Is Prince Keleseth relevant in wild? I want to craft him, but knowing that he'll only see play for the next 4 month in standard, I don't want to craft a card that will be relegated to meme status in wild. Currently my wild decks aren't strong enough to see competitive play, but I plan to change that as my collection grows.
Is Prince Keleseth relevant in wild? I want to craft him, but knowing that he'll only see play for the next 4 month in standard, I don't want to craft a card that will be relegated to meme status in wild. Currently my wild decks aren't strong enough to see competitive play, but I plan to change that as my collection grows.
I didn't see him last season at all. Between rank 15-5.
Encountered several Quest / Hakkar priests of late in ranked play, I'm wondering if Hakkar should be bumpted to Tier 3? HSReplay isn't showing a great winrate for the deck however it doesn't seem to have the specific deck I've encountered here and there.
Encountered several Quest / Hakkar priests of late in ranked play, I'm wondering if Hakkar should be bumpted to Tier 3? HSReplay isn't showing a great winrate for the deck however it doesn't seem to have the specific deck I've encountered here and there.
Lately I'm facing an Aggro/Midrange Rogue that runs Leeroy as a finisher (Cold Blood and Shadowstep) and Gral, the Shark as a (I think) tutor for minions.
This is the only legendary I have crafted from the set. I was on the fence as I thought he was a Rogue card at first. Upon realizing he was open for all classes it was an insta-buy for any more aggressive decks really that aren't otherwise restricted.
I got the warlock card that adds copies of itself, think it's a bat? as my free legendary, and I got the rogue shark legendary from my free packs.
I like the shark, but it is very vulnerable to a lot of effects right now, I don't think it's a viable choice for laddering due to the amount of counters. unless things like silence and polymorph vanish, I don't think it can be all that competitive unfortunately.
I'm not sure at all about the warlock card. it seems expensive, I'm not seeing any synergy jumping out at me right away for it. do you have any ideas?
Lately I'm facing an Aggro/Midrange Rogue that runs Leeroy as a finisher (Cold Blood and Shadowstep) and Gral, the Shark as a (I think) tutor for minions.
Gral, the Shark is tier 3, and tempo rogue is mentioned. I am not sure if it should go any higher.
Keleseth only appears in ZooLock in Wild, that's a Tier 2-3 deck.
Not a core element in the Wild meta, but he's a good card in the Wild power level too.
are you just talking about wild, or standard as well? kele is still quite prevalent in standard I believe. Still in rogue decks at least.
Ye, the discussion was about wild. He is still indeed a powerhouse in standard, even for slower decks that can go light on the 2-slot for one reason or another.
This is the only legendary I have crafted from the set. I was on the fence as I thought he was a Rogue card at first. Upon realizing he was open for all classes it was an insta-buy for any more aggressive decks really that aren't otherwise restricted.
I got the warlock card that adds copies of itself, think it's a bat? as my free legendary, and I got the rogue shark legendary from my free packs.
I like the shark, but it is very vulnerable to a lot of effects right now, I don't think it's a viable choice for laddering due to the amount of counters. unless things like silence and polymorph vanish, I don't think it can be all that competitive unfortunately.
I'm not sure at all about the warlock card. it seems expensive, I'm not seeing any synergy jumping out at me right away for it. do you have any ideas?
I also opened up both. The bat is pretty garbage, you can try him in handbuff zoo but your'e still going to just be playing a worse (but more fun) heal zoo.
I actually really like Gral. Almost no one runs Spellbreaker, so the only things you really have to worry about are Polymorph and Hex. Polymorph is only played in Big Spell Mage (which isn't that common) and Hex. As long as you're not facing too many even shamans, I'd say its a great card for any non-odd rogue deck.
- Zul`jin allows me to play hunter in standard mode and i guess he will stay relevant even after the rotation in april.
- Zilliax is versatile (neutral) and a nice addition to many decks but won`t allow me to play a new deck.
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I have a question: Why is Thekal in tier1, but Jan'alai is in tier2? They are both good class cards that fit really well into some specific decks, but they are not the cards that make those decks work. Thekal is good in OTK Paladin, but he is not the best card of that deck and Jan'alai is good in Big Spell Mage or in Odd Mage (both versions, the control and the midrange), but she is also not the best card of those decks. They are both great additions to those decks, but not essential. So why is Thekal in tier1 and Jan'alai is in tier2? (I don't know in which tier they should be, but I feel like they should be in the same tier.)
I have a question: Why is Thekal in tier1, but Jan'alai is in tier2? They are both good class cards that fit really well into some specific decks, but they are not the cards that make those decks work. Thekal is good in OTK Paladin, but he is not the best card of that deck and Jan'alai is good in Big Spell Mage or in Odd Mage (both versions, the control and the midrange), but she is also not the best card of those decks. They are both great additions to those decks, but not essential. So why is Thekal in tier1 and Jan'alai is in tier2? (I don't know in which tier they should be, but I feel like they should be in the same tier.)
I'm also not sold on Thekal being that good. He is kinda like Keleseth, but the upside is not that high early on to have a bad late game draw. I think both are good tier 2 cards.
I have a question: Why is Thekal in tier1, but Jan'alai is in tier2? They are both good class cards that fit really well into some specific decks, but they are not the cards that make those decks work. Thekal is good in OTK Paladin, but he is not the best card of that deck and Jan'alai is good in Big Spell Mage or in Odd Mage (both versions, the control and the midrange), but she is also not the best card of those decks. They are both great additions to those decks, but not essential. So why is Thekal in tier1 and Jan'alai is in tier2? (I don't know in which tier they should be, but I feel like they should be in the same tier.)
I'm also not sold on Thekal being that good. He is kinda like Keleseth, but the upside is not that high early on to have a bad late game draw. I think both are good tier 2 cards.
They are both insane on curve and they get worse as the game goes on, but as you said, Keleseth has a higher impact and more high-rolly than Thekal. (Although Keleseth is a tier1 card imo, even decks like Big Spell Mage play him sometimes without much synergy and he is still good in those decks because he is that uch better than any other 2 drop in the game.)
I have a question: Why is Thekal in tier1, but Jan'alai is in tier2? They are both good class cards that fit really well into some specific decks, but they are not the cards that make those decks work. Thekal is good in OTK Paladin, but he is not the best card of that deck and Jan'alai is good in Big Spell Mage or in Odd Mage (both versions, the control and the midrange), but she is also not the best card of those decks. They are both great additions to those decks, but not essential. So why is Thekal in tier1 and Jan'alai is in tier2? (I don't know in which tier they should be, but I feel like they should be in the same tier.)
It is a close call, but Thekal's decks do slightly better, and he is also played a bit more, and is more versatile. I think he is a better craft.
If a mage with him becomes a consensus Tier 1 deck, Jan'alai will be promoted. There are lots of comparable cards in Tier 2 (like The Soularium and Dr. Boom, Mad Genius, they are all very strong!
I’ve already crafted Keleseth, Leeroy and Zilliax and to be honest I do regret crafting Keleseth as I never draw him and I have been thinking of crafting Thalnos as rogue is probably my favourite class. Which legendary would probably be the card I should craft next, I would prefer either neutral,classic or year of the Raven. I know that Genn and Baku are good choices but one of the ways I ruined my old account was when I crafted Baku without checking if I had enough odd cards to make a good deck. I would also prefer a card which doesn’t need a whole deck revolving around it as I’m F2P and I’m just looking to have fun with as many fun decks as possible, I’d rather have 5 mediocre decks than like 2 meta deck.
Btw what are your thoughts one either Edwin, Hagatha, Al’Akir or Darius as they seem like really fun cards.
I’ve already crafted Keleseth, Leeroy and Zilliax and to be honest I do regret crafting Keleseth as I never draw him and I have been thinking of crafting Thalnos as rogue is probably my favourite class. Which legendary would probably be the card I should craft next, I would prefer either neutral,classic or year of the Raven. I know that Genn and Baku are good choices but one of the ways I ruined my old account was when I crafted Baku without checking if I had enough odd cards to make a good deck. I would also prefer a card which doesn’t need a whole deck revolving around it as I’m F2P and I’m just looking to have fun with as many fun decks as possible, I’d rather have 5 mediocre decks than like 2 meta deck.
Btw what are your thoughts one either Edwin, Hagatha, Al’Akir or Darius as they seem like really fun cards.
Thalnos is a solid long term craft, but will likely not have a big impact on your winrate.
I will be really surprised if Genn Greymane and Baku the Mooneater do not stay powerhouses until the rotation in 2020 and Zilliax fits in almost every deck. I would chose between those and Edwin VanCleef. If you consider Wild, Patches the Pirate is great in Rogue too. Long term, Wild is cheaper than standard...
Is Prince Keleseth relevant in wild? I want to craft him, but knowing that he'll only see play for the next 4 month in standard, I don't want to craft a card that will be relegated to meme status in wild. Currently my wild decks aren't strong enough to see competitive play, but I plan to change that as my collection grows.
I didn't see him last season at all. Between rank 15-5.
Thank you.
Encountered several Quest / Hakkar priests of late in ranked play, I'm wondering if Hakkar should be bumpted to Tier 3? HSReplay isn't showing a great winrate for the deck however it doesn't seem to have the specific deck I've encountered here and there.
I'll check it out!
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Lately I'm facing an Aggro/Midrange Rogue that runs Leeroy as a finisher (Cold Blood and Shadowstep) and Gral, the Shark as a (I think) tutor for minions.
Keleseth only appears in ZooLock in Wild, that's a Tier 2-3 deck.
Not a core element in the Wild meta, but he's a good card in the Wild power level too.
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I just crafted Mojomaster Zihi
This is the only legendary I have crafted from the set. I was on the fence as I thought he was a Rogue card at first. Upon realizing he was open for all classes it was an insta-buy for any more aggressive decks really that aren't otherwise restricted.
I got the warlock card that adds copies of itself, think it's a bat? as my free legendary, and I got the rogue shark legendary from my free packs.
I like the shark, but it is very vulnerable to a lot of effects right now, I don't think it's a viable choice for laddering due to the amount of counters. unless things like silence and polymorph vanish, I don't think it can be all that competitive unfortunately.
I'm not sure at all about the warlock card. it seems expensive, I'm not seeing any synergy jumping out at me right away for it. do you have any ideas?
are you just talking about wild, or standard as well? kele is still quite prevalent in standard I believe. Still in rogue decks at least.
Gral, the Shark is tier 3, and tempo rogue is mentioned. I am not sure if it should go any higher.
Ye, the discussion was about wild. He is still indeed a powerhouse in standard, even for slower decks that can go light on the 2-slot for one reason or another.
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I also opened up both. The bat is pretty garbage, you can try him in handbuff zoo but your'e still going to just be playing a worse (but more fun) heal zoo.
I actually really like Gral. Almost no one runs Spellbreaker, so the only things you really have to worry about are Polymorph and Hex. Polymorph is only played in Big Spell Mage (which isn't that common) and Hex. As long as you're not facing too many even shamans, I'd say its a great card for any non-odd rogue deck.
Unpopular opinion: Rogue is OP
Zul'jin or Zilliax ?
- Zul`jin allows me to play hunter in standard mode and i guess he will stay relevant even after the rotation in april.
- Zilliax is versatile (neutral) and a nice addition to many decks but won`t allow me to play a new deck.
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Hey guys!
I have a question:
Why is Thekal in tier1, but Jan'alai is in tier2?
They are both good class cards that fit really well into some specific decks, but they are not the cards that make those decks work.
Thekal is good in OTK Paladin, but he is not the best card of that deck and Jan'alai is good in Big Spell Mage or in Odd Mage (both versions, the control and the midrange), but she is also not the best card of those decks. They are both great additions to those decks, but not essential.
So why is Thekal in tier1 and Jan'alai is in tier2? (I don't know in which tier they should be, but I feel like they should be in the same tier.)
Firebat made a video few days ago about Thekal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR9WYSOjbT4
I'm also not sold on Thekal being that good. He is kinda like Keleseth, but the upside is not that high early on to have a bad late game draw. I think both are good tier 2 cards.
Always expect the unexpectable!
They are both insane on curve and they get worse as the game goes on, but as you said, Keleseth has a higher impact and more high-rolly than Thekal. (Although Keleseth is a tier1 card imo, even decks like Big Spell Mage play him sometimes without much synergy and he is still good in those decks because he is that uch better than any other 2 drop in the game.)
It is a close call, but Thekal's decks do slightly better, and he is also played a bit more, and is more versatile. I think he is a better craft.
If a mage with him becomes a consensus Tier 1 deck, Jan'alai will be promoted. There are lots of comparable cards in Tier 2 (like The Soularium and Dr. Boom, Mad Genius, they are all very strong!
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I never understood the appeal of Mojomaster Zihi or why it's considered Tier 1 until I saw this:
I’ve already crafted Keleseth, Leeroy and Zilliax and to be honest I do regret crafting Keleseth as I never draw him and I have been thinking of crafting Thalnos as rogue is probably my favourite class. Which legendary would probably be the card I should craft next, I would prefer either neutral,classic or year of the Raven. I know that Genn and Baku are good choices but one of the ways I ruined my old account was when I crafted Baku without checking if I had enough odd cards to make a good deck. I would also prefer a card which doesn’t need a whole deck revolving around it as I’m F2P and I’m just looking to have fun with as many fun decks as possible, I’d rather have 5 mediocre decks than like 2 meta deck.
Btw what are your thoughts one either Edwin, Hagatha, Al’Akir or Darius as they seem like really fun cards.
Thalnos is a solid long term craft, but will likely not have a big impact on your winrate.
I will be really surprised if Genn Greymane and Baku the Mooneater do not stay powerhouses until the rotation in 2020 and Zilliax fits in almost every deck. I would chose between those and Edwin VanCleef. If you consider Wild, Patches the Pirate is great in Rogue too. Long term, Wild is cheaper than standard...
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