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Control pally is not dead, everyone loses healbot. And this is only one cycle of standard. Its important the core cards are balanced no matter what rotates in and out of standard. Even if "pally got nerfed" in standard, standard changes. But the core set, and also wild, do not.
The Arcane Golem nerf seems to have just gone right over your head.
The reason it got nerfed was because of Power Overwhelming + Faceless Manipulator.
I don't really thing the Paladin cards you mentioned need a nerf (maybe Divine Favor) but Aldor Peacekeeper and Lay on Hands aren't really broken and are far from the ones that make them notorious. With Shielded Minibot and Muster for Battle out, curving out isn't really an option for Paladin anymore. Thats all done and behind them(except for in wild). Besides, the cards you chose aren't even cards you would play on curve.
I'm also somewhat surprised they didn't touch Doomhammer. Aggro Shaman is probably still going to be going strong in standard as the only things they lost were Crackle and Whirling Zap-o-matic
Proud creater of 'hand' rogue
Pally might of been one of the weakest classes before gvg, however tgt gave them mysterious challenger and a bunch of other goodies, and loe also gave them some useful tools to work with. When you look at Rogue and even Druid, no other class has a right to complain.
Proud creater of 'hand' rogue
You are very on point concerning Divine Favor
why has mystroeis challenger and secret paladin not been nerfed
Because they only intended to nerf cards from the classic set, secret paladin won't be nearly as good in standard anyway with the loss of muster and minibot
I was pretty much happy with the nerfs, ( I mean at least they did nerf something finally) but the double nerf on Blade Flurry [/card] was a terrible decision. Cards that I WISH were nerfed: [card]Divine Favor, Alexstrasza, Archmage Antonidas, Tirion Fordring, AND smorchammer.
I can't believe they hit rogue that hard but they didn't touch anything in paladin, mage or warrior. If the game gets slower those classes already have an inherent advantage. It just really seems like they have their favourite classes and they keep giving to those classes while ignoring other ones.
You are not prepared!
There are many cards in hearthstone that need changes.. Too bad they ended up changing now only those 12 cards...
Freeze mage needs some changes .. Fireball at 5 damage or alexstraza set to 20_health for 10 mana are probably enough.. Cabal shadow priest has to only be able to steal a minion with 3 mana cost or less, or blizzard should sto printing cards with 2 attack and over 4 mana cost cause the tempo swing and value are way too much.. Mysterious challenger deserves a nerf eventhough secret pala leaves the standard format.. They have to check the balance to wild a bit
Abusive Sergeant, that card is so annoying.
Divine favor.
-Divine Favor: with avenge, shielded minibot and muster for battle rotating, divine favor is down to a more decent level.
-Mountain Giant: another giant would have taken its place.
-Lay on Hands/Aldor Peacekeeper/Tirion Fordring: They are all fine. Lay is a dead turn for paladin, Aldor is good as it is, and tirion is only a class card, so it has to be more powerful than usual, the curve is dead. Also, see the comment on divine favor.
-Doomhammer still has overload. Fair enough.
-Northshire Cleric annoying? yes. Overpowered? no.
-Savage Roar: FoN was the bigger problem.
-Some of Zoolock: Be more specific.
Cards(card) that should have been nerfed more:
Knife Juggler: one thing is nerfing it, and another making it unplayable.
P.D.- Eye of Ugin is already banned in modern.
Ctrl Hunter? WUT?
A better title for this thread would have been "I hate Freeze Mage. Here's how I'd like to nerf it (plus a few random cards I also hate)."
None of the cards you've mentioned need nerfs and none of the nerfs are any good.
Siggees, I have nothing personal against you. You seem like a decent person. You've made many threads like this already where you either nerf cards or buff cards or make your own cards. But I have yet to see one thread by you yet where you have proven that you have an understanding of hearthstone game balance. I don't think you do at all, and that's fine, you don't need to, you just need to be able to play the game well.
I'm not trying to discourage you from making threads were you want to express your opinions (I mean, you have made more than pretty much anyone else on this website, you might want to tone down a bit.) But if you do, you may want to keep it in like 1 thread. You could have your nerf ideas in your custom expansion thread as changes that would come with the expansion. The reason I say this is that every time you make one of these threads all that really happens is a bunch of people call you a moron. If that doesn't bother you, than keep on chugging.
And about your proposed nerf ideas, yes, i think they are horrible. I think this might actually be the worst set of changes yet. I mean azure drake as a 3/3? Come on man.
I returned to this game much like how a recovering alcoholic can relapse.
Why wud I play the new azure drake when it dies to deadly poison, frostbolt, fiery war axe, wrath, and basically every other cheap removal spell. When compared to thalnos, you are basically paying 3 more mana for +2/+2?.... New drake wud be such a bad tempo loss.