What the hack is this card Renounce Darkness anti mill with an upside and you know that Skulking Geist wont work at all even with a buff (i.e Geist only work on card that start on one, reduction dont count and spells only). the power of this card is that it ONLY takes class cards so i see alot of 1 mana Pyroblast and Death Knights. The real question is will it come with Whizbang the Wonderful
Its like a Renounce Darkness on steroids that doesnt screw up your whole game plan. "4 mana do nothing" is pretty bad, even with Preparation.
My prediction is this will be a meme card in standard, and it could be quite good in wild.
My other prediction is that Im gonna play this in standard on day 1.
Except the 4 mana do nothing kinda gets made up for by the subsequent turns of 1 mana do something worth 6+ mana.
Its true that you CAN get your mana back later, but it will be a lot later and its also RNG. You can get already cheap cards or useless cards from it. Rogue is not a class that can afford dead turns like warrior does.
4 mana do nothing is not the same as a dead turn. Especially for Rogue. You said it's not even that great with prep, 1 mana for this effect is pretty insane for rogue! I mean you can prep, play this, sprint and STILL play two of the cards you just stuck in your deck. That is hardly a dead turn.
I dunno man I think this is really good. I'll be playing it too. It's definitely one of those I'll need to get my hands on to be certain about.
I feel like this card is cool and fun, but a little bit overated (just like tess was).
The main thing to consider is that you either thin out your deck and draws with random cards that might suck. That is the main difference to other burgle cards.
In the myra scenario this will vw strong, but you don't profit as much from the tempo advantage from the mana discount. This might even be really bad in topdeck mode.
So, Ill be playing it. Ill be having fun. But I dont see the myra combo competetive. Maybe miracle? But then again strider is probably more powerful.
Its like a Renounce Darkness on steroids that doesnt screw up your whole game plan. "4 mana do nothing" is pretty bad, even with Preparation.
My prediction is this will be a meme card in standard, and it could be quite good in wild.
My other prediction is that Im gonna play this in standard on day 1.
same dude. I've agreed with everything you've said about cards so far for Boomsday. I am hoping it is slightly more reliable than "meme" status in standard. Either way though I'm playing this on day 1.
I edited my post a while ago. I wasn't the one, who compared it to Renounce - I just said, that the outcome you can get can vary hard and you will get screwed over if you get cheap/situational stuff (paladin secrets; hunter positioning removals). Also, this dilutes your deck hard.
Also also, this whole thing which you described sounds super slow. I would probably do it in the late game (with the auctioneer) or when I'm sure, that I'm not losing the board anymore, which isn't something common for rogues. The current popular rogue decks are tempo ones. Burgle Rogue won't become stronger because of this card.
wow.....I mean.....just wow! lol, I am literally lost for words with a card like this, at first look it seems completely insane, then again is it? yes you could get some really good stuff shuffled into your deck for 1 mana, but other times it will just be garbage blocking the draws you really need such as more spooders which get summoned onto the board for free for example, then again this card with some of the other new cards we've seen so far could go really well together.
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i feel like this card is broken... costing 1 mana... cant they just stop with the mana cheating ? i mean druid is the realy only class who can do so(it is its archetype) but rogue?? come on
What is sad is when you compare this to Jungle Giants and The Marsh Queen. Obviously slightly different, but really, it's like 4 mana, instantly complete a quest.
Ye more RNG stuff.... This expansion set has some very interesting and innovative cards/mechanics and yet is still filled with boring randomness that will be probably determinate if you win or lose out of pure luck.
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For what profit is it to a man, if he gains the world and loses his own soul?
Its like a Renounce Darkness on steroids that doesnt screw up your whole game plan. "4 mana do nothing" is pretty bad, even with Preparation.
My prediction is this will be a meme card in standard, and it could be quite good in wild.
My other prediction is that Im gonna play this in standard on day 1.
same dude. I've agreed with everything you've said about cards so far for Boomsday. I am hoping it is slightly more reliable than "meme" status in standard. Either way though I'm playing this on day 1.
Its like a Renounce Darkness on steroids that doesnt screw up your whole game plan. "4 mana do nothing" is pretty bad, even with Preparation.
My prediction is this will be a meme card in standard, and it could be quite good in wild.
My other prediction is that Im gonna play this in standard on day 1.
Except the 4 mana do nothing kinda gets made up for by the subsequent turns of 1 mana do something worth 6+ mana.
Its true that you CAN get your mana back later, but it will be a lot later and its also RNG. You can get already cheap cards or useless cards from it. Rogue is not a class that can afford dead turns like warrior does.
4 mana do nothing is not the same as a dead turn. Especially for Rogue. You said it's not even that great with prep, 1 mana for this effect is pretty insane for rogue! I mean you can prep, play this, sprint and STILL play two of the cards you just stuck in your deck. That is hardly a dead turn.
I dunno man I think this is really good. I'll be playing it too. It's definitely one of those I'll need to get my hands on to be certain about.
If you play it with Prep, you spend 2 cards for it. It also means that you have 1 less Prep for stuff like Sprint.
I know that 4 mana is not a whole turn, but you want to hold your cards to maybe draw into maybe good discounted cards? I wouldnt call this insane.
I doubt I'd want to play this on turn one with a prep. I'd probably play it after playing unstable element and then start mixing in some more stuff with lab recruiter.
I mean I have no idea what I'm going to do with it yet, and the more awesome options they keep adding for rogue this expansion, the more my head melts.
Ha ha, no doubt I will make some sub-optimal, crazy "johnny" deck and then watch the pro's and get advice from them :D
What the hack is this card Renounce Darkness anti mill with an upside and you know that Skulking Geist wont work at all even with a buff (i.e Geist only work on card that start on one, reduction dont count and spells only). the power of this card is that it ONLY takes class cards so i see alot of 1 mana Pyroblast and Death Knights. The real question is will it come with Whizbang the Wonderful
4 mana do nothing is not the same as a dead turn. Especially for Rogue. You said it's not even that great with prep, 1 mana for this effect is pretty insane for rogue! I mean you can prep, play this, sprint and STILL play two of the cards you just stuck in your deck. That is hardly a dead turn.
I dunno man I think this is really good. I'll be playing it too. It's definitely one of those I'll need to get my hands on to be certain about.
I feel like this card is cool and fun, but a little bit overated (just like tess was).
The main thing to consider is that you either thin out your deck and draws with random cards that might suck. That is the main difference to other burgle cards.
In the myra scenario this will vw strong, but you don't profit as much from the tempo advantage from the mana discount. This might even be really bad in topdeck mode.
So, Ill be playing it. Ill be having fun. But I dont see the myra combo competetive. Maybe miracle? But then again strider is probably more powerful.
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same dude. I've agreed with everything you've said about cards so far for Boomsday. I am hoping it is slightly more reliable than "meme" status in standard. Either way though I'm playing this on day 1.
I edited my post a while ago. I wasn't the one, who compared it to Renounce - I just said, that the outcome you can get can vary hard and you will get screwed over if you get cheap/situational stuff (paladin secrets; hunter positioning removals). Also, this dilutes your deck hard.
Also also, this whole thing which you described sounds super slow. I would probably do it in the late game (with the auctioneer) or when I'm sure, that I'm not losing the board anymore, which isn't something common for rogues. The current popular rogue decks are tempo ones. Burgle Rogue won't become stronger because of this card.
wow.....I mean.....just wow! lol, I am literally lost for words with a card like this, at first look it seems completely insane, then again is it? yes you could get some really good stuff shuffled into your deck for 1 mana, but other times it will just be garbage blocking the draws you really need such as more spooders which get summoned onto the board for free for example, then again this card with some of the other new cards we've seen so far could go really well together.
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i feel like this card is broken... costing 1 mana... cant they just stop with the mana cheating ? i mean druid is the realy only class who can do so(it is its archetype) but rogue?? come on
What is sad is when you compare this to Jungle Giants and The Marsh Queen. Obviously slightly different, but really, it's like 4 mana, instantly complete a quest.
Did we actually find a staple home for tess and myra's unstable element?
Another reason Coldlight Oracle was rotated, I bet.
Ye more RNG stuff.... This expansion set has some very interesting and innovative cards/mechanics and yet is still filled with boring randomness that will be probably determinate if you win or lose out of pure luck.
For what profit is it to a man, if he gains the world and loses his own soul?
no probs.
yeah, you're probably right there. it's still in wild though. I feel sorry for anyone not playing rogue in wild after these cards release.
f u $ k ME!!! finally me golden burgle collection will give me more fun than sorrow!!! <3 <3
Gotta love those 1 mana Voidlords.
I doubt I'd want to play this on turn one with a prep. I'd probably play it after playing unstable element and then start mixing in some more stuff with lab recruiter.
I mean I have no idea what I'm going to do with it yet, and the more awesome options they keep adding for rogue this expansion, the more my head melts.
Ha ha, no doubt I will make some sub-optimal, crazy "johnny" deck and then watch the pro's and get advice from them :D
And now imagine Tess dagger rogue
When u thought Ultimate Infestation is OP, and now u can cast UI for 1 mana!
Did Blizzard's tournament experience with Yogg teach them nothing??
Too much rn to be super viable. But it sure is fun.
Minions, spells and everything inbetween
you can draw your whole deck with legendary spell, than play this with Valeera twice, then another two times to get 40 cards in your deck