So since the release of RR i was expecting the good ol tradition of ppl experimenting new decks like they used to. Except i played Ranked Standard Tavern Brawl Casual Standard and Ranked Wild. 75% of my opponents were Hunters and always the new op spell hunter.
Is there a reason for it or are HS players just close minded? Im running Chief Inspector in every deck now. Thats sas but i guess im just gonna start running a deck that wins against Spell Hunter. Cant have fun experimenting cause nobody else is.
This is true. People are waiting for some PRO that will discover broken decks so they can get it without efforts. Netdecking is what is ruining the first weeks of an expac.
So since the release of RR i was expecting the good ol tradition of ppl experimenting new decks like they used to. Except i played Ranked Standard Tavern Brawl Casual Standard and Ranked Wild. 75% of my opponents were Hunters and always the new op spell hunter.
Is there a reason for it or are HS players just close minded? Im running Chief Inspector in every deck now. Thats sas but i guess im just gonna start running a deck that wins against Spell Hunter. Cant have fun experimenting cause nobody else is.
Well why would people risk their gold on the brawl playing some weird flamboyant meme deck that won't work? They are not close minded, just intelligent, people don't like to mess around with their money, even if it's virtual money with no real value outside of the game.
Also people like to win, yes you play to have fun, but everyone likes to win... And today Zalae said on his stream: "On average an old deck with no new cards (or maybe 1 or 2 really strong ones) is way stronger than a day 1-2 new archetype deck".
What do you expect? In the Tavern Brawl people want to get as many decks as possible, why would they choose an experimental deck that might not work?
Same goes for ladder, be it standard or wild. If you are at rank 6 or rank 2 or anywhere close to the next rank floor, would you risk dropping 10 stars or would you play with a proven successful deck to get you to the next floor?
I feel there is quite some experimentation at the rank floors and in casual, just not in the competitve ranks. On the upside though, if you like to experiment yourself, you can just go to those formats and test your decks against a competition that you can expect to face for the next few weeks anyway. And if your deck doesn't perform against those you know that you have to improve it.
That is always how it works. I really wonder why people want to play new homebrew decks and expect to win against players who play to climb.
On the upside, because there are so many hunters right now, it will not be long before the next meta deck will show up which feasts on those. And maybe you will be the one who discovers it during your experimentation. Just might take a few more losses.
I don't have the cards needed for spell hunter but i think other people who have and play the deck enjoy and it sort of is a new deck.
Its a deck ftom K&C exp and Zuljin is the only new card. They dont even need to plsy zuljin most if the time. That deck is vrry refined and curve consistent that preys on less refined and new decks. Until the meta is discovered spell hunter will reign supreme.
I did tried Beast druid which seemed fun. Played a lot of different decks so i cant really have an opinion yet and not many time too. Faced spell hunters about 20 times. Im around 45% wr which isnt bad considering im running homebrew decks but just the sheet frequency of facing the same class is making my RR experience boring.
Sad cause its one of my fav exps but getting bored of it ONLY cause im mostly facing the same deck.
That is always how it works. I really wonder why people want to play new homebrew decks and expect to win against players who play to climb.
Because everyone's needs are different. Some feels successful while climbing ladder, some feels better when they discover viable decks, some feels happy when they succeed a meme, Some feels proud when they beat meta decks with homebrew ones.
This is why there are every kind of cards, memes, OPs, trashes, etc.
One way or another, there will be always whines which are right or not. The fact is that All will be enjoyed at the end of the day if they really likes to play.
Edit: And for the OP;
The experimenting players are less than you think and if you are on 10+ ranks you will not probably see them because they are losing ranks while experimenting decks and meta decks continues to climb.
and also, you can't expect people to try new things in brawl while its fee is much and reward is nothing under 5 wins. So, of course people won't play experimenting decks.
Look my signature, I always experiment with decks, even on the stale meta, even before a new expansion which is about to release in a month and I never netdeck. Even I am playing this game like that, I am searching some successful brawl decks to evaluate my free brawl ticket and then, I never play brawliseum's with my real or in-game money. So it is intelligence like some other guys on above said. ;)
Memedeck-seeker. Always tries to build new decks. Hates tournements, streamers, netdecks and poor-o players. ah, but a tournement mode could be great !!!
What do you expect? In the Tavern Brawl people want to get as many decks as possible, why would they choose an experimental deck that might not work?
Same goes for ladder, be it standard or wild. If you are at rank 6 or rank 2 or anywhere close to the next rank floor, would you risk dropping 10 stars or would you play with a proven successful deck to get you to the next floor?
I feel there is quite some experimentation at the rank floors and in casual, just not in the competitve ranks. On the upside though, if you like to experiment yourself, you can just go to those formats and test your decks against a competition that you can expect to face for the next few weeks anyway. And if your deck doesn't perform against those you know that you have to improve it.
That is always how it works. I really wonder why people want to play new homebrew decks and expect to win against players who play to climb.
On the upside, because there are so many hunters right now, it will not be long before the next meta deck will show up which feasts on those. And maybe you will be the one who discovers it during your experimentation. Just might take a few more losses.
Very good description on the state of things and for sure that logic makes sense so i can'tbe mad about it. But wait...So...why are ppl also playing Spell Hunter in casual aswell? There's no reason for it is there?
What do you expect? In the Tavern Brawl people want to get as many decks as possible, why would they choose an experimental deck that might not work?
Same goes for ladder, be it standard or wild. If you are at rank 6 or rank 2 or anywhere close to the next rank floor, would you risk dropping 10 stars or would you play with a proven successful deck to get you to the next floor?
I feel there is quite some experimentation at the rank floors and in casual, just not in the competitve ranks. On the upside though, if you like to experiment yourself, you can just go to those formats and test your decks against a competition that you can expect to face for the next few weeks anyway. And if your deck doesn't perform against those you know that you have to improve it.
That is always how it works. I really wonder why people want to play new homebrew decks and expect to win against players who play to climb.
On the upside, because there are so many hunters right now, it will not be long before the next meta deck will show up which feasts on those. And maybe you will be the one who discovers it during your experimentation. Just might take a few more losses.
Very good description on the state of things and for sure that logic makes sense so i can'tbe mad about it. But wait...So...why are ppl also playing Spell Hunter in casual aswell? There's no reason for it is there?
I played casual yesterday from morning to night, there's no reason for it. The casual mode now is dead after the expansion released.
Day 2: 80% Odd Rogue, rest was Spell/Secret Midrange Hunters with Zul'jin.
Day 3 (including today morning): I've played 17 games in total, faced 3 Rogues (3 different decks - Pirate Tempo, Deathrattle and Kingsbane), 1 Odd Mage Mirror, one Quest Priest, rest were Hunters with only 1 (fukkn' one!) Midrange. Everything is Zul'jin. Zul'jin is life.
To sum it up - it's a great time to play Odd Elemental Mage, which I do, as I love the class and love the deck. At this moment I have a 100% winrate vs Zul'jin Hunters (the best strategy is simply NOT attacking with any minions and mow them down in fatigue - games are long, but easy, unless Frost Lich Jaina is in the bottom of the deck - as soon as you get her it's gg). But I imagine that people are raging because it's just mind blowing. It's like there's pretty much one god-damn deck on ladder, lol.
So since the release of RR i was expecting the good ol tradition of ppl experimenting new decks like they used to. Except i played Ranked Standard Tavern Brawl Casual Standard and Ranked Wild. 75% of my opponents were Hunters and always the new op spell hunter.
Is there a reason for it or are HS players just close minded? Im running Chief Inspector in every deck now. Thats sas but i guess im just gonna start running a deck that wins against Spell Hunter. Cant have fun experimenting cause nobody else is.
This is true.
People are waiting for some PRO that will discover broken decks so they can get it without efforts. Netdecking is what is ruining the first weeks of an expac.
Beast druid here!
Leper Gnome
Actually there is a ton of sperimentation going on right now. Im seeing new decks pop up by the day
I don't have the cards needed for spell hunter but i think other people who have and play the deck enjoy and it sort of is a new deck.
Lucky you...
I just see zoolock, evenlock, secret hunter, kingsbane rogue (wow 1 card changed)
Leper Gnome
Well why would people risk their gold on the brawl playing some weird flamboyant meme deck that won't work? They are not close minded, just intelligent, people don't like to mess around with their money, even if it's virtual money with no real value outside of the game.
Also people like to win, yes you play to have fun, but everyone likes to win... And today Zalae said on his stream: "On average an old deck with no new cards (or maybe 1 or 2 really strong ones) is way stronger than a day 1-2 new archetype deck".
I have Chief Inspector too, glad I'm not the only one!
I think Rastakhan did not change the meta alot, it just added lot of fun tools, it's up to people who wants to either play a safe deck or a new deck.
I like elementals and totems.
New what?
1. Copy n Paste secret hunter post nerf boomsday
2. Add Zuljin
3. O i have a new secret hunter woowowowoow
Leper Gnome
What do you expect? In the Tavern Brawl people want to get as many decks as possible, why would they choose an experimental deck that might not work?
Same goes for ladder, be it standard or wild. If you are at rank 6 or rank 2 or anywhere close to the next rank floor, would you risk dropping 10 stars or would you play with a proven successful deck to get you to the next floor?
I feel there is quite some experimentation at the rank floors and in casual, just not in the competitve ranks. On the upside though, if you like to experiment yourself, you can just go to those formats and test your decks against a competition that you can expect to face for the next few weeks anyway. And if your deck doesn't perform against those you know that you have to improve it.
That is always how it works. I really wonder why people want to play new homebrew decks and expect to win against players who play to climb.
On the upside, because there are so many hunters right now, it will not be long before the next meta deck will show up which feasts on those. And maybe you will be the one who discovers it during your experimentation. Just might take a few more losses.
I experiment with new decks in Casual, not on ladder or Brawliseum.
I did bring new decks to ladder for previous expansions but I just gave free wins, not doing that anymore.
Its a deck ftom K&C exp and Zuljin is the only new card. They dont even need to plsy zuljin most if the time. That deck is vrry refined and curve consistent that preys on less refined and new decks. Until the meta is discovered spell hunter will reign supreme.
I did tried Beast druid which seemed fun. Played a lot of different decks so i cant really have an opinion yet and not many time too. Faced spell hunters about 20 times. Im around 45% wr which isnt bad considering im running homebrew decks but just the sheet frequency of facing the same class is making my RR experience boring.
Sad cause its one of my fav exps but getting bored of it ONLY cause im mostly facing the same deck.
Cubelock still? With nothing new?
GTFO
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Because everyone's needs are different. Some feels successful while climbing ladder, some feels better when they discover viable decks, some feels happy when they succeed a meme, Some feels proud when they beat meta decks with homebrew ones.
This is why there are every kind of cards, memes, OPs, trashes, etc.
One way or another, there will be always whines which are right or not. The fact is that All will be enjoyed at the end of the day if they really likes to play.
Edit: And for the OP;
The experimenting players are less than you think and if you are on 10+ ranks you will not probably see them because they are losing ranks while experimenting decks and meta decks continues to climb.
and also, you can't expect people to try new things in brawl while its fee is much and reward is nothing under 5 wins. So, of course people won't play experimenting decks.
Look my signature, I always experiment with decks, even on the stale meta, even before a new expansion which is about to release in a month and I never netdeck. Even I am playing this game like that, I am searching some successful brawl decks to evaluate my free brawl ticket and then, I never play brawliseum's with my real or in-game money. So it is intelligence like some other guys on above said. ;)
Memedeck-seeker. Always tries to build new decks. Hates tournements, streamers, netdecks and poor-o players.
ah, but a tournement mode could be great !!!
Just play odd warrior to beat spell huntard
Very good description on the state of things and for sure that logic makes sense so i can'tbe mad about it. But wait...So...why are ppl also playing Spell Hunter in casual aswell? There's no reason for it is there?
I played casual yesterday from morning to night, there's no reason for it. The casual mode now is dead after the expansion released.
I like elementals and totems.
1. Not everyone knows how to build a deck for experimenting... Ohh wait. I mean like max 10% actually knows how to do that.
2. Experimenting costs a ton of money.
3. We have to wait 2 weeks to see if anything changes.
Honestly i just hope that the best decks vs spell hunter arent aggro or its gonna be zoolock odd pally odd rogue all over again
Well, for me it was like that:
Day 1: TONS of new decks, funny experiments.
Day 2: 80% Odd Rogue, rest was Spell/Secret Midrange Hunters with Zul'jin.
Day 3 (including today morning): I've played 17 games in total, faced 3 Rogues (3 different decks - Pirate Tempo, Deathrattle and Kingsbane), 1 Odd Mage Mirror, one Quest Priest, rest were Hunters with only 1 (fukkn' one!) Midrange. Everything is Zul'jin. Zul'jin is life.
To sum it up - it's a great time to play Odd Elemental Mage, which I do, as I love the class and love the deck. At this moment I have a 100% winrate vs Zul'jin Hunters (the best strategy is simply NOT attacking with any minions and mow them down in fatigue - games are long, but easy, unless Frost Lich Jaina is in the bottom of the deck - as soon as you get her it's gg). But I imagine that people are raging because it's just mind blowing. It's like there's pretty much one god-damn deck on ladder, lol.
I've no clue what I'm doing...
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