The more I think about this, the more troubling it becomes to me. Blizzard saw that Priest needed a big boost; Brode says it himself. And this is the answer? Add this to the mage arena stuff and I just don't know what to say. They either don't know how to balance their game or they don't care to. Neither conclusion makes me confident that the game is in the right hands.
I don't like to make negative posts, but it's really hard not to be disappointed - and surprised in all honesty.
Given the lack of Priest decks in Tournaments, and the clear feedback the designers must surely be aware of for some time now - not to mention the obvious stats they can see with the current meta on ladder in standard, why they would totally fail to make even some attempt to make Priest viable with this adventure is confusing.
I like many players used to play Priest, but have been forced to essentially abandon it since the standard format was introduced. I think many expected some form of improvement, but to see a card even poorer that Power Word: Tenticles is frankly amazing.
Purify?
Priest already has a 0 mana Silence. Does the class need or want a 2 mana Silence that can't even be used on enemy minions? Even the host of the stream was dumbfounded.
I was a little underwhelmed by the first 2 cards shown, but I literally got out my chair and laughed at how bad Purify (the final chance for an actual ray of hope) was when revealed - it was so ridiculous and moved things from bad to farce.
I thought it was telling that Yong Woo indicated that when told Priest need some viable early game minions that they might look at that some time in the future. Err, this should have been addressed in Old Gods if not this adventure. Purify. Wow. They saved the best till last in the order they were revealed in the stream.
It's just a card game and I'll just continue to play other classes I guess. A missed opportunity at best if not just an out and out insult.
The bishop is a good card, but not what Priest needs. Same with the 4-drop. Both will probably still see some play but I'm extremely disappointed. Purify is the stupidest thing I've ever read, the Corrupted Scrolls card that Eloise posted would be better (and that's saying something).
But I mean, it really isn't that good. 3 mana 3/4 is already standard. Rez is 2 mana. The only advantage it has is combining two cards. That isn't strong enough. 4 mana 3/4 with rez, closer to what Priest needs to turn around. 5 mana I expected at least a 4/5.
Without any new class early game which in general are more powerful and tend to be staples of good decks, priest is still confined to obscurity. Honestly with the next expansion if priest got nothing but 0-4 cost cards they'd still find a way to completely fuck it up.
The bishop is a good card, but not what Priest needs. Same with the 4-drop. Both will probably still see some play but I'm extremely disappointed. Purify is the stupidest thing I've ever read, the Corrupted Scrolls card that Eloise posted would be better (and that's saying something).
But I mean, it really isn't that good. 3 mana 3/4 is already standard. Rez is 2 mana. The only advantage it has is combining two cards. That isn't strong enough. 4 mana 3/4 with rez, closer to what Priest needs to turn around. 5 mana I expected at least a 4/5.
Without any new class early game which in general are more powerful and tend to be staples of good decks, priest is still confined to obscurity. Honestly with the next expansion if priest got nothing but 0-4 cost cards they'd still find a way to completely fuck it up.
It could've been at least a 3/5 or 4/4. Blizzard always gives other classes over-stated minions for their effect. I get that the Resurrect mechanic is a tricky one to balance but it wouldn't kill them to give Priest an "unfair card," especially considering it still wouldn't help Priest at all.
"You say the last expansion didn’t turn out like you planned. You’re feeling blue and clueless, you just don’t understand. You’re sad, sulky, sullen, moping and morose. You’re woefully weak and weary, semi-comatose. You stare at your computer screen devoid of any joy and hope. You’re so depressed, you can’t get dressed, you're noosing up a rope. Just remind yourself, when you can’t stand it any more, that we’ve been through some crappy times before. We’ve been though some crappy times before. Slavery, unbridled knavery and the civil war.
Don’t stop caring, stop despairing, get up off the floor, because we’ve been through some crappy times before. Intolerable intolerance has swept across the land. The priest hating developers have got the upper hand. They're peeping though the windows and they are creeping through the door. But we’ve been through some crappy times before. We’ve been through some crappy times before. McCarthyism, prohibition, and the World Wars.
Were up the creek, the boat is leaking, still we'll reach the shore. Because we’ve been through some crappy times before. Recent reasurances that everything is fine. It’s been a while since we were a canary in this mine. When you think it’s really bad, it gets a little worse. But keep on looking forward, though we’re going in reverse. We shout out that the emperor is not wearing any clothes. He lies so much that you could hang your laundry from his nose. The warrior is in the hen house and the shaman is at the door. But we’ve been thought some crappy times before. We've been through some crappy times before. Indiscretion, floods, Depression, Vietnam and more.
The sun has set but don’t forget another day is in store. Because we’ve been thought some crappy times before. Yes we’ve been though some crappy times before. Yes, we’ve been though some crappy times before."
Stay strong men, stay strong.
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I returned to this game much like how a recovering alcoholic can relapse.
They are clearly telling priest players to abandon the class. They can design powerful cards when they want to and they power creep other cards so yes they know exactly was they are doing.
They keep saying that the hero power is op af and priest is annoying to play against, so I see what are they trying to do.
Good job blizzard, I am switching classes or even this game with the elder scrolls legends.
Blizzard is working rigth now in a expansion that could come in a year, that kind of things have already been said,when they were aware of the priest underpowered situation, they had nothing to do, its a pathetic way to work but safe and easy to work with, as someplayers have said, we will see some good priest card in a future expansion, but the way blizzard works to buff class is pathetic, and the way they work with priest is shameful. So even that i love priest, i know that the changes that they will do to priest will be disgusting and lacking dessign as always.
If you are not sure about this check WoTOG, everyone said that when standard arrives, aggro shaman would be tier 1 and unnostopable, they were right, more or less, still they added some broken shaman cards, because their feedback for the previous 7-9 months was that shaman was rubbish, still after the feedback that they got, they still released these cards, same is happening with priest, im not begging patience or understanding for priest players, im just saying what we have witnessed until now.
i read this forum everyday and you have become really annoying with the priest matter. even if priest got a 2 mana 2/3 with a niche effect kinda like that 2 drop mech in gvg IT WONT MAKE PRIEST A FACE CLASS neither it will help you against a deck that vomits its hand in 3 turns. priest is a control class the best in the game as it beats every other control archetype but its bad against tempo-aggro decks if you draw poor especially. guess what meta is tempo crazy aggro right now cause you the community chose it. you play dragon warrior as a face deck and never trade.... sowhat do you want exactly for priest? priest is the control class and it gets control cards what do you expect? to get a deck like tempo or aggro? its almost the same as hunter will get a control deck. control will always be weak cause this game is tempo driven. and yeah priest is the control class so it will always suck
i read this forum everyday and you have become really annoying with the priest matter. even if priest got a 2 mana 2/3 with a niche effect kinda like that 2 drop mech in gvg IT WONT MAKE PRIEST A FACE CLASS neither it will help you against a deck that vomits its hand in 3 turns. priest is a control class the best in the game as it beats every other control archetype but its bad against tempo-aggro decks if you draw poor especially. guess what meta is tempo crazy aggro right now cause you the community chose it. you play dragon warrior as a face deck and never trade.... sowhat do you want exactly for priest? priest is the control class and it gets control cards what do you expect? to get a deck like tempo or aggro? its almost the same as hunter will get a control deck. control will always be weak cause this game is tempo driven. and yeah priest is the control class so it will always suck
Priest beat every what? C'Thun warrior and C'Thun Druid would like to have a word with you. Also might i ask you where you see control cards in this new adventure? I don't see any. When i see something that just remotely looks like Lightbomb i'll admit you are right.
you play any priest at all? priest beats cthun warrior like 80% of the time. do you know how to play this game at all or youre one of those kids who netdeck a dragon warrior and go face? you dont see any control cards? all 3 of them are control cards, you think control is only boardclear? i wont continue this cause i have realised what type of people make these comments. propably the same kids that spam emotes on twitch.
C'thun druid is not control, its midrange, that rekts control, its great that it destroys priest, dont mix it because it makes your arguments poor.
There is control cards in this adventure, not to priest, look at paladin, even mage could say that got controlish cards, medivh is for slow decks(not the same than control, and i dont believe that he fits in contorl decks but lets see), but i see your point, you wanted some control card that is obsiuly broken and op so control can match againt the decks that are rigth know overpowered and broken, but it would be more like solve a problem making another problem and pray then.
With your sentece about ligthbomb you gave him all credits about his commentary, everyone that have played priest a lot and well know his problem and his style, a true 2 drop would improve the class, but rigth know it would still be the worst, priest needs a lot of tools to can use the tols that he already have, card draw/good minions on curve to use the cleric, ligthbobm rigth know could give you 1 or 2 turns to nothijng, and its SO easy to play around ligthbomb against priest specially rigth now, if we want to point out every single thing that priest needs and suggest how to solve it, it would need a huge post otherwise it would be a crybaby complain from the community.
To be honest, I'm not gonna be surprised if Priest gets the same response in this expansion to people complaining about it being too underpowered that Shaman did in League of Explorers. I can never stop laughing at all the people who complain about all the overpowered Shaman cards when so much of the community was demanding stronger Shaman cards. If anything, they should be thankful for Flamewreathed Faceless and Thing From Below.
It seems like you don't know anything. Giving Shaman 4 mana 7/7 and potential 0 mana 5/5 is not how you fix a class.
The more I think about this, the more troubling it becomes to me. Blizzard saw that Priest needed a big boost; Brode says it himself. And this is the answer? Add this to the mage arena stuff and I just don't know what to say. They either don't know how to balance their game or they don't care to. Neither conclusion makes me confident that the game is in the right hands.
What was Blizzard even thinking? Oh, I guess they weren't. Team 5 needs to all be fired.
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my priest card collection is empty now, guess that should say enough
i gave up on them after seeing the stream
not buying the adventure either
Time to disenchant all my priest cards!
I don't like to make negative posts, but it's really hard not to be disappointed - and surprised in all honesty.
Given the lack of Priest decks in Tournaments, and the clear feedback the designers must surely be aware of for some time now - not to mention the obvious stats they can see with the current meta on ladder in standard, why they would totally fail to make even some attempt to make Priest viable with this adventure is confusing.
I like many players used to play Priest, but have been forced to essentially abandon it since the standard format was introduced. I think many expected some form of improvement, but to see a card even poorer that Power Word: Tenticles is frankly amazing.
Purify?
Priest already has a 0 mana Silence. Does the class need or want a 2 mana Silence that can't even be used on enemy minions? Even the host of the stream was dumbfounded.
I was a little underwhelmed by the first 2 cards shown, but I literally got out my chair and laughed at how bad Purify (the final chance for an actual ray of hope) was when revealed - it was so ridiculous and moved things from bad to farce.
I thought it was telling that Yong Woo indicated that when told Priest need some viable early game minions that they might look at that some time in the future. Err, this should have been addressed in Old Gods if not this adventure. Purify. Wow. They saved the best till last in the order they were revealed in the stream.
It's just a card game and I'll just continue to play other classes I guess. A missed opportunity at best if not just an out and out insult.
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Without any new class early game which in general are more powerful and tend to be staples of good decks, priest is still confined to obscurity. Honestly with the next expansion if priest got nothing but 0-4 cost cards they'd still find a way to completely fuck it up.
for weeks and weeks i tried to make them work
hoping to get anything remotely useful, doesn't have to be super strong, just to bring them back in line somewhat
and then this atrocity happened. not a single card got me excited from what i've seen. maybe the lurker, that one's pretty cool
for the rest i was just shaking my head and was bored thorughout the whole thing
sorry for making such sad statements, i just don't have something nice to say about it.....
They probably made these cards months ago. The improved Priest cards will come next March, surely!
It sucks that Shaman went from zero to hero but Priest can't catch a break. I know one class will always be worst, but seriously this bad?
Ahem.
"You say the last expansion didn’t turn out like you planned. You’re feeling blue and clueless, you just don’t understand. You’re sad, sulky, sullen, moping and morose. You’re woefully weak and weary, semi-comatose. You stare at your computer screen devoid of any joy and hope. You’re so depressed, you can’t get dressed, you're noosing up a rope. Just remind yourself, when you can’t stand it any more, that we’ve been through some crappy times before. We’ve been though some crappy times before. Slavery, unbridled knavery and the civil war.
Don’t stop caring, stop despairing, get up off the floor, because we’ve been through some crappy times before. Intolerable intolerance has swept across the land. The priest hating developers have got the upper hand. They're peeping though the windows and they are creeping through the door. But we’ve been through some crappy times before. We’ve been through some crappy times before. McCarthyism, prohibition, and the World Wars.
Were up the creek, the boat is leaking, still we'll reach the shore. Because we’ve been through some crappy times before. Recent reasurances that everything is fine. It’s been a while since we were a canary in this mine. When you think it’s really bad, it gets a little worse. But keep on looking forward, though we’re going in reverse. We shout out that the emperor is not wearing any clothes. He lies so much that you could hang your laundry from his nose. The warrior is in the hen house and the shaman is at the door. But we’ve been thought some crappy times before. We've been through some crappy times before. Indiscretion, floods, Depression, Vietnam and more.
The sun has set but don’t forget another day is in store. Because we’ve been thought some crappy times before. Yes we’ve been though some crappy times before. Yes, we’ve been though some crappy times before."
Stay strong men, stay strong.
I returned to this game much like how a recovering alcoholic can relapse.
They are clearly telling priest players to abandon the class. They can design powerful cards when they want to and they power creep other cards so yes they know exactly was they are doing.
They keep saying that the hero power is op af and priest is annoying to play against, so I see what are they trying to do.
Good job blizzard, I am switching classes or even this game with the elder scrolls legends.
Sadly new cards are not amazing but we still have lots of fun stuff to play.
English is not my native language, so, with a high probability, mistakes were made.
Welp...
Looks like this will be the first adventure that I don't buy...
Even the cards for the other classes are underwhelming...
Priest actually got worst with this expansion. Including arena Priest. Hahahahaha...
Blizzard is working rigth now in a expansion that could come in a year, that kind of things have already been said,when they were aware of the priest underpowered situation, they had nothing to do, its a pathetic way to work but safe and easy to work with, as someplayers have said, we will see some good priest card in a future expansion, but the way blizzard works to buff class is pathetic, and the way they work with priest is shameful. So even that i love priest, i know that the changes that they will do to priest will be disgusting and lacking dessign as always.
If you are not sure about this check WoTOG, everyone said that when standard arrives, aggro shaman would be tier 1 and unnostopable, they were right, more or less, still they added some broken shaman cards, because their feedback for the previous 7-9 months was that shaman was rubbish, still after the feedback that they got, they still released these cards, same is happening with priest, im not begging patience or understanding for priest players, im just saying what we have witnessed until now.
Having a good time with the meta.
Seriously, all they had to do was add a decent 2 drop for Priest. Museum Curator is not a 2-drop. Someone need to tell Blizzard this.
The 2-drop silence is probably the worst card in the game right now.
i read this forum everyday and you have become really annoying with the priest matter. even if priest got a 2 mana 2/3 with a niche effect kinda like that 2 drop mech in gvg IT WONT MAKE PRIEST A FACE CLASS neither it will help you against a deck that vomits its hand in 3 turns. priest is a control class the best in the game as it beats every other control archetype but its bad against tempo-aggro decks if you draw poor especially. guess what meta is tempo crazy aggro right now cause you the community chose it. you play dragon warrior as a face deck and never trade.... sowhat do you want exactly for priest? priest is the control class and it gets control cards what do you expect? to get a deck like tempo or aggro? its almost the same as hunter will get a control deck. control will always be weak cause this game is tempo driven. and yeah priest is the control class so it will always suck
woah, letss go 1 by 1.
C'thun druid is not control, its midrange, that rekts control, its great that it destroys priest, dont mix it because it makes your arguments poor.
There is control cards in this adventure, not to priest, look at paladin, even mage could say that got controlish cards, medivh is for slow decks(not the same than control, and i dont believe that he fits in contorl decks but lets see), but i see your point, you wanted some control card that is obsiuly broken and op so control can match againt the decks that are rigth know overpowered and broken, but it would be more like solve a problem making another problem and pray then.
With your sentece about ligthbomb you gave him all credits about his commentary, everyone that have played priest a lot and well know his problem and his style, a true 2 drop would improve the class, but rigth know it would still be the worst, priest needs a lot of tools to can use the tols that he already have, card draw/good minions on curve to use the cleric, ligthbobm rigth know could give you 1 or 2 turns to nothijng, and its SO easy to play around ligthbomb against priest specially rigth now, if we want to point out every single thing that priest needs and suggest how to solve it, it would need a huge post otherwise it would be a crybaby complain from the community.
Having a good time with the meta.