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Quote from The_Quicksand >>

Picking Roger should award no packs.

 I only picked Roger because I was looking over OP's shoulder when he picked Roger.

Actually no. :(

The initial 10 pack legendary change in August of 2017 only affects packs from an expansion if you have never opened any packs from that particular expansion before.

If you have opened even 1 single pack from GvG before the mid 2017 changes, you are not guaranteed a legendary in your first 10 packs. Same for any other expansion.

The duplicate legendary change will still work though.

Quote from PerfRoj >>

I gotta say i craft odd paladin just a few days ago using 3500 dust and i'm not even mad of those nerf, it will give a more healtty game. And thks god i didn't actually craft kingsbane instead.

Same. I finally crafted corridor creepers yesterday evening for odd paladin. Played 3 games too. I'm glad to see it die. I almost spent 6k+ dust on making a shudderwock combo deck.

Team 5, here is my feedback for this patch.

1. The timing is very unprofessional! Shadow nerfs (aka indirect nerfs) are very real and hurt player's crafting confidence. Last time nerfs went up I had spent 3k+ dust on cards that I only got to play with for a few weeks. On the other hand, at least I had a few weeks to play with them. It's likely a non-zero amount of players crafted Shudderwock or Kingsbane yesterday. :(

2. Why not schedule nerfs (and expansion releases for that matter) at the beginning of a ranked "season"? How is season 57 of competitive play supposed to be competitive when we've had major meta changes twice in one month?

3. Kudos for actually giving a specific date instead of "in a future update".

4. I like that you are actually willing to lower mana cost for cards to nerf them. I understand it was changed to make Kingsbane more vulnerable to Skulking Geist but I would like to see buffs to worthless cards in the future.

5. No hunter spellstone nerf? I suppose it would be a big shadow nerf to shiny new Zul'jin but it still is problematic. Summoning 1/2/3 wolves instead of 2/3/4 still makes it more playable than rogue, paladin, or warrior's spellstone.

6. Stop nerfing basic/classic cards and just move them to wild. It is pointless to have a set where no cards can be useful lest they get the banhammer.

7. Corporate abuse is a real problem. If someone is hurting you, even if it's your parent company, it's not OK. We know that there have been newsworthy issues with your sibling Team 1 and we sympathize. Have a merry Winter's Veil and be safe! Hopefully you won't have to shake the meta up for loose golds again until the first expansion of Year of the Scorpid in the spring!

They are random out of a unique 4 total. When using your hero power you will always get one that is not currently on the board, but it could be in your hand/deck.

Mojomaster Zihi, and High Priestess Jeklik are NOT performing well, be careful!

When in doubt, listen to SlydE. :)

Quote from alan1231005 >>

anyone?

 So you're looking for crafting advice on the second day of the expansion. Well, there's nothing certain yet.

So let me present you with my worthless legendary tier review based on one day of playing.

Tier 1: Nothing! Never craft things right away. ;)

Tier 2: Jan'alai, the Dragonhawk, Zul'jin, Oondasta, Mojomaster Zihi, and High Priestess Jeklik

These have been performing pretty well. Jan'alai and Zul'jin are probably top contenders for a tier 1 slot. Oondasta and Zihi are higher up than normal due to being neutrals.

Tier 3: Da Undatakah, Captain Hooktusk, Krag'wa, the Frog, High Priest Thekal, Zentimo, War Master Voone, Bwonsamdi, the Dead, Wardruid Loti, Halazzi, the Lynx, and Shirvallah, the Tiger

Many of these will move around in the next few days. Undatakah isn't performing as well as people had hoped (outside of troll Shudderwock memes) but should find decent decks to live in. Hooktusk is doing well with Cannon Barrage but that will probably not last and she may move down tiers soon. Krag'wa will probably join her in moving down. Voone and Bwonsamdi probably have the best chance at moving up a tier.

Tier 4: Gonk, the Raptor, Griftah, Gral, the Shark, Hex Lord Malacrass, Princess Talanji, Akali, the Rhino, and Hakkar, the Soulflayer

Ignore the memes. Gonk is bad and should not be crafted but is fun to play around with. Griftah and Hakkar should really be tier 5 but they have the tiniest bit of utility and they are neutral so they can underperform in any deck you would like. Akali has the best chance of moving up a tier, someone just needs to prove it.

Tier 5: Hir'eek, the Bat

Did you get Hir'eek as your loa? I'm sorry. Even in handbuff decks he's still pretty bad. Perhaps one day when warlock gets their own Tundra Rhino he might be of use. Until then it's sacrifice lots of tempo for a potential huge board that has no immediate impact.

Who will be the first streamer to play this and then the coin?

@FrostyFeetEU, it says "Scorce" on the RR main page.

Giggling nerf is good. The line about initially testing it at 6 mana and then releasing it at 5 mana was sort of stupid but hey, at least it's being addressed now.

Mana Wyrm has always been a problem, but you don't fix it without giving mage something else to compensate for that loss.

Aviana nerf is underhanded and I will rail about it. Fuck you Blizzard for introducing a combo card that overpowers an existing combo card and then nerfing the OLD card to destroy the now overpowered combo.

To put it in terms that Mike Donais would understand, a good version of this nerf would change the Spreading Plague beetles to not attack and Psychmelon to cost what it should cost (8+ mana)

Where are the new crappy classic class cards that they promised us?

Garrosh is for anti-aggro. Boom is for value.

Dead Man's Hand is for winning the fatigue matches. Ideally you don't want to DMH either hero card back into your deck.

My question about this deck is Lich King. Sure it's a great value card, but 2 out of the 8 DK cards destroy the DMH infinite value and you certainly can't just shuffle them in.

Quote from PiAil >>

Prince Valanar - Sees very little play, does anyone know a use for this card?

It saw some play in mill rogue back in the time (in competition with refreshment vendor).

 

Prince 4 was experimented in mill rogue for less than a week when people unanimously agreed that Saronite Chain Gang was simply better. When you have a legendary that is outclassed by a rare from the same set, you really have a problem.

Conditional cards must have a decent advantage to merit playing, and while Keleseth was amazing and Taldaram was useful as a lesser cost Faceless. Valanaar was just meh. Even if you gave him windfury and divine shield, making him a super Corpsetaker, he still wouldn't see play. Prince Valanaar is just bad, and will likely to never have a chance to be useful as more versatile cards like Zilliax are added. If there was ever a justification for tier 6, it would be this.

Aluneth will kill you long before you are able to get any value off of Frost Lich Jaina. I'm assuming that this is like early K&C warlock decks that ran both Rin and Skull. You only play the weapon if you are facing aggro.

The Boomsday Project is about to begin! Personally, it looks to me like there are no surefire day one crafts. The bright side is that everyone gets a free non-spell class legendary (of which there are a few good ones), one or two bonus golden legendaries depending on preorder statuses, and the well loved innervated pity timer with new sets. ;)

I would absolutely recommend not dusting any BDP legends until you are done opening packs. I would also not craft anything until the meta settles down a few weeks or unless you just have too much dust. If you do end up crafting a card that the community said was superawesomeamzing and is later proven to be bad, at least make sure that you get some fun out of it. :)

My prediction for standard meta ratings (FYI, these are just as wrong as everyone else's predictions):

Tier 1

nothing!

Tier 2

Flobbidinous Floop - Think of this as Ixlid or Taldaram. It's good but not great.

Electra Stormsurge - Decent and versatile but won't win the game for you.

The Boomship - Staple in recruit warrior... please be good this meta.

The Soularium - Zoo's Tracking when played early (not turn 1!) and a board refresh when played late. This is guaranteed to put Bloodreaver Gul'dan into your hand so you can discard it at end of turn.

The Storm Bringer - It's like evolve only way more expensive and way more random.

Tier 3

Dr. Boom, Mad Genius - People are way overhyping this. Tempo loss and randomness do not win games.

Floop's Glorious Gloop - This is not a ramp card, but it can be useful in other ways.

Myra Rotspring - There are some decent deathrattles out there. I still don't think the spellstone will work. ;)

Subject 9 - I am going to make this work in hunter! Would be rated higher if she had her helmet on in the card art.

Whizbang the Wonderful - Good card for beginners to learn with but bad to have to craft.

Tier 4

Boomaster Flark - Someone will get this to work, and then realize that 8 hero damage probably isn't worth the combo.

Haringer Celestia - Force your opponent to play a crappy minion or you get a 5/6 next turn.

Kangor's Endless Army - Magnetic mechanics are too clunky for this to be anything more than a hopeful value play.

Luna's Pocket Galaxy - Give up immense tempo in hopes that you will recover later.

Mecha'thun - If you have a control deck that often goes to fatigue, this card can raise your winrates slightly.

Myra's Unstable Element - There's a use for this card. Have fun finding it!

Stargazer Luna - If you can get this to work, you deserve the win.

Zilliax - Magnetic is clunky and costly but if this had windfury it would be Corpsetaker's best friend.

Tier 5

Crystalsmith Kangor - Paladin deserves this for having minions like Tirion and Tarim.

Dr. Morrigan - The worst part is that it goes back into your deck so you get to waste a card draw on it again.

Flark's Boom-Zooka - Draw three minions, randomly deal their damage to enemies, discard them and gain their deathrattles if any.

Zerek, Master Cloner - You're better off just playing Cairne Bloodhoof ... or a Bone Drake

Zerek's Cloning Gallery - If you haven't completed your quest by turn 9, this won't save you.