Sap

Quote from LefticusRighteous >>

I was watching a guy from my friend list playing Jade Rogue in Legend, he basically dropped the Swashburglars, the Earthen Ring and the Hucksters for Aya, Loot Hoarders and Mistress of Mixtures. Seemed to do pretty well against Pirate Warrior, Reno's and Jade Druid :p

Quote from furiousferret >>

After LOE I played a few hundred games of Raptor Rogue and had good success with it.   The one thing people got wrong about the deck was try and make it a control deck, when it had to be a fast tempo deck with lots of spells to win.   I see Jade Rogue with a similar model.  Back then Nerubian Egg into Unearthed Raptor was the dream and now Jade Swarmer will fill that role.  The Gang Up, Shadowcaster, Sylvanas Windrunner and other tricks are just too slow. N'Zoth, the Corruptor may be worth throwing in but other than that I would top it out at Aya Blackpaw.

It's not by far the best, but it's pretty decent now for Rogue.

Quote from Infirc >>

Try this list and tell me what you think, it was an easy winstreak for me, destroys Jade druid, blows a hole in Dragon priest's chest and has even match-ups against Mid-range shammans, plus can hold its ground against slower decks like control Warrior thanks to golem cards being annoyingly sticky. and it can also get tempo against pirate Warrior, the only bad match-ups are against hunters which are heavily unfavored, and tempo mage which are slightly unfavored.

 

i cutted all the slow things that do nothing by themselves like Shadowcaster or Brann and play it as a tempo deck.

edit: sorry for not posting it on hearthpwn, it was just way easier to screenshot it xD.

Quote from mimin >>

Quote from Infirc >>

Try this list and tell me what you think, it was an easy winstreak for me, destroys Jade druid, blows a hole in Dragon priest's chest and has even match-ups against Mid-range shammans, plus can hold its ground against slower decks like control Warrior thanks to golem cards being annoyingly sticky. and it can also get tempo against pirate Warrior, the only bad match-ups are against hunters which are heavily unfavored, and tempo mage which are slightly unfavored.

 

i cutted all the slow things that do nothing by themselves like Shadowcaster or Brann and play it as a tempo deck.

edit: sorry for not posting it on hearthpwn, it was just way easier to screenshot it xD.

 how do you deal with pirate warrior?

Quote from Mannerheim >>

 you don't.

I'm sorry, but this deck is just bad. Rogue is bad.

Quote from mimin >>

Quote from Infirc >>

Try this list and tell me what you think, it was an easy winstreak for me, destroys Jade druid, blows a hole in Dragon priest's chest and has even match-ups against Mid-range shammans, plus can hold its ground against slower decks like control Warrior thanks to golem cards being annoyingly sticky. and it can also get tempo against pirate Warrior, the only bad match-ups are against hunters which are heavily unfavored, and tempo mage which are slightly unfavored.

 

i cutted all the slow things that do nothing by themselves like Shadowcaster or Brann and play it as a tempo deck.

edit: sorry for not posting it on hearthpwn, it was just way easier to screenshot it xD.

 how do you deal with pirate warrior?

Quote from Infirc >>

Quote from mimin >>

Quote from Infirc >>

Try this list and tell me what you think, it was an easy winstreak for me, destroys Jade druid, blows a hole in Dragon priest's chest and has even match-ups against Mid-range shammans, plus can hold its ground against slower decks like control Warrior thanks to golem cards being annoyingly sticky. and it can also get tempo against pirate Warrior, the only bad match-ups are against hunters which are heavily unfavored, and tempo mage which are slightly unfavored.

 

i cutted all the slow things that do nothing by themselves like Shadowcaster or Brann and play it as a tempo deck.

edit: sorry for not posting it on hearthpwn, it was just way easier to screenshot it xD.

 how do you deal with pirate warrior?

 you outtempo the deck, mulligan hard for the cheap removals and SI 7 agent. and don't try to save stuff for greedy plays, you'll use shuriken without combo if you need it and you'll use raptor in t3 even if there's nothing to copy, swarmer also removes at least 1 pirate and msot pirate warriors don't really like spending  weapon charges in weaker golems so they'll also double as removal,