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Season 8 summed up: if you dont have plot armor you can get out! and Deus ex machina! 

This last episode just rubbed me the wrong way and i cant get it out my head how the writing just went to shit. 

I agree a lot of you when it came to most of the positive in the episode, the cleganes were great. 

I dont even care how this show ends anymore, i just cant wait for the books unless G.RR.M doesnt croaks.

Last note:  dont ring the bell.

This stinks like activisioncon more than blizzcon......i think the whole community can agree actiblizz killed last blizzcon. 

Excitement is low. They need something new fast and breathe of life.

Hearthstone and OW are fine. 

the older franchises are on fumes anymore.. 

if you dont draw the combo you will durdle till you get the pieces to hopefully win. Draw rng is always fun. 

I played it and unfortunately didn't have two nerubian unraveler, so its a tamer version of the deck lol. 

I dont see it being totally problematic, could it get worse? *shrug its not giant lock lets be real lol 

It is good but not OMG OPPRESSIVE NERF IT TO GROUND tier lol

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well um warrior hasn't been remotely tier 1 in several years. Essentially since war axe nerf the class hasnt been the same. 

Theyve always had good single target removal and okay board clears. If you want to nerf new cards within 2 days thats silly. 

Theres nothing wrong with warrior. 

 

 Odd Warrior would ahve been tier one if it wasn't for other infinite value death knights. It also has been doing fine without FWA (despite being able to run it)

I also argued  about nerfing 2 past cards, so I'm not entirely sure you bothered to read beyond the first few paragraphs.

You have also not really demonstrated which of my points are unreasonalble and instead opted for a "warrior dindu nuffin".

Please try again

I resend your statement bomb warrior is about as boring as freeze mage..yep neat and fun play. lol  

Should they be changed? SHRUG its hard to say yet...

we can all agree the classic set cards are problematic as shown with other classes, being nerfed or HOFed to the shadow realm. Brawl if changed would be bring the warrior mains to complete and utter OMG THE MA DECK IS BROKE WHY YOU HATE US. As a proud hunter player look at my buzzard........yet hyena is like reee look at me! 

You made a very thought out and solid argument and good points but i will agree to disagree on some points. 

There i tried again lol or do i have to wait for a dial tone and leave a message? 

if you are not aiming to be hyper competitive dont sweat over it. 

What matters is your having fun and playing the game.

IF you do want to improve there is MANY youtubers out there that can help. Regiskilbin has alot of great tools, helpful and good time on his twitch streams. Brian Kibler is also a good suggestion. 

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well um warrior hasn't been remotely tier 1 in several years. Essentially since war axe nerf the class hasnt been the same. 

Theyve always had good single target removal and okay board clears. If you want to nerf new cards within 2 days thats silly. 

Theres nothing wrong with warrior. 

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I love when people say blizzard is greedy. 95% sure its Activisions fault. 

This game will never be truly generous to its players lol  

Take your free packs when you get them haha 

 awww downvoted into my comment hid. lol

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Cards I will actually miss

Fire Fly - Best 1 drop ever made. You can't take this guy from me!

Defile - This is probably the single best card in the history of Hearthstone. It rewarded smart playing and there was never a time when I felt cheated when my opponent played it well. If only its big brother Spreading Plague wasn't so broken shoring up class deficiencies and taking forever to animate. ...or its useless twin sister Roll the Bones which is essentially spend 2 mana draw a card.

Cornered Sentry - I love so much about this card. It's essentially a combo card for Brawl but it can be played on its own for a 2 mana 2/3 taunt. Nice little raptors!

Gluttonous Ooze - So much better than your standard ooze weapon removal, this gives you armor and has 1 more health all for 1 more mana.

Stubborn Gastropod - This is such a powerful card with so many ways to play around it.

Vilespine Slayer - Assassinate with a 3/4 body but only if you could combo it. Nice.

Stitched Tracker - Sacrificing tempo in hunter is something that you don't usually want to do, but it also meant that you had a better chance to get the minion that you needed for that match.

Primalfin Totem - A good general purpose token generating card. It wasn't hard to deal with either making it never unfair.

Cards that went a bit too far but didn't completely break things

Tar Creeper - Power creeper of tasdingo for 1 less mana but without 2 attack on your turn. This card slowed aggro but didn't stop it completely.

Rin, the First Disciple - This card was absurdly fun to play with. She's much less scary then people seem to think she is; only really punishing the slowest of the slow control decks. 41 mana for 33/36 worth of stats and destroy your opponent's deck. I didn't think this would work but I was glad that it occasionally did.

The Lich King - An 8/8 taunt for 8 mana is useful most of the time, but the random cards that he gave you were why you used him. The fact that each card was useful on its own but only in certain situations meant that he was scary but still manageable.

Despicable Dreadlord - This really starts to get into unfair territory but it wasn't usually a single "I WIN" minion. Usually.

Direhorn Hatchling - Cute card that combined with its Matriarch is slightly overstatted.

Saronite Chain Gang - It's funny how a card designed to work with handbuff mechanics was nerfed so that it wouldn't work with handbuff mechanics.

Cards that can go straight to hell

Stonehill Defender - Perhaps I just hate this card for odd paladin players who use it for its battlecry of adding Sunkeeper Tarim to their hand.

Ultimate Infestation - This card killed ramp druid mechanics. Out of all cards to nerf, why was this never chosen?

every single death knight including Thrall, Deathseer - Deathstalker Rexxar and Frost Lich Jaina were probably the worst due to their ability to simply win games on their own. I won't miss you bastards. You were not fun to play against.

every single mana-cheat card from Kobolds and Catacombs - Seriously, what was up with the power level of this expansion? I think I'd be fine with removing the recruit mechanic from the game.

Baku the Mooneater and Genn Greymane - You two should be ashamed of yourselves. Especially you Baku, as you ruined Cold Blood.

 Wait, Thrall gets a special mention and not Guldan?

 right what did THRALL ever do to you!? lol i read this and like Thrall? not the demon lord raise all haha that we dealt with cudelock for months 

I will miss them....for 5 mins since i am just going to play them in Wild lol

Who in the show, with one episode left has arc that makes any sense?

Lets leave aside Dany because a lot of people have hated her for a long time, and are bending over backwards to defend this trainwreck of a mad queen plot. 

What was the point of Tyrion? to escape his cruel and evil family to serve another cruel and even queen, being a terrible judge of character and falling for every trap laid out?

What about Varys? He spent all this time carefully maneuvering in service of the realm, just to launch a clumsy coup attempt while Cersei is still on the throne, sending out letters stating "Jon is a real boy" from underneath Dany's nose?

Sansa learned how to navigate the subtleties of politics king King's landing and from Littlefinger in order to hide in a crypt, and then sneer about the final battle from 1000 miles away?

Jorah sacrificed everything for Dany, only for her to go crazy the next episode and spit on everything he thought of her? Greyworm become a homicidal maniac after being level headed and just all this time?

Jon just limps from scene to scene, whining like a bitch and hoping for another deus ex machina to save him.

Thematic garbage. 

Can we all agree that the writing over the last 3 and half seasons, especially the last 3 episodes, was insultingly bad? Both in terms of logical transitions between scenes, overall narrative, and character development? 

For anyone who is praising the Lannister resolution, I guess we're just going to forget about the whole Cersei dying prophecy.  We're going to lose any possibility that Jaime grew up in the least through the show, despite the obvious evidence to the contrary.  We're going to lose all sense of any intrigue with regards to Cersei being any kind of relevant villain.

The people who are loving this episode, for the most part, seem hung up on the cool plot point of Danaerys turning mad.  I agree, it could have been interesting, but you have to understand that most of the fan forums and YT theorists have taken it as unwritten canon that Dany is going insane at some point,, so we've been living with this presumption for years.

The problem is, they do it with one episode left in the entire show.  How much of a villain arc can Dany have in an episode-and-a-quarter of evil time?

All of this stems from the mother of all writing mistakes, the killing of the Night King so early and easily.  It's as if Sauron has been defeated, and the main conflict suddenly turns to a wrestling match between Smeagol and Sam for the fate of . . . nothing.  They should have done these things in reverse order, with Dany going insane and turning on folks, and then maybe redeeming herself during the Long Night or maybe not, depending on how the writing goes.

I fully understand that people who are casual fans who have not read the book will get their share of eye candy and a few superficial resolutions of the main story line.  I fully understand, not everyone is as concerned with all the secondary considerations.  I also ABSOLUTELY understand that the average consumer wouldn't know character development if it flayed him/her alive.  But there are millions of shows past and present that you can watch for competent, first-grade story-telling.  Everything about the early seasons of this show suggested they were going for something a little more complex here, and if that is the case, they failed miserably.

Interestingly enough, as I'm typing this I am finding several videos with cast members acting really uncomfortable when asked what they thought of the finale.  It appears that many of the actors, especially Dinklage and Harington, fully understand how let down some of the long-term fans are going to be.

I'm going to say this gently, and hope to not stir up stuff.  I'm just going to stick to one particular aspect of the politics:

Chuck Wendig tweets:  "Game of Thrones must really hate women."  and replies "GoT really misread the cultural moment"

Sansa saves John in the BoB

Arya and Brienne have the fanserviest fight ever

Dany saves John and his merry band north of the Wall.

Arya kills Littlefinger

Arya kills the Night King despite having zero to do with the entire White Walker story line

Dany blows up an entire fleet and wins against the (irrelevant, but hyped) Golden Company, essentially winning the GoT (so far).

But apparently, by having Cersei cry and Dany go mad, we are seeing a very inappropriate message when it comes to empowerment.

...and the last episode will be like...

(Sorry for poorest photoshopping)

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 This is beautiful, thank you.

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#WhineThread

How long will this go on?

I lul'd at the title unsure about it being a joke or not.

Then I lul'd again reading the text.

People on hearthpwn are ridiculous sometimes.

Nerf this, nerf that....

Another day in the life of Hearthstsone comunity!