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    posted a message on Big Minion Warrior [DoD]

    Thanks for the input! I'll have to consider some of the recommendations here. I typically play this deck is casual mode so I'm not overly concerned about making this as competitive as possible on ladder. With that said I still think there is some room for tinkering based on your suggestions. I know the deck is really at the mercy of your card draws and aggro can be brutally challenging to beat. 

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    posted a message on Big Minion Warrior [DoD]

    Just a fun deck I'm playing around with that is a little better now that Dr. Boom is back to 7 mana cost.

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    posted a message on Is Resurrect Unhealthy?
    Quote from Dunscot >>
    Quote from DSchu102285 >>
    Quote from Philopery >>

    Why do people in this/these threads keep saying “only viable deck the last few expansions”?

    I mean leave the discussion if you are a liar.
    Combo priest was nr. 1 deck in the pure SOU meta from day 1. Quest shaman and druid was strong but a priest deck was the strongest. This was also allover in grandmasters.

    Doom in the tomb saw the rise of shaman to the top but priest was still strong with n’zoth.

    so in short the last time priest was strong.. was the day before DoD dropped. Literally less than 40 days ago.

    I don’t know when it was strong before SOU but it was indisputably very strong very recently so no it does not deserve ress priest due to lack of power recently

    Doom in the Tomb was not an expansion therefore the statement about Priest being utter shit in past expansions is a completely valid statement. Sure, you could argue the meaning of "viable" but within the context of Quest Resurrect Priest in the current meta that definition applies to it being within a Tier 1 & 2 power level.  So the last time Priest had strong impact in the meta was Kobolds & Catacombs and Knights of the Frozen Throne. Tournament decks aren't the same as Constructed Metagame as people use different decks and tech options compared to competitive ladder.

    List of Metas that Priest was utter shit:

    https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-139/

    https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-132/

    https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-126/

    https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-114/

    https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-101/

    https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-88/

    List of Metas that Priest had a Tier 1 or 2 Deck:

    Kobolds & Catacombs: https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-73/

    Knights of the Frozen Throne: https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-59/

     

     

    I don't know if you even looked at 139, since Priest is at the top of Tier 2. But if that's not good enough for you, feel free to check out the other reports of that time.

    https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-145/

    https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-142/

    https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-138/

    There, Combo Priest being listed not only as a Tier 1 deck but temporarily even listed as the deck with the highest power score, the (arguably) best deck in Standard. If you look for it, you'll even find people (including some Tweet from Dean Ayala) about whether Priest should get nerfed. There was a lot of debate about Divine Spirit. You can say it wasn't the most popular one, which certainly is important for "having an impact", but don't act like it doesn't count for whatever reason. It's not like a control-oriented Priest build is the only one that matters.

    Why say that Priest was terrible in all the recent expansions, listing all the reports where it was bad, but leaving out the ones where the class was at the top because of "technically"? I mean, what do you even try to argue for? 

     

    I never said Priest has been terrible in all recent expansions. The list I selected was the first report of each expansion to illustrate that more often that not; Priest hasn't been in a great spot over the date range I listed. Sure, there are some instances where it had viable decks but not at the power level since Kobolds & Catacombs and Knights of the Frozen Throne.  <--- P.S. That's acknowledging Priest was at the top.

    Why should any of this matter? Well it's to put things in perspective about Quest Resurrect Priest and all the complaining about it.  There will be new cards coming into the meta soon that will potentially change the metagame anyways so let Priest have a deck that is relevant for a weeks.  There are many tech options and cards that counter the strategy by diluting their res pool and decks that can out-value it.  Instead of complaining about the deck (as their are multiple topics about this).. maybe, just maybe learn to play a deck that can counter it.  And if you are an aggro player get over the fact the deck was created to counter your strategy. 

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    posted a message on Is Resurrect Unhealthy?
    Quote from Philopery >>

    Why do people in this/these threads keep saying “only viable deck the last few expansions”?

    I mean leave the discussion if you are a liar.
    Combo priest was nr. 1 deck in the pure SOU meta from day 1. Quest shaman and druid was strong but a priest deck was the strongest. This was also allover in grandmasters.

    Doom in the tomb saw the rise of shaman to the top but priest was still strong with n’zoth.

    so in short the last time priest was strong.. was the day before DoD dropped. Literally less than 40 days ago.

    I don’t know when it was strong before SOU but it was indisputably very strong very recently so no it does not deserve ress priest due to lack of power recently

    Doom in the Tomb was not an expansion therefore the statement about Priest being utter shit in past expansions is a completely valid statement. Sure, you could argue the meaning of "viable" but within the context of Quest Resurrect Priest in the current meta that definition applies to it being within a Tier 1 & 2 power level.  So the last time Priest had strong impact in the meta was Kobolds & Catacombs and Knights of the Frozen Throne. Tournament decks aren't the same as Constructed Metagame as people use different decks and tech options compared to competitive ladder.

    List of Metas that Priest was utter shit:

    https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-139/

    https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-132/

    https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-126/

    https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-114/

    https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-101/

    https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-88/

    List of Metas that Priest had a Tier 1 or 2 Deck:

    Kobolds & Catacombs: https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-73/

    Knights of the Frozen Throne: https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-59/

     

     

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    posted a message on Is Resurrect Unhealthy?
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    Quote from Edgy_Teenager >>
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    play any deck with that card, and come here to apologize.

    easy to sell as overpowered using best scenario ever.

    first is 9 mana, second you have to be good to set up a deck that doesn't fuck it up, third you have to be good enough to play minion before without fucking it up.

    try. then if you reach legend just with that card, i will say you are right.

     You miss the point entirely.  It's not overpowered, I agree.  However, it's just plain unfun.  That's the biggest issue.

     Define "Fun". Quest Druid fits in QUITE NICELY with Quest Resurrect Priest strategy of stalling the early game. Consequently it also allows you out-value your opponent in the long run, which I do find to be very enjoyable.

    This topic also lacks CONTEXT... ask yourself why Quest Resurrect Priest is even a thing to begin with... It was created to counter Face Hunter. Team 5 wants a stable aggro in the meta which is why Face Hunter didn't get nerfed. If you don't like playing against Quest Resurrect Priest you should take into account all the Face Hunters and ask yourself what really sucks. Maybe it's the community of people playing face hunter that sucks, Team 5 can't predict and play test a meta on the scale of millions of players. If the majority of people decide to play face hunter maybe the meta problem shouldn't be pigeonholed into the question of whether or not the only competitive priest deck in the past few expansions is truly "unhealthy".

    Playing a deck that counters Quest Resurrect Priest feels like any other Control vs. Control match in the past. Sure, it's going to be a long game but whoever can out-value their opponent is going to win.  Within this context I think the deck is healthy. It does its job against aggro, it can be countered by other control decks AND it can very easily lose to COMBO DECKS.

     In this very thread, a few replies up, I told you I play Wild.  Nobody plays quest res priest there, just an even more degenerate version of it, without the quest.  Meet Barnes, Eternal Servitude, Obsidian Statue, Shadow Essence, Kel'thuzad, etc (and you can get multiple Kel'thuzads which is just a game over, but not hard to pull off for them)

     Yea, no one cares about wild.

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    posted a message on Is Resurrect Unhealthy?
    Quote from Edgy_Teenager >>
    Quote from mortoz >>

    play any deck with that card, and come here to apologize.

    easy to sell as overpowered using best scenario ever.

    first is 9 mana, second you have to be good to set up a deck that doesn't fuck it up, third you have to be good enough to play minion before without fucking it up.

    try. then if you reach legend just with that card, i will say you are right.

     You miss the point entirely.  It's not overpowered, I agree.  However, it's just plain unfun.  That's the biggest issue.

     Define "Fun". Quest Druid fits in QUITE NICELY with Quest Resurrect Priest strategy of stalling the early game. Consequently it also allows you out-value your opponent in the long run, which I do find to be very enjoyable.

    This topic also lacks CONTEXT... ask yourself why Quest Resurrect Priest is even a thing to begin with... It was created to counter Face Hunter. Team 5 wants a stable aggro in the meta which is why Face Hunter didn't get nerfed. If you don't like playing against Quest Resurrect Priest you should take into account all the Face Hunters and ask yourself what really sucks. Maybe it's the community of people playing face hunter that sucks, Team 5 can't predict and play test a meta on the scale of millions of players. If the majority of people decide to play face hunter maybe the meta problem shouldn't be pigeonholed into the question of whether or not the only competitive priest deck in the past few expansions is truly "unhealthy".

    Playing a deck that counters Quest Resurrect Priest feels like any other Control vs. Control match in the past. Sure, it's going to be a long game but whoever can out-value their opponent is going to win.  Within this context I think the deck is healthy. It does its job against aggro, it can be countered by other control decks AND it can very easily lose to COMBO DECKS.

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    posted a message on Is Resurrect Unhealthy?

    You could build a deck that fucks with it's res pool like Disguised Toast countering Res Priest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LukgEPaMtU0

    Or Build any deck that can out-value it...

    I just beat this Priest deck with Quest Druid. I played 2 Ysera Unleashed, 1 Ysera and never once had to use my Hidden Oasis cards.  My opponent just didn't have the resources to deal with so much value.

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    posted a message on Is Resurrect Unhealthy?
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    Quote from DSchu102285 >>

    Well it's obvious the people complaining about this deck are playing aggro decks that lose to it and don't want to do anything but play their aggro decks. Otherwise there are decks that can counter this with tech, value and control options.  Of course the irony in all of this is that the popularity of Quest Resurrect Priest can be attributed to the very same people complaining about it... which is to say they are perpetuating it's very existence when they continue to contribute to the plethora of hyper aggro decks being played.

     Didn't know Malygos Druid and Reno Quest Mage were aggro.  Also I'm playing wild, so quest res priest isn't a thing.  Just res priest.

    Perhaps you should reevaluate your strategy, tech options and performance.... 

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    posted a message on Is Resurrect Unhealthy?

    Well it's obvious the people complaining about this deck are playing aggro decks that lose to it and don't want to do anything but play their aggro decks. Otherwise there are decks that can counter this with tech, value and control options.  Of course the irony in all of this is that the popularity of Quest Resurrect Priest can be attributed to the very same people complaining about it... which is to say they are perpetuating it's very existence when they continue to contribute to the plethora of hyper aggro decks being played.

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    posted a message on Is Resurrect Unhealthy?

    I have tried Quest Resurrect Priest and I don't really care for the strategy. I prefer other controls decks from Warrior, Shaman and Warlock over Quest priest any day.

    With that said, it's retarded to bash players who play this deck as Team 5 has consistently made Priest utter shit in the past few expansions.   Is it the players fault that this is the only good Priest deck which was designed by Team 5? Is it the players fault for the plethora of face hunters that prompted this deck to become prominent to begin with?

    You can tech against this deck to disrupt it's strategy however that would requite you to stop net decking Tier 1 & 2 aggro decks to actually counter this deck. 

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    posted a message on Res Priest Will Be More OP
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    Res Priest is terribly boring, a deck with no proposal other than to stall out and then it fails miserably to value decks...

    Keep in mind that this deck's existence is due to the popularity of very aggressive decks like Face Hunter was not created to counter value decks, combo decks etc...

    Since Warlock, Pirate & Galakrond Warrior are getting nerfs it will slow down some of these other less aggressive decks to some extent, however, since Face Hunter will remain untouched you can probably expect this deck to still see play.

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    posted a message on Res Priest Will Be More OP

    It makes for a long game but it feels great when you completely ruin their Res pool and win the game.

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    posted a message on Is Resurrect Unhealthy?

    Looking at HSReplay you will notice how many aggro decks are Tier 1 & 2. The only effective control deck right now that can counter this aggressive meta is Quest Resurrect Priest. Since there are so many face hunters, pirate warriors etc.. what did you honestly expect?

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    posted a message on Is Resurrect Unhealthy?

    Perhaps some of you would have more "fun" playing against this deck if you learned how to counter it.  One way to beat Quest Priest is to build a board and DON'T attack right away. Most of the time the Quest Priests don't have any early game other than healing, so if you wait until you can deal a larger amount of damage in a turn you can stall out their plan and rush them down.

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    posted a message on Is Resurrect Unhealthy?

    You can thank Face Hunter and Galakrond Warrior players for the popularity of Quest Resurrect Priest as both those decks have the worst match up against this Priest deck according to HSReplay.

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