[Legend #2] - Discolock Guide - S30
- Last updated Sep 12, 2016 (Karazhan)
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Wild
- 28 Minions
- 2 Spells
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Discardlock
- Crafting Cost: 1200
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 9/2/2016 (Karazhan)
- Zananananan
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Total Deck Rating
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Hey guys!
Zananananan here, I'm a german Hearthstone player and I'm currently playing for http://www.sfd-gaming.com/. I just wanted to share my Discardlock with you. I played Patron Warrior on the first day to hit rank 4. On the 2nd day the last Karazhan wing came out. I built this deck and hit Legend with it.
Proof: http://imgur.com/a/f9CYS
Patron Warrior: http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/626706-legend-2-patron
I offer coachings for 15,00 €/hour. If you are interested, please leave me a message on Hearthpwn.
Guide:
This deck is usually favored against other Aggro decks, you want to trade as much as possible. Go face against Midrange or Control decks. The key is to realize when you have to go all in and when you can afford to play around AOE.
Let's talk about the placement first. Most of the time it doesn't matter, but it can still win or lose you some games. You always want to maximize the efficiency of Dire Wolf Alpha.
- In general you want big minions, minions with deathrattle or taunt on the side and small minions in the middle.
- Knife Juggler has to be on the side (Taunt or deathrattle doesn't matter). You don't want to trade with him.
- Imp Gang Boss on the left. The Imp's will spawn in the middle.
Mulligan:
I'll talk about the cards you always want to keep first. No matter what you are playing against. After that I'll take a look at specific matchups.
Flame Imp > Voidwalker, Possessed Villager, Malchezaar's Imp > Abusive Sergeant
If you have Silverware Golem and Soulfire or Darkshire Librarian you can consider keeping both. You have a 33% Chance to discard the Silverware Golem on turn 2. If you don't have the coin and you don't have a 1 drop throw everything away. It's okay to play Abusive Sergeant on turn 1 if you don't have something else. I usually don't like keeping Dark Peddler, only keep it if you already have a good hand. Keep Dire Wolf Alpha if you have the coin and 2 1 drops.
Druid:
favored - Darkshire Councilman is fine if you have a 1 drop.
Hunter:
favored - Keep Imp Gang Boss if you a 1 drop. I don't like playing Voidwalker on turn 1 if they have the coin. You still have to play it if you don't have something else. They can coin out Huge Toad. Keep Dire Wolf Alpha if you have Possessed Villager. Keep Houndmaster and Unleash the Hounds in mind.
Tempo Mage:
favored - Keep Imp Gang Boss with a 1 drop, it's good against the Flamewaker. You don't have to play around Flamestrike, most lists aren't running it.
Freeze Mage:
heavily unfavored - Darkshire Councilman if you have a 1 drop. You have to go all in on him having no AOE.
N'Zoth Paladin:
even - Play a bit about Consecration. Darkshire Councilman again if you have 1 drop. Be careful about Doomsayer.
Aggro Paladin:
favored - Keep Imp Gang Boss with a 1 drop.
Priest:
even - Darkshire Councilman is good but it's better to bait for Shadow Word: Pain before playing it. Keep Excavated Evil in mind.
Rogue:
even - Keep Darkshire Councilman or Imp Gang Boss if you have a 1 drop. Avoid playing a 2 health minion on turn 2 if he has the coin (SI:7 Agent).
Aggro/Midrange Shaman:
heavily favored - Imp Gang Boss if you have a 1 drop. Beware Lightning Storm. Soulfire is strong against his Totem Golem.
Control Shaman:
heavily unfavored - Try to find an explosive start, keep Darkshire Councilman with a 1 drop. Kill Wrath of Air Totem.
Zoo:
even - Imp Gang Boss is insane in this matchup. Keep Dire Wolf Alpha if you have Possessed Villager, you can kill Flame Imp or Dark Peddler. You always want to clear his board, he can't use Abusive Sergeant, Power Overwhelming or Defender of Argus this way.
Renolock:
favored - Keep Darkshire Councilman. Don't play around AOE, they only have 1 Demonwrath and 1 Hellfire for early game.
Dragon Warrior:
even - I don't like Voidwalker because of Alexstrasza's Champion. Soulfire is good against Frothing Berserker, Fierce Monkey and Blackwing Corruptor.
Control Warrior:
unfavored - Keep Darkshire Councilman if you have a 1 drop. I like Possessed Villager on turn 1 and coin Darkshire Councilman or Imp Gang Boss turn 2. It plays around Fiery War Axe. Be aware of Brawl, Revenge and Ravaging Ghoul.
Questions
Why aren't you running other discard cards like Succubus or Tiny Knight of Evil?
I wanted to make the deck as consistent as possible.
No Power Overwhelming?
I don't think you need it. Soulfire is good enough.
You are awesome. Thank you for your support!
coaching in hearthstone lol
This deck is unbelievably fun. I'm 10-2 so far starting at Rank 20.
Why is this deck unfavored against a freeze mage? Wasn't the old zoo favored or at least even in that matchup?
To my knowledge, Zoo has always been unfavored against Freeze mage. Any form of Zoo warlock has to have a board to deal enough damage to put the opposing hero in range of a lethal combo (e.g. Leeroy Jenkins + Power Overwhelming). Freeze mage has many tools at her disposal to remove the warlock's board at multiple stages in the game, such as Doomsayer on turn 2, Frost Nova + Doomsayer on turn 5, Blizzard on turn 6. At any point in the game, if the mage is able to successfully clear the warlock's board, she has likely bought herself enough time for a lethal setup. Also, if the warlock loses his board, he needs to use Life Tap to look for ways to refill his board, which brings the mage closer to a lethal setup. Even if the mage doesn't draw AOE when she needs it, she has Ice Block and Ice Barrier which can buy a turn or two to either find the AOE she needs or set up a lethal setup. Freeze mage actually performs very well against most aggro decks, with the exception of Aggro Shaman and Pirate Warrior due to the amount of spell + weapon based damage these decks have.
I know right? It's the best joke I've heard all day.
Coaching???? hahahah ahah hahaha
''I offer coachings for 10€/hour.''
LUL what? All you have to do is just google for some proper minion placement. You don't need an hour long coaching, much less for 10 euro. EU greediness /facepalm
You are not favored against Reno at all. (I can bet $100, if you don't trust me)
Add me and we will do bo21 ;)
It's a smooth deck that has some risks but for good rewards. OP opted out of Succubus for Darkshire Librarian for the extra draw power and without RNG discards like Fist of Jaraxxus it adds some consistency to the deck.
Tiny Knight of Evil can be a good replacement but I've been following this deck using OP's standard list with success. The real winner is Silverware Golem. The value you can churn out with other discard effects is great. Have a Soulfire in hand with it? Take a shot for a free 3/3. Or even get the dream with discarding 2 of them via Doomguard on turn 5 for a huge gain in board and value.
not very fun to play its either you win fast or you die slow
I wasn't too sure about the archetype at first but i have to say I am pretty impressed with the results I had with the deck!!
I had a ton of fun playing with it and i do recommend for you guys to try it out, it's awesome
This was painful to watch. Misplay after misplay. You absolutely deserved to lose that second match.
Lost twice to thief rogue and twice to shaman (mid and control). The biggest problem is that I got rekt at all 4 games without any chance of winning. Seems like I'm a really shitty player. FeelsBadMan
I played the first few games like Zoolock but that's not right. Lost each one of them.
I do think this deck adds another layer of skill to the already complex Zoo-style, as you now also have to calculate your chances of discarding certain cards in your hand against potential gains.
It's mighty complicated but I do find it both great fun and interesting - and if it clicks the power is insane.
I just got beat by this deck, I feel so disgusting.!!!
Those stupid imps that draw them cards need to go asap if they are on board or they will out value your hand/deck quickly.
Hallo Zananananan :)
Really cool deck my german fellow! I wanted to play two Forbidden Ritual in the deck with two Knife Jugglers and two Darkshire Councilmans, so I decided to cut down one of the Flame Imps and one Dire Wolf Alpha. So far won all of my 4 test games and the changes payed off in a few situations! Some gameplay footage I recorded today: VOD DiscardLock Ranked
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haha xD
Deck is too inconsistent, it won't be a part of the meta once shit settles.