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I'm very interested to hear your guys opinions on Zilliax. I think that Zilliax is way to broken atm. I don't remeber a card, that's used this much. It's at a point that Zilliax might be so broken, that it should get hotfixed. I propose that Zilliax should be 6 mana. It just pack too much power at 5 mana.
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That a card is used a lot is not the same as its broken.
It's a card that everyone has access to.
It has tons of counters.
It has tons of synergy.
It rarely swings games.
It can be a key comeback mechanic, though.
It can barely keep you alive to finish the race to lethal.
It is a wonderfully designed card, neither too OP or too weak.
It is a safe craft for veteran and new players alike.
It sounds like you might be a little salty over a loss that featured this card. It's ok, this happens from time to time. Sometimes it gets slapped on to a big magnetic minion and slaps you in the face and takes your lunch money. That's Hearthstone. Doesn't mean the card needs a nerf.
Zilliax is perfection. Leave him be.
He is not really broken in my opinion, he is just viable in many decks.
I follow your argument and actually think that you convinced me. :)
But I do still think that the potential in the card - as a neutral card - is dangerous. They will have to be careful in future expansions about printing cards, that got too much synergy with Zilly :)
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Perfectly balanced, as all things should be
Its a perfect card. Its no way op in anyway.
Another Zilliax thread, really?
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Id say its not broken. But Azure Drake was not broken either and got HoF because it became an auto-include for any deck in the 5-mana slot. And I got the impression that Ziliax is almost in every deck,dont you think guys?
I don`t like it as well (unlike most people here, seemingly).
When a card is added to almost every deck out there, it almost always means it`s of OP in some way.
I agree that it usually doesn`t swing games, but still, in the current meta it is an AMAZING stall tool, especially for decks that can buff it/heal it/get more than 1 copy.
It needs a nerf.
no it doesnt, the card is a good healing and anti-aggro tool and that's it
Azure drake was part of the classic set though, so could have stayed as a staple in the 5 mana slot forever. Zilliax will be gone in a year.
Azure Drake is a classic card, Zilliax will rotate. There is a huge difference between them, one would clutter the design space forever, other is leaving after a while.
Nah it's not broken at all, it's just versatile.
even when it is used to build some towering, un-godly mech... we have silence and the like, exactly for situations like this.
only if something cannot be countered should it even be considered for nerfs IMO (or has only a niche counter that barely anyone can access)
Someone doesn't remember Patches the Pirate and Corridor Creeper. Or for a 5 mana example, Azure Drake.
I don't think Zilliax compares to any of those in terms of ubiquitous powerlevel. It's certainly a strong card, and would no doubt be Hall of Famed if it were a Classic card, but I think it's fine as an expansion card.
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In the current state, Ziliax is too much of an auto include imo. Further, with the amount of mechs that can randomly enter matches (discover effects, lacky evolves, etc) the "magnetic" keyword can in itself be a huge swing in the match, even when the deck is not build for this. Due to the rush, taunt, divine shield combo Ziliax is very likely to heal for twice its attack. With the 3 attack Ziliax in itself, this is not that much of a problem, but when its put on even something as a 3/3 mech the healing value doubles, which does impact the game too much I think.
Zilliax is in 50% of decks at the moment. Is i recall corridor creeper was in about 40% of decks - and it got hotfixed VERY fast. Patches I didn't think of, that's true - and he properly were around 50% as well. But Blizz was also largely criticized by pro players about how slowly he was nerfed.
But I do also see your point about it only being an expansion card.
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