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Hey guys, have some dust to spend.

I have almost all staples and tech legs, but some of the ones I would like to have, in decrecent order, are: Edwin, Edric (since I saw that it is having some play), Saarad, Leeroy, Gormok (just for testing purposes), Rhonin, The Mistcaller (because it seems fun haha), Sneeds.

Also lacking some epics like Ancestor Call and Far Sight to play maly shaman, and would love to get the murlocs in order to be able to play for funzies with the new cards of the expansion.

Which are your thoughts about?

Thanks

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Quote from sudajalem >>

Hey guys, have some dust to spend.

I have almost all staples and tech legs, but some of the ones I would like to have, in decrecent order, are: Edwin, Edric (since I saw that it is having some play), Saarad, Leeroy, Gormok (just for testing purposes), Rhonin, The Mistcaller (because it seems fun haha), Sneeds.

Also lacking some epics like Ancestor Call and Far Sight to play maly shaman, and would love to get the murlocs in order to be able to play for funzies with the new cards of the expansion.

Which are your thoughts about?

Thanks

 Wouldn't recommend craftkng Gormok, it is too hard to trigger the battlecry and the thing is that often when the battlecry is triggered, it means that you have expanded to many resources into it to make 4 damage worthwhile anyway. If you can get it to go off without going out of your way consistently it would be an amazing card but it is just simple to inconsistent. Imo go for edwin, saraad, sneeds or the mistcaller, but i am biased to fun cards so my opinions is probably useless

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Edwin and saraad are actually competitive cards whereas needs is just fr RNG fun and mist caller is a fun card but not a good card (unless you play unstable portal turn 2 and get him for turn 3)

When was the last time the top post was edited? There are a few really questionable entries in there.

Strongest - Expert (shouldn't that be Classic?)

* Malygos: Popular from time to time, but not used in any top tier deck at the moment. Malygos Shaman and Warlock have fallen out of favor, some dragon priests run him, and a few fringe rogues and hunters. Plus one of the Kibler Mage deck. Belongs in the second category.

* Thalnos: Used in some freeze mages and oil rogue, but all of these work without him. Second category.

Strongest - GvG

* Vol'Jin: Great card, but the strongest priest deck right now is dragon priest, and he's optional there. Second category.

Strongest - TGT

* Chillmaw: Great in dragon decks, but not a staple.

* Gormok: You're joking, right? Borderline disenchant. When was the last time you saw him? At least mention Zoolock, that's the only deck where he's useful. (But Zoo itself isn't top tier right now)

Tech legendaries - Classic

* There really needs to be a split here. Baron Geddon, Harrison Jones and Ragnaros see competitive play, the others don't. Al'Akir, Cenarius and Deathwing are extremely rare on ladder.

Tech - GvG

* Toshley should mention the Antonidas combo, Blingtron should mention Harrison.

Tech - TGT

* Eadric, Mistcaller, Dreadscale: Really? There may have been some optimism about these initially, but turns out they are not worth it. Varian and Rhonin, yes.

* Saraad: If the above are the base line, he doesn't belong here - he can be used in a lot more decks than just Tempo Mage, for example control warrior and even druid.

DIsenchant - Classic

* Mukla: Used in some Aggro Paladin decks

* Velen: Used for Priest OTK (hey, if you count Gormok as competitive)

* There are a few here that can be useful until you pull better cards: Onyxia (with Bloodlust / Savage Roar), Greenskin, The Beast (no really...)

Disenchant - GvG

* Troggzor: Can be used in control decks

* Iron Juggernaut: Mech or Fatigue Warrior (seriously, this one is underrated)

* Foe Reaper, Sneeds, Mimiron: If you disenchant these you'll miss a chance for fun decks later

Disenchant - TGT

* Aviana: a bit early to totally dismiss her

* Paletress: WTF? Can absolutely be used in Control or Dragon Priest

* Fjola Lightbane, Eydis Darkbane: Used in Gnimsh Druid, and experimental LOE Djinni decks. If you disenchanted these, you'll regret now.

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Does anyone have any experience with Illidan Stormrage, in idk, a Demon Warlock? If he's useless I can use his 400 dust.

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Bloodmage Thalnos Mal'Ganis Chillmaw

 

What to Craft out of these 3, since if i am correct these are the only "useful" Legendaries that i dont have in my Collection to this Date.

 

I know its hard to expect the Meta / Ladder Decks with full LoE release, but what would be the best picks out of these 3 ?

Bloodmage Thalnos is the only missing card to finish the Freeze Mage im playing atm but im doing quite fine without him and i wont see the impact beeing gamechanging enough like it was when i crafted Archmage Antonidas for the Deck.

 

Mal'Ganis is really strong as far as i can tell, but i dont see myself lots of Demon Handlocks, yet Handlocks alone, so this Decks isnt considered a good meta Deck but it could change with full LoE release.

 

Chillmaw was really amazing against Patron Decks, but since its nerfed and doesnt need that much anti Tech anymore i guess Dragon Decks work quite fine without him. Even tho it is still a really good Card to include into Dragon Decks.

Im dont really know what to craft out of these 3, or maybe someone could suggest an other card that im missing and that could be included in a Deck that will be good for grinding Legend after Full LoE release.

Hope to hear some opinions on this Topic

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Bloodmage Thalnos Mal'Ganis Chillmaw

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Bloodmage Thalnos Mal'Ganis Chillmaw

Thalnos is mainly deck cycle, a glorified Loot Hoarder. There are very few situations when his spell damage really makes a difference, mainly in combination with Fan of Knives and Arcane Blast.

Anyway, the question here is really what class / deck you are planning to play most.

Rogue / Mage: Thalnos

Warlock: Mal'Ganis

Dragon Priest / Warrior: Chillmaw

There's no point in crafting, say, Chillmaw over Thalnos if you're not planning to go dragon a lot. Besides, I think the top post of this thread is outdated, none of the 3 you mentioned is really that critical.

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Bloodmage Thalnos Mal'Ganis Chillmaw

Thalnos is mainly deck cycle, a glorified Loot Hoarder. There are very few situations when his spell damage really makes a difference, mainly in combination with Fan of Knives and Arcane Blast.

Anyway, the question here is really what class / deck you are planning to play most.

Rogue / Mage: Thalnos

Warlock: Mal'Ganis

Dragon Priest / Warrior: Chillmaw

There's no point in crafting, say, Chillmaw over Thalnos if you're not planning to go dragon a lot. Besides, I think the top post of this thread is outdated, none of the 3 you mentioned is really that critical.

 Uh, all three of them are absolutely necessary for the decks they belong in, with the possible exception of Chillmaw. You can't play Demonlock at all without Mal'Ganis and Thalnos is way stronger than you think in Freeze and Oil. 

Legendary tier guide **updated**

Pally -Tirion

Mage - archmage , bloodmage

Warlock - mal ganis, lord jaraxxus

Druid - ....

Rogue - .... bloodmage

Warrior - Grommash, barongeddon

Hunter - ...

Shaman - al akir

Priest - vol jin

 Sylvanas, emperor Thaurissan , ragnaros  , dr. Boom , alextrasza,  ysera. If you have these you can make almost every good deck

All tier 1 legendaries, everything else is tier 2 or worse in this meta.

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Bloodmage Thalnos Mal'Ganis Chillmaw

Thalnos is mainly deck cycle, a glorified Loot Hoarder. There are very few situations when his spell damage really makes a difference, mainly in combination with Fan of Knives and Arcane Blast.

Anyway, the question here is really what class / deck you are planning to play most.

Rogue / Mage: Thalnos

Warlock: Mal'Ganis

Dragon Priest / Warrior: Chillmaw

There's no point in crafting, say, Chillmaw over Thalnos if you're not planning to go dragon a lot. Besides, I think the top post of this thread is outdated, none of the 3 you mentioned is really that critical.

 Uh, all three of them are absolutely necessary for the decks they belong in, with the possible exception of Chillmaw. You can't play Demonlock at all without Mal'Ganis and Thalnos is way stronger than you think in Freeze and Oil. 

 Just randomly picking decks off Hearthpwn (first page of each class):

* Handlock without Mal'Ganis

* Freeze Mage without Thalnos

* Dragon Priest without Chillmaw

I'm not saying that these are the best versions of each deck, but it sure is possible to build these decks without the mentioned cards.

 

No, Al' Akir is not really necessary In Shaman, nor I(strictly speaking) Geddon and Vol'jin in Warrior and Priest. Useful, yes, but not deck defining like Antonidas, Jaraxxus, Grom or Tyrion. Same case for Thalnos as well (in Mage - in Rogue the combination of spell damage bonus & card draw in one card is indeed crucial, possibly more than Mage).

Generally, I would also say that your description over-simplifies things since it overlooks quite a few important legendaries and leaves out others in a grand "tier 2 or below" category which doesn't differentiate them further.

There was a recent thread in the official HS forum which had a pretty good tier classification, and after tweaking it quite a bit, it's the one I am using myself. It doesn't include the new legendaries of the expansion, but I'll add them all once it's fully released. If anyone is interested, I will post it in a new thread.

Hey guys, 

which to choose for my next legendary, i play all classes almost equally. Any tips would be great, i can sadly only craft one

Bloodmage Thalnos for Oil Rogue

Vol’Jin Confessor Paletress Chillmaw for Priest

Eydis Darkbanefor Random deck

Al’Akir the Windlord The Mistcaller

These are the legendaries i am considering, the other ones I already have

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Hey guys, 

which to choose for my next legendary, i play all classes almost equally. Any tips would be great, i can sadly only craft one

Bloodmage Thalnos for Oil Rogue

Vol’Jin Confessor Paletress Chillmaw for Priest

Eydis Darkbanefor Random deck

Al’Akir the Windlord The Mistcaller

These are the legendaries i am considering, the other ones I already have

Finally saved up enough dust for another Legendary.

Play mainly Ramp druid, already have Cenarius.

Want to go neutral as It can be used in more than one deck.

For Neutral I already have Dr Boom and Leeroy, nothing else aside from adventure legendaries.

Actually druid decks doesn't need any other legendary card in general. But If I was supposed to add another legendary to my druid deck (with boom and loatheb), it could be Sylvanas. Which is quite helpful in many other decks too.

What about your sub classes? You might think of developing a 2nd main class.

Whats ur opinion on Chillmaw in comparison to Bloodmage?

Plenty of feedback in the previous pages for Chillmaw, she can be used in dragon decks with advantages and disadvantages (like almost every other card).

Thalnos, indeed crucial in most Rogue decks, and besides those in Freeze Mage and a few others, but not a card that will cripple your win rates if you don't use something similar like for example a Kobold Geomancer (apart from Rogue - he is indeed crucial now there).

So if you're aiming for Rogue (or Freeze Mage), he might be worth crafting, and Chillmaw fits in many dragon decks.

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Whats ur opinion on Chillmaw in comparison to Bloodmage?

I don't really have many subclasses that I actively play.

For quest purposes, I have Murloc Paladin, Face Hunter, Zoolock, Mech Mage, Patron Warrior, Totem Shaman.  Don't really have a reliable rogue or Priest deck.

Was thinking a neutral because I get use out of it for more than one deck.  The only class legendary I have aside from Cenarius is Paletress.