Guys.... Stop thinking in arenamode... Ofc it s a Bad Card "when you re behind" but in constructed These Kinds of Decks Are called "controledecks" and yes they shouldn't play it. But for aggrodecks it s quite Fine midgamedrop. Because it s Not bghable and survives lightbomb (lightbomb is wild only, if i remember correctly) if played on curve it s a tempoloss if silenced by owl or earthshock, keeper of the grobe is a slow Play allowing the aggrodeck to Deal facedamage with the minions on Board. Keeper of uldaman is quite ineffectiv against it. If cabald it s already way better, but don't forget. You re getting a 0/7 Not a 7/7 making this basically a 0/7 taunt unless you re close to death. This Card is definitly gonna find his Place. Maybe with Heavy taunts it Might Even find Play in a more controlish Deck.
Rogues and Priests are both quite capable of avoiding that outcome, with minimal additional investment.
Another thing people can't seem to keep in their heads is that not all 5-mana cards are actually played on turn 5. That doesn't make them bad cards.
So now you have to use TWO cards for a 6 mana 7/7? Well good job on that hefty tempo you generated... 1 Attack over a Boulderfist Ogre for a card more... Buff priest can already target better minions and way earlier for that matter, but you don't see it run because it's not viable to bet everything on a single minion and you lose the moment it gets removed efficently by BGH, Silence and any soft or hardremoval of any sorts. The card doesn't suck entirely, but it's in the opposite realm of "good" or "strong".
This card definitely seems like a viable Fel Reaver replacement, especially since the drawback won't be automatically game losing vs some classes. That being said, even if BGH gets needed, people may turn to more silences in their decks, especially if C'Thun decks become really popular (you have to deal with the 15/15 after the battle cry as well)
This card definitely seems like a viable Fel Reaver replacement, especially since the drawback won't be automatically game losing vs some classes. That being said, even if BGH gets needed, people may turn to more silences in their decks, especially if C'Thun decks become really popular (you have to deal with the 15/15 after the battle cry as well)
The drawback is severely more punishing here. If you drop this card and it gets killed for free of silenced, you will lose the game most likely.
Even when it doesn't get killed all the opponent has to do is damage it. Are you really going to put a 7/1, 7/2 or 7/3 5mana card into your deck? Not really.
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When you dump something down the toilet it disappears while still existing in the sewers. Welcome to Wild mode, "it's not like they took our cards away".
People come up with scenarios just to say it s a Bad Card. This is a good Card for tempodecks vs controle decks. It s Not swdable First turn, it s Not bghable First turn, ist s Not lightbombable First turn instead it s silenceable and remains As a Body on board. who plays silences? Correct, druids, renolock and aggrodecks. Nobody Else and it forces the Enemy to react.
people Compare it to Cards with Entirely different Effects. You want a big who is shutdown by silence but remains in board? Don't Compare it to icerager who has no effect and simply is a 5/2. Compare it to Edwin van cleave. Is Edwin played? Yes he is if Not to Many silences Are around. Will this BE played? same As EvC. In a silence-heavy meta (aka aggro&druid-Meta) ist will Not find place. But it will find Place in controleheavy Meta in Decks with early Boardcontrole.
Guess what half you Guys predicted As a metashift.... Druid gets nerfed and it s getting controleheavier.... So stop saying bullshit like "herp derp i can attack it and it doesn't Deal damage lol" cause you Need boardcontrole to attack it. we already Understood that you Suck at deckbuilding, now go and Play secretpally on rank 15.
If they nerf silences this card could see some play. Unfortunately it will still suffer from Bolf problem, where you could efficiently trade with a minion without damaging your own. That, and Cabal.
Nobles Problem is that it is a controledeckcard. This Card is for tempodecks. This Mechanic works Fine for tempodecks cause you have boardcontrole the Moment you Play it. Also don't See the cabslproblem. As mentioned you re suposed to have boardcontrole when you Play this. You can easily Clear the 0/7, making this 7 reduced facedamage... Impressive cabal value compared to Taking another minion that actually Immideatly Deals damage.
Good card when you are ahead and bad when you are behind. Probably will not see any play, for control decks it will never survive a turn, for aggro decks Sea Giant is better.
Good card when you are ahead and bad when you are behind. Probably will not see any play, for control decks it will never survive a turn, for aggro decks Sea Giant is better.
That's what people said about Fel Reaver and this card suits the same kind of deck as Fel Reaver.
Good card when you are ahead and bad when you are behind. Probably will not see any play, for control decks it will never survive a turn, for aggro decks Sea Giant is better.
That's what people said about Fel Reaver and this card suits the same kind of deck as Fel Reaver.
No. Fel Reaver is simply better; Fel Reaver is not a conditional card, it's always 8/8, and trades as 8/8, regardless of board state, you can play it when ahead, and when behind. Card loss of Fel Reaver is not a big drawback (especially for aggro deck) in comparision to this.
The old gods have validated his doomsaying, yet seems less doomful somehow. Too much doom?
^Yeah,it is a weird way to name this card, maybe he should be named Inaccurate Doomsayer since there is no doom whatsoever.
After some thought I think one should compare this card to salty Dog. AT BEST. This can cet silenced. And is completely useless when behind.
Guys.... Stop thinking in arenamode... Ofc it s a Bad Card "when you re behind" but in constructed These Kinds of Decks Are called "controledecks" and yes they shouldn't play it. But for aggrodecks it s quite Fine midgamedrop. Because it s Not bghable and survives lightbomb (lightbomb is wild only, if i remember correctly) if played on curve it s a tempoloss if silenced by owl or earthshock, keeper of the grobe is a slow Play allowing the aggrodeck to Deal facedamage with the minions on Board. Keeper of uldaman is quite ineffectiv against it. If cabald it s already way better, but don't forget. You re getting a 0/7 Not a 7/7 making this basically a 0/7 taunt unless you re close to death. This Card is definitly gonna find his Place. Maybe with Heavy taunts it Might Even find Play in a more controlish Deck.
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This card definitely seems like a viable Fel Reaver replacement, especially since the drawback won't be automatically game losing vs some classes. That being said, even if BGH gets needed, people may turn to more silences in their decks, especially if C'Thun decks become really popular (you have to deal with the 15/15 after the battle cry as well)
Even when it doesn't get killed all the opponent has to do is damage it. Are you really going to put a 7/1, 7/2 or 7/3 5mana card into your deck?
Not really.
When you dump something down the toilet it disappears while still existing in the sewers. Welcome to Wild mode, "it's not like they took our cards away".
People come up with scenarios just to say it s a Bad Card. This is a good Card for tempodecks vs controle decks. It s Not swdable First turn, it s Not bghable First turn, ist s Not lightbombable First turn instead it s silenceable and remains As a Body on board. who plays silences? Correct, druids, renolock and aggrodecks. Nobody Else and it forces the Enemy to react.
people Compare it to Cards with Entirely different Effects. You want a big who is shutdown by silence but remains in board? Don't Compare it to icerager who has no effect and simply is a 5/2. Compare it to Edwin van cleave. Is Edwin played? Yes he is if Not to Many silences Are around. Will this BE played? same As EvC. In a silence-heavy meta (aka aggro&druid-Meta) ist will Not find place. But it will find Place in controleheavy Meta in Decks with early Boardcontrole.
Guess what half you Guys predicted As a metashift.... Druid gets nerfed and it s getting controleheavier.... So stop saying bullshit like "herp derp i can attack it and it doesn't Deal damage lol" cause you Need boardcontrole to attack it. we already Understood that you Suck at deckbuilding, now go and Play secretpally on rank 15.
I like this card art, regardless its potential strength.
If they nerf silences this card could see some play. Unfortunately it will still suffer from Bolf problem, where you could efficiently trade with a minion without damaging your own. That, and Cabal.
Nobles Problem is that it is a controledeckcard. This Card is for tempodecks. This Mechanic works Fine for tempodecks cause you have boardcontrole the Moment you Play it. Also don't See the cabslproblem. As mentioned you re suposed to have boardcontrole when you Play this. You can easily Clear the 0/7, making this 7 reduced facedamage... Impressive cabal value compared to Taking another minion that actually Immideatly Deals damage.
Perhaps a replacement for Fel Reaver in aggro druid?
It's like if Dr. Boom got his degree from a Caribbean Medical School.
Good card when you are ahead and bad when you are behind. Probably will not see any play, for control decks it will never survive a turn, for aggro decks Sea Giant is better.
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Would you even play this over a frost wolf warlord?
This is a turn 6 rogue card to be combo'd with Conceal
Wants to play Captain Cookie Druid because why not?