The card itself wasn't nerfed. The limit on battlecries doesn't affect the card in any way. If your win condition is "Shudderwock must cast more than 20 battlecries" you have a bad deck.
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The card itself wasn't nerfed. The limit on battlecries doesn't affect the card in any way. If your win condition is "Shudderwock must cast more than 20 battlecries" you have a bad deck.
That's a subjective opinion
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Sounds like a nerf to me. If they screw it up with this card and now they have to fix it... should be a dust refund
The card itself wasn't nerfed. The limit on battlecries doesn't affect the card in any way. If your win condition is "Shudderwock must cast more than 20 battlecries" you have a bad deck.
I do not care if my deck is bad that's a change to card 20 battrlecry is not same than 30+
even if it was not a nerf it is a change to the card that merits refund
For fucks sake... show me the deck that routinely required >20 battlecries to fire off to pull off their win condition (trolling isn't a win condition). It's not a nerf; it's a sanity saver.
For fucks sake... show me the deck that routinely required >20 battlecries to fire off to pull off their win condition (trolling isn't a win condition). It's not a nerf; it's a sanity saver.
so u said play for fun is trolling? for example jades battlecry in wild
As much as I'd like a dust refund, I honestly don't believe this minor change affects Shudderwock's abilities in the slightest. I think Blizzard can get away with not providing refunds this time around.
I made a gold Shudderwock on day 1 cause I could have fun with it b4 nerf. I mean it felt like it deserved a nerf. Now Im just feeling silly for doing it. Lesson learned I suppose..
The change is, by definition, a nerf. To not offer a refund sets a precedent. Which nerfs are refund worthy, and which are not? They should giving the refund if people want it.
I don't have shudderwock, so this doesn't impact me either way. It's just good policy to offer the refund after any change to a card.
It's not a big deal. Who cares about the precedent of "what's full dust refund-worthy and what's not". I would classify this as not full dust worthy and not even think about it lol. It's not changing something from 5/5 to 2/5 or whatever.
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The card itself wasn't nerfed. The limit on battlecries doesn't affect the card in any way. If your win condition is "Shudderwock must cast more than 20 battlecries" you have a bad deck.
To be fair, Yoggs text didn't change either, just the mechanic behind. In a similar way to what happened to Jabberwocky. And Yogg gave full dust refund, iirc.
The card itself wasn't nerfed. The limit on battlecries doesn't affect the card in any way. If your win condition is "Shudderwock must cast more than 20 battlecries" you have a bad deck.
To be fair, Yoggs text didn't change either, just the mechanic behind. In a similar way to what happened to Jabberwocky. And Yogg gave full dust refund, iirc.
Yogg was most definitely a nerf. To call both of them not a nerf because the text didn't change would be to also say that Naga Sea Witch wasn't a buff because the text wasn't changed.
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This isn't a nerf. The only way that the change to the animation would affect a player's play style is if they relied on the fact that Shudderwock would eat their opponent's turn, thereby winning that way... If so, then that deck is exploiting a bug. They fixed a bug, but kept the nature of the card intact.. Not a nerf.
There's no refund cause the cardis basically the same, the 20 battlecries are only relevant in very fringe cases (You can't seriously tell me that everyone crying in this thread had an amazing Shudderwock combo with +20 battlecries gtfo) and speeding up the animations is something that affects nothing gameplay wise, it just makes it so you and your opponent have to wait less but the card is the same and does exactly the same as it did yesterday, it costs the same, has the same stats, its battlecry is pretty much the same in 98% of the cases, and the text is the same, the card wasn't changed, you're not supposed to be sitting20 minutes watchin the animation of a single card, Blizzard fixed a technical issue they fucked, the card wasn't nerfed, it didn't change, stop crying about dust, if you're so desperate then put more money into the game or more time.
If you crafted Shudderwock thinking it's incredibly OP in the current meta (On its own the card is very powerful but just way too slow for the meta) or thinking that blizzard would for sure nerf it and you would get the dust back anyway, well guess what? You fucked up son, man up, we all crafted something stupid/impulsively/drunk/ thinking it was OP and fucked up, eithertry to look for the best ppossible shaman deck (Look for AsmodaiTV's list, Mid-range ish and probably the best list out there atm) or take your salty 400 dust and stop crying.
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Shudderwock now reproduces a maximum of 20 Battlecries is a change nerf why we can not disenchant full dust?
The card itself wasn't nerfed. The limit on battlecries doesn't affect the card in any way. If your win condition is "Shudderwock must cast more than 20 battlecries" you have a bad deck.
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For fucks sake... show me the deck that routinely required >20 battlecries to fire off to pull off their win condition (trolling isn't a win condition). It's not a nerf; it's a sanity saver.
Some greedy people in this thread
As much as I'd like a dust refund, I honestly don't believe this minor change affects Shudderwock's abilities in the slightest. I think Blizzard can get away with not providing refunds this time around.
I made a gold Shudderwock on day 1 cause I could have fun with it b4 nerf. I mean it felt like it deserved a nerf. Now Im just feeling silly for doing it. Lesson learned I suppose..
If you're so desperate to beg for dust in this way, you should probably just stop playing HS and find another hobby.
For what profit is it to a man, if he gains the world and loses his own soul?
I know it's already been said, but...
Wow, some greedy people in this thread.
It's not a big deal. Who cares about the precedent of "what's full dust refund-worthy and what's not". I would classify this as not full dust worthy and not even think about it lol. It's not changing something from 5/5 to 2/5 or whatever.
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This isn't a nerf. The only way that the change to the animation would affect a player's play style is if they relied on the fact that Shudderwock would eat their opponent's turn, thereby winning that way... If so, then that deck is exploiting a bug. They fixed a bug, but kept the nature of the card intact.. Not a nerf.
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There's no refund cause the cardis basically the same, the 20 battlecries are only relevant in very fringe cases (You can't seriously tell me that everyone crying in this thread had an amazing Shudderwock combo with +20 battlecries gtfo) and speeding up the animations is something that affects nothing gameplay wise, it just makes it so you and your opponent have to wait less but the card is the same and does exactly the same as it did yesterday, it costs the same, has the same stats, its battlecry is pretty much the same in 98% of the cases, and the text is the same, the card wasn't changed, you're not supposed to be sitting20 minutes watchin the animation of a single card, Blizzard fixed a technical issue they fucked, the card wasn't nerfed, it didn't change, stop crying about dust, if you're so desperate then put more money into the game or more time.
If you crafted Shudderwock thinking it's incredibly OP in the current meta (On its own the card is very powerful but just way too slow for the meta) or thinking that blizzard would for sure nerf it and you would get the dust back anyway, well guess what? You fucked up son, man up, we all crafted something stupid/impulsively/drunk/ thinking it was OP and fucked up, eithertry to look for the best ppossible shaman deck (Look for AsmodaiTV's list, Mid-range ish and probably the best list out there atm) or take your salty 400 dust and stop crying.