The ressurection priest seems quite good.. 3 Cards from the adventure which occupy 5 deck slots (Barnes,Priest of the Feast,Onyx Bishop)
Made also am old deck of priest viable again (ressurection priest had a brief experimentation in BRM but wasn't good enough cause of problems with consistancy.)
So is Priest not a joke class anymore? Seems like all they are missing now is a 2 drop.
So glad to see lots of people (especially the pros ;) playing priest again. Amazing that three cards seem to have turned a class around: Priest of the Feast, Onyx Bishop, and (at the core of Ben Brode's "missing priest deck") Resurrect.
Having tinkered around with a few priest variants, I have to day they are a lot of fun to play... and effective.
Deck still suffers from consistency and can get run over by classes that don't care about their value and go face. That being said, it is technically possible to play a priest deck and reach rank 5, long and grindy though it would be. :P
Deck still suffers from consistency and can get run over by classes that don't care about their value and go face. That being said, it is technically possible to play a priest deck and reach rank 5, long and grindy though it would be. :P
This. I tried priest alot lately and when i didnt have pain on 2 and blademaster on 3 i had a hard time against dragon warrior and hunter. Also sometimes the rng isn't on my side and i only res onyx bishop or barnes. But its a fun deck and maby i need to practice it a bit more.(haven't played priest since standart release)
that is what stupid people do, they take a bad card like purify and shout that the class is broken and dead, and pretty much every dumbass goes along just because kripp made a video.
just remember what trump said about dr.boom, that alone should be evidence that these "top players" are hacks
ehhhhh I may be wrong here but I honestly think once people get their fix of Priest and this new deck and it starts getting old it will go away. Its very inconsistent at times and while it would be the ultimate deck in a control heavy meta right now the game seems close to as fast when undertaker hunter/face hunter was the shit and with that the Priest either needs some god hand opening or probably just gets stomped.
Maybe though once all the wings are out the meta changes a little,the deck gets more refined and it ends up being quite good, only time will tell for that we will have to see.
I think there is more priest can do than just resurrection. I mean, i love resurrect priest it's very fun, but i think Purify still needs it's opportunity to show what it can or can't do. I give it the next week to see what kind of decks people come up with and that will provide a more accurate evaluation of it after people try it.
This is my starting point with a deck built around purify and if anyone is willing to try it and give feedback, that would be the tits.
That being said, it is technically possible to play a priest deck and reach rank 5, long and grindy though it would be. :P
It has always been possible, as shown by Zetalot. I think even before Karazhan, any of the top pros could reach legend with priest if they really tried. But they all know it's the least consistent class (and it still is, even with Karazhan).
People were babyraging because priest didn't get an overpowered two drop that could make zoo priest possible. He might have been the worst class in the last expansion but it was not by far, Paladin was just as bad. The new Priest cards are actually decent and people were complaining about it because it was the "cool" thing to do.
People were babyraging because priest didn't get an overpowered two drop that could make zoo priest possible. He might have been the worst class in the last expansion but it was not by far, Paladin was just as bad. The new Priest cards are actually decent and people were complaining about it because it was the "cool" thing to do.
I'm not sure you understand how zoo decks work if you think a single 2 drop could make "zoo priest" possible. The class needs to consistently have a turn 1 play before that's even a remote possibility, and all priest has T1 are twilight welp and northshire cleric, maybe abusive sergeant in a zoo style deck could slot in. In the 2 drop slot you would have wyrmrest agent and "new 2 drop." Curator isn't good enough for zoo.
The one drop slot being quota'd is a stretch, the 2 drop slot definitely wouldn't make it. Not to mention priest has no good form of card draw other than cleric to sustain a tempo zoo deck.
Priest isn't dead, but it's not good either. Like always, it suffers from consistency issues. This expansion won't fix that, neither for dragon priest nor control/Rez priest.
So as everyone else, you think that the solution is giving the class tempo cards. Congrats, you have the same mentality that blizzard has and the game has become shit because of it. Intead of giving classes tempo cards, making almost every match based on having 1-2-3 drops in the right turns, we should instead ask for better board clears, better healingand defensive cards, which would open a whole bunch of opportunities of cool decks to compete. But yea, lets cry because a reactive class doesn't have 1-2-3 solid drops like the fucking worst meta ever.
Priest is still a joke class and anyone that thinks otherwise is a fool. Five classes are far more consistent than it is (mage, warrior, druid, warlock, shaman) and rogue amd hunter have far better tools and more playstyle options that are actually viable. Heck, paladin got better with this last wing than priest did, and all it really got was Curator.
When there are nine classes and you are the ninth best class...you can't really be taken seriously.
The thing about Priest is that its not a shit class. It's just shit in this meta. But if this were a control meta, they would be so good. For example, they have one of the best basic set. It's just that it's way too slow. Take Paladin. They have Consecration for four mana they can wipe a Zoolock's board clean. And Priest has a five mana Consecration with a 1 mana Aoe heal. Yet, Priest and Paladin have a hard time beating Zoo because Zoo keeps shitting on them by rebuilding a board. Priest which has more AOE like Circle-Auchenai, Excavated Evil, and Shadow Word: Horror and even runs Doomsayer and Wild Pyro at times can't beat Zoo any better than Paladin can. Zoo lock is just op and unless the meta changes, priest will keep getting shitted on by zoo, aggro, midrange, everything except control. So the real question to ask is how do you make Priest's meta better? Make Paladin stronger, Zoo weaker. This way Priest can be the counter to Paladin and yet not have Zoo be a weakness. But Warrior can remain untouched as it keeps Priest in check and Priest keeps Paladin in check. And Paladin keeps Warrior in check.
People were babyraging because priest didn't get an overpowered two drop that could make zoo priest possible. He might have been the worst class in the last expansion but it was not by far, Paladin was just as bad. The new Priest cards are actually decent and people were complaining about it because it was the "cool" thing to do.
FWIW - Paladin had the fourth-best win-rate among classes during the Whispers meta-game, according to Hearthstats. Warrior was fifth. Community perception is often misleading - for the most part, community leaders and content providers don't base their "state of the game" sermons on data. I imagine most of them are fuelled by twitch-bloated egos. Presumably, over two-thirds of the audience following Kripp, et al, are C-students or worse, who get boners whenever Kripp says "Blizzard is fucking nuts." Kibler, and a few others, understood how good Feast and Bishop would be - but he gets about one-tenth as many youtube views as the big boys. It seems entirely likely that a spell-based Priest deck will be a viable Tier 2 deck, which good players will be able to pilot quite successfully.
The thing about Priest is that its not a shit class. It's just shit in this meta. But if this were a control meta, they would be so good. For example, they have one of the best basic set. It's just that it's way too slow. Take Paladin. They have Consecration for four mana they can wipe a Zoolock's board clean. And Priest has a five mana Consecration with a 1 mana Aoe heal. Yet, Priest and Paladin have a hard time beating Zoo because Zoo keeps shitting on them by rebuilding a board. Priest which has more AOE like Circle-Auchenai, Excavated Evil, and Shadow Word: Horror and even runs Doomsayer and Wild Pyro at times can't beat Zoo any better than Paladin can. Zoo lock is just op and unless the meta changes, priest will keep getting shitted on by zoo, aggro, midrange, everything except control. So the real question to ask is how do you make Priest's meta better? Make Paladin stronger, Zoo weaker. This way Priest can be the counter to Paladin and yet not have Zoo be a weakness. But Warrior can remain untouched as it keeps Priest in check and Priest keeps Paladin in check. And Paladin keeps Warrior in check.
I agree with this.... No matter how much efforts they try to improve classes with control decks (Warrior/Priest/Paladin/Rogue) in the future, aggro will always win unless they stop giving good (or even decently) powerful cards to Hunter, Zoolock, and Aggro Shaman...
So as everyone else, you think that the solution is giving the class tempo cards. Congrats, you have the same mentality that blizzard has and the game has become shit because of it. Intead of giving classes tempo cards, making almost every match based on having 1-2-3 drops in the right turns, we should instead ask for better board clears, better healingand defensive cards, which would open a whole bunch of opportunities of cool decks to compete. But yea, lets cry because a reactive class doesn't have 1-2-3 solid drops like the fucking worst meta ever.
While Priest has finally caught up to the other classes in terms of value (and surpassed Aggro Shaman + Zoolock), it's still a very reactive class atm, which means it (likely) needs to have one of two things: 1) more tempo! This makes it less reactive, and no longer needs as much value. 2) more value! This will allow it to contest aggressive decks and eventually take over the game.
You seem to be in favor of option 2), and I certainly agree. However, if you give a class all value and no tempo, they will only ever be able to play control, and very occasionally midrange. So while I agree that 'the solution' is not to give on-curve tempo cards left and right, Priest should have something of the sort, just so that a more tempo-oriented Priest is possible. Maybe not tier 1 (or even tier 2 or 3), but possible. I think it'd add a bit more diversity to Priest.
Today in my free brawl pack I got Barongeddon, then I had a cup of fresh green tea. As a result of that, I think Priest is OP because my keyboard is not a mechanical one. I hope Blizzard will address this issue.
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The ressurection priest seems quite good.. 3 Cards from the adventure which occupy 5 deck slots (Barnes,Priest of the Feast,Onyx Bishop)
Made also am old deck of priest viable again (ressurection priest had a brief experimentation in BRM but wasn't good enough cause of problems with consistancy.)
So is Priest not a joke class anymore? Seems like all they are missing now is a 2 drop.
So glad to see lots of people (especially the pros ;) playing priest again. Amazing that three cards seem to have turned a class around: Priest of the Feast, Onyx Bishop, and (at the core of Ben Brode's "missing priest deck") Resurrect.
Having tinkered around with a few priest variants, I have to day they are a lot of fun to play... and effective.
Deck still suffers from consistency and can get run over by classes that don't care about their value and go face. That being said, it is technically possible to play a priest deck and reach rank 5, long and grindy though it would be. :P
Its still to slow against anything aggro. Pretty much no early aoe removal.
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that is what stupid people do, they take a bad card like purify and shout that the class is broken and dead, and pretty much every dumbass goes along just because kripp made a video.
just remember what trump said about dr.boom, that alone should be evidence that these "top players" are hacks
Priest is one lighbomb away from being a solid tier 2 class in standard.
Release the Kraken!
We didn't know how the Boom Bots really worked though, so I can forgive people underestimating Dr. Boom.
A glorious bundle of salt.
ehhhhh I may be wrong here but I honestly think once people get their fix of Priest and this new deck and it starts getting old it will go away. Its very inconsistent at times and while it would be the ultimate deck in a control heavy meta right now the game seems close to as fast when undertaker hunter/face hunter was the shit and with that the Priest either needs some god hand opening or probably just gets stomped.
Maybe though once all the wings are out the meta changes a little,the deck gets more refined and it ends up being quite good, only time will tell for that we will have to see.
I think there is more priest can do than just resurrection. I mean, i love resurrect priest it's very fun, but i think Purify still needs it's opportunity to show what it can or can't do. I give it the next week to see what kind of decks people come up with and that will provide a more accurate evaluation of it after people try it.
This is my starting point with a deck built around purify and if anyone is willing to try it and give feedback, that would be the tits.
I am hoping karazhan can actually make more than one new priest deck viable.
People were babyraging because priest didn't get an overpowered two drop that could make zoo priest possible. He might have been the worst class in the last expansion but it was not by far, Paladin was just as bad. The new Priest cards are actually decent and people were complaining about it because it was the "cool" thing to do.
Eh if you were playing HS before Standard or just at least a year ago, Priest was never a joke class...
So sad that the new players consider this class a joke as a whole...
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So as everyone else, you think that the solution is giving the class tempo cards. Congrats, you have the same mentality that blizzard has and the game has become shit because of it. Intead of giving classes tempo cards, making almost every match based on having 1-2-3 drops in the right turns, we should instead ask for better board clears, better healingand defensive cards, which would open a whole bunch of opportunities of cool decks to compete. But yea, lets cry because a reactive class doesn't have 1-2-3 solid drops like the fucking worst meta ever.
Priest is still a joke class and anyone that thinks otherwise is a fool. Five classes are far more consistent than it is (mage, warrior, druid, warlock, shaman) and rogue amd hunter have far better tools and more playstyle options that are actually viable. Heck, paladin got better with this last wing than priest did, and all it really got was Curator.
When there are nine classes and you are the ninth best class...you can't really be taken seriously.
The thing about Priest is that its not a shit class. It's just shit in this meta. But if this were a control meta, they would be so good. For example, they have one of the best basic set. It's just that it's way too slow. Take Paladin. They have Consecration for four mana they can wipe a Zoolock's board clean. And Priest has a five mana Consecration with a 1 mana Aoe heal. Yet, Priest and Paladin have a hard time beating Zoo because Zoo keeps shitting on them by rebuilding a board. Priest which has more AOE like Circle-Auchenai, Excavated Evil, and Shadow Word: Horror and even runs Doomsayer and Wild Pyro at times can't beat Zoo any better than Paladin can. Zoo lock is just op and unless the meta changes, priest will keep getting shitted on by zoo, aggro, midrange, everything except control. So the real question to ask is how do you make Priest's meta better? Make Paladin stronger, Zoo weaker. This way Priest can be the counter to Paladin and yet not have Zoo be a weakness. But Warrior can remain untouched as it keeps Priest in check and Priest keeps Paladin in check. And Paladin keeps Warrior in check.
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