Hearthpwn

Quote from Drageren >>

If we talking about stats. wr vs druids is terrible. something like 30% that's mean - insta loose from the beggining and very bad vs other aggro classes. Don't forget, if your deck will be popular opps can use their combo counter (new Rat). Looks like it will be tier 3 deck.

 Yeah that's right. Druid is one of the most painful class which malygos hunter can face but;

I don't agree Hecklebot statement. You can still win without your combo. Zul'jin brings 4 5/5 with rush back and adds 2 more to your hand. Basically refills you in long games and Your opponent mostly became out of boardclears. Hecklebot doesn't counter this deck because the deck's power isn't just Malygos or Alexstrasza. If they bring both with Hecklebot you have Vereesa Windrunner. There are 3 finishers, not 2 or 1. That makes you care less to lose them. I have so much games that I drawn Malygos and Alexstrasza before able to draw Jepetto Joybuzz but still won. so that statement is just false.

You were right about Druids tho. Their treant armies are just so crowded. Sometimes you just can't answer those all.

Quote from user-100133260 >>

Quote from Renoroc >>

You don't need Alexstraza and it's a great deck

 Why not tho. I see her as another option for a cheap high damage card. If i draw vereesa and malygos before jepetto at least i will get a 1 mana deal 10+ damage

 at first version of mine have no alexstrazsa and it still worked without her and some guys hecklebot'ed my Malygos on the board and destroyed it instantly, I had put alex the deck. Actually You can win without Alex + Malygos. But deck became spell hunter like that. Not a combo one :) The hype is hiding under the ability to otk. :) I mean, I had killed a warrior with 25 armor at one turn once. It feels so well when you can do that. Well that doesn't happen always but You can have your lucky games, you know. :)

Quote from Tamika_Olivia >>

Quote from IlBelTia >>

Netdecking is wrong in every aspect, not just in casual. But there's no way to avoid it.

Wrong? How is it wrong?

 read #97, you will find the answer. If you can't, well there's no way to save you.

Quote from user-100133260 >>

Quote from Almaniarra >>

My list is here;

[RoS] Malygos Hunter Spell Hunter Deck by Almaniarra - Apr 3, 2019 View Deck String Export to BBCode Export to Cockatrice Export to MarkDown Export to Html Clone this deck
Minion (4) 1x Alexstrasza 1x Jepetto Joybuzz 1x Malygos 1x Vereesa Windrunner	Ability (25) 1x Master's Call 2x Arcane Shot 2x Unleash the Beast 1x Wing Blast 2x Unleash the Hounds 2x Animal Companion 2x Deadly Shot 2x Explosive Trap 2x Marked Shot 2x Rapid Fire 2x Secret Plan 2x Hunter's Mark 2x Kill Command 1x Multi-Shot	Playable Hero (1) 1x Zul'jin
Loading Collection

but I don't know what Gnawlie uses. There's a Kripp's one too. I don't like to play with more minions, with Halazzi for example.

Actually I have a thread here you can check quotes there to see what people thinks to replace some cards. :)

https://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/class-discussion/hunter/231960-ros-malygos-hunter

 Thank you. I think i will try the deck this evening and see what my results will be. I dont think i will regret it if it will suck like i didnt regreted it when i DE’d golden Anduin DK to craft Arfus and DE several legendary minions to craft Hemet and Quest back in Un Goro. 

 

 If you will try this one keep that in mind Druids can be a little problem, That's why I changed something with 2x Explosive Traps. Keep a Secret Plan + Explosive Trap always in starting hand. If Druids will be nerfed at some point I will change traps with something different. :)

My list is here;

I am playing with it in rank 5. It made me climb to 3 but I dropped to 5 again with my Plot Twist deck. lol

Actually, if you have all of the cards but just those 3 legendaries, you can also use them in other decks too. Malygos + Alexstrasza are in a lot of decks not just in Malygos Hunter.

Well, the decision is yours at last but Alex + Maly can be used in bunch of decks. Can't speak about Jepetto Joybuzz. :)

I crafted Joybuzz for this deck since the deck is my first theorycraft before the expansion and I could say that it worths. :)

Quote from Kuhuuni >>

I‘ve played 100 - 150 games in RoS between rank 10-4. After  the first, short wave of Warriors the opponents are quite diverse for me. Mainly tempo rogues, hunter, warriors and a few mages, token druids, big/control shaman.  But priest/warlock are almost non existing, this is a bit sad. But the class frequency is changing so fast. My impression, the people are still experimenting and enjoying the game. Looks fine for me. 

 well, you didn't face me then. I'm playing almost full warlock (And some malygos hunters) since the beginning of the year with Plot Twist at rank 5 to 3. Well It couldn't carry me to legend but it is fun. :)

Quote from T1p1t1p >>

Quote from Ven_gyr >>

Idk, I have 12-0 w-l vs Rogues as a Priest. For some reason priest is the class I meet the least. I think it is disgustingly strong and is only third due to bad players.

 What do you mean? Bad players only plays as Priests and not as Rogues? C'mon. That statistics reflects the real power of a Class just because of its huge numbers. I picked Priest and never offered that 4-7 body, Potion of Madness or Dragon's Potion. That deck was weak with such a low value. You need key cards then you are good. When you don't have them, then you are probably in a very bad shape.

P.s. And the fact that Priest is "only third" does not mean it is bad. It is 3rd out of 9 Classes. With Rogue undoubtedly the first, and Warlock undoubtedly the Second.

P. p. s. Paladin is my best class in Arena right now (and always was). But it doesn't mean that it is the best Class overall. I just like to play Paladin and know how to draft properly and more importantly - how to draft fitting my style of play. I think personal preferences plays an important role in your success. But the real rankings is there and they kinda missing your subjective feelings, like, at all.

 yeah you said the key here and I wanted to quote it to shine more.

Personal preferences, knowledge or experiences (call what you wish) is more important than rank list of classes. If you really don't know how to draft and pilot Rogue, it doesn't really matter it is at #1 or #9.

Yes, it is like every other meta.

Don't let those whiners kill your joy. Really don't care about whine threads. If you are happy with your experiments and experiences, who cares what other guys think ?

The worst thing a person can do is whine about something because that's popular. I mean, some people likes always what it is popular. If they actually liked the new expansion, they might say that "no I don't like neither" because of the community.

If you really like, don't care the community. Community of any game is trash right now. They are doing something without purpose. They like if the crowd likes, They don't like if crowd doesn't like.


And yes, I liked the expansion and the meta. I also liked Rastakhan too. I always like new cards because they bring some new experiment areas to the game.

Quote from Wurstfett >>

What is he talking about? What deck does he mean?

Sorry, so far I mostly played Wild and the deck I see there the most is Big Priest.

 I guess he meant token druid, or maybe murloc shaman or even carpet zoo . It could be refer to them generally also. :)

Well, OP; you could try Warlock if you need board clears. You can try Control Warrior if you need more staple deck, if you need fast wins you can become new aggro player and hope that you will highroll the opponent.

Do you really think those aggro players have %100 winrates ? Don't fool yourself, There is nothing as a %100 winrate in the hearthstone. They also lose. They are in rank20 to legend.

Ok, I'm also frustrating when i play against a murloc shaman 3 games in a row but well they lose also. Sometimes I win sometimes i don't. Don't care so much. There are some techs against those decks. Try to use them. Warrior have plenty of removals, Warlock has also. Try these two classes if you want more control-based deck.

Edit: Ah well, I forgot about control shaman because I don't have its core cards and couldn't try. That can be a solution too like @FanOfValeera said.

Quote from SwedishOxxx >>

Why in the fuckest of fucks would Blizzard give away OLD packs in the special quest!? I mean I don't want that old shit when a new expansion is released, I want the new cards...

 well, I would be happy if I could unpack a Lord Godfrey from ww pack since I won't open anymore. Guess what? 40 dust pack as always. :(

Quote from Cocoduf >>

Quote from Almaniarra >>

Quote from Tuscarora87 >>

People don't yet realize how strong RoS expansion is. RoS could be capable to somewhat shake the previous "unshakeable" (mammoth, raven) meta (unlike TBP and RR).

Again, stats are fair and often overcosted; but effects (although thematically already seen) and forced swingy synergies are insane.

Just add Patches to certain Tempo Rouge builds and it would be good as... or even better then Wild Pirate Warrior (because of tempo cheat).

The power level feel is relative, but Token Druid seems as strong as Odd Paladin, in both old and new circumstances.

Rng from lackeys and numerous 'discover' effects guarantees swingy and unpredictable turns. That's their plan (everything can succeed or fail at any stage) for the game to balance itself. We'll see how it ends up.

Another measure of managing the game from developers' and company's side are forced archetypes. A lot of builds are obvious and autopiloted.

 

 

Did you ever read what I wrote ?

Thanks for your general speak of Meta but there are already so much meta threads in the forum.

I've opened this thread for older archetypes like Gonk Druid, Shark Rogue etc. If you have word about them, we all will be pleased but please go discuss these in another meta threads.

And try to read whole thread next time. Threads don't consist of the titles. Why some people just answers the title ?

Edit: And I have edited the title to prevent next misunderstandings.

 

Who do you think you are ? So much bitterness.

You oppened this thread asking if anyone has successfully tried any deck powered by the year of the Raven sets in this meta. Their point is that RoS archetypes are probably way too strong to be ignored (which isn't that much of a reach really), implying that people would have a hard time trying what you asked. No need to act like a brat.

 Sorry if i've sound like bitter but I was not. It's not my main language and some word decisions causes that probably. I just didn't wanted this thread to turn into general meta discussion thread like others because there are too much of them already.

Again, sorry if i disturb anyone.

Quote from Infirc >>

I've been playing a beltrug Handlock using dr morrigan and an emeriss Midrange hunter, my handlock has had a really good matchup against aggro decks, it destroys token druid, murloc shamman and hunter decks that try to go for early wins, but loses miserably against bomb warrior and has problems with infinite value decks.

My emeriss midrange hunter was just some meme build idea around using emeriss on minions that i dire frenzied and ended up being pretty good against control decks, but is weak to token druid.
these are the codes:

Handlock:
### Beltruglock
# Class: Warlock
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Dragon
#
# 2x (1) Mortal Coil
# 1x (2) Acidic Swamp Ooze
# 2x (2) Doomsayer
# 1x (2) Plot Twist
# 1x (2) Sunfury Protector
# 2x (3) Earthen Ring Farseer
# 1x (3) Sense Demons
# 2x (3) Shadow Bolt
# 2x (4) Hellfire
# 2x (4) Twilight Drake
# 2x (5) Rotten Applebaum
# 1x (5) Zilliax
# 2x (6) Aranasi Broodmother
# 1x (6) Siphon Soul
# 1x (7) Tunnel Blaster
# 1x (8) Deranged Doctor
# 1x (8) Dr. Morrigan
# 1x (8) Fel Lord Betrug
# 1x (8) Twisting Nether
# 1x (9) Lord Jaraxxus
# 2x (12) Mountain Giant
#
AAECAcn1AgyJBtsG3Ab7BooHzAjA7ALN/AKggAPamwOJnQOBoAMJigGSB7YH4QeNCMQI8wzF8wLalgMA
#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone

Emeriss Midrange hunter

### Mid-range
# Class: Hunter
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Dragon
#
# 2x (1) Springpaw
# 2x (2) Acidic Swamp Ooze
# 2x (2) EVIL Cable Rat
# 2x (2) Scavenging Hyena
# 1x (2) Vicious Scalehide
# 2x (3) Animal Companion
# 1x (3) Eaglehorn Bow
# 2x (3) Kill Command
# 2x (3) Unleash the Hounds
# 1x (4) Arcane Fletcher
# 1x (4) Dire Frenzy
# 2x (4) Houndmaster
# 2x (4) Marked Shot
# 2x (5) Baited Arrow
# 1x (5) Halazzi, the Lynx
# 1x (6) Savannah Highmane
# 2x (6) Unleash the Beast
# 1x (10) Emeriss
# 1x (10) Zul'jin
#
AAECAR8I7Qn+DNbsAvbsAsn4ApuFA+OLA+iWAwuoArUDigfrB9sJgQqghQOiigO0kQPmlgP5lgMA
#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone

 

 I would like to try some Dragon/beast hunter too. I had tried a build with Marsh Drake + Candleshot last year. It was a good addition but well most of the older top tier decks punished it so hard and now we dont have Candleshot.

Can you provide an opportunity to play Emeriss with this deck ? I mean that for not only reaching turn 10. Do you have enough cards in hand at t10 ? I guess we need to find draw and minion produce for this deck to work.

Well we don't know yet a deck like that but if there is a Madame Lazul Priest, This card will see play in the deck actually. With maybe Chameleos ?

I mean you can see what they have and you can try to disrupt them. That's a thing I guess ?

Quote from Kovachut >>

Quote from Almaniarra >>

"Well Plot Twist is for that situation after all" - I know, but, please, make a difference between not getting a heal, but having a good starting hand, and not getting a heal and having bad cards at the start of the game. Against tempo rogues I am forced to clear their board ASAP (I have tools like Hellfire, Shadow Bolt for this task), but because I wasn't able to deal with the pirates and the wolves fast enough in that match, I took too much damage match and the healing I got from shuffling the Broodmothers couldn't compensate the loss. Plot twist came way too late.

"btw portal keeper version of that deck is bad i think" - I would like to disagree. I tested the Portal Keepers and I really like them, because they are somewhat cheap. I know that their body is not the most optimal one (it would have been better as a 3/4), but 2/2s with Rush I get from them are really nice. They help, when I'm behind the board and/or need to do some trades.

As for your deck - I don't have Dorian or Betrug. My list looks like this:

Everyday I'm Shufflin' Unknown Deck by Kovachut - Apr 13, 2019 View Deck String Export to BBCode Export to Cockatrice Export to MarkDown Export to Html Clone this deck
Minion (18) 1x Arch-Villain Rafaam 1x Harrison Jones 1x Lord Godfrey 1x Zilliax 1x Augmented Elekk 2x Doomsayer 1x Acidic Swamp Ooze 2x Hecklebot 2x Phantom Militia 2x Portal Keeper 2x Aranasi Broodmother 2x Rotten Applebaum	Ability (12) 1x The Soularium 2x Twisting Nether 2x Plot Twist 1x Shriek 1x Siphon Soul 1x Sense Demons 2x Hellfire 2x Shadow Bolt
Loading Collection

and it's really good in all honesty. I recently added the militia and it feels like a great addition.

If you ask me, you should definitely add a single copy of Sense Demons in your deck, in order to fetch Betrug/Broodmothers. I don't know why you run the Archivist, when you can go infinite with the Elekks anyway. The Elekk Plot twist combo is not a meme imho. It's just a really greedy play, which is being punished by fast strategies (that's why I run only 1 Elekk). But against slower decks being able to shuffle strong board clears like Twisting Nether and Lord Godfrey and going infinite is just game-winning.

 

 Well I don't have Lord Godfrey that really hurts, tbh. and most of the time I am using Plot Twist with dorian and Betrug so I can't use it for elekks and most of the time there was no time for that against those druids and rogues. I'm dying to replace them with godfrey and rafaam but waiting meta to settle down. and for being infinite you always need second twist and elekk holded and that's way sooo greedy imo. Dorian helps with 1/1 deathrattle: 0/5 taunts and applebaum + deranged doctors' heals. I can't use doomsayers because of dorian issues. it appears as 1/1 and clears my board and thanks to that combo i don't even need sense demons.

I guess our decks are different versions of promising archetype. :)

If I could unpack a Khadgar, I want to try a portal Mage with Portal Keepers. it sounds fun when you consider that Khadgar summons another rush demon. :)

and If I could get Lord Godfrey and Arch-Villain Rafaam, I will give your deck a try for sure. Lord Godfrey seem staple in that deck. Honestly, It is also staple in my deck too but I couldn't play warlock at last year (because I hate cubelocks + Void Lords) so I didn't craft Godfrey but hell ! In this expansion warlock is really so funny. I was a fan of warlocks before knc, and now it is again my 3rd fav class. :)

Quote from Tuscarora87 >>

People don't yet realize how strong RoS expansion is. RoS could be capable to somewhat shake the previous "unshakeable" (mammoth, raven) meta (unlike TBP and RR).

Again, stats are fair and often overcosted; but effects (although thematically already seen) and forced swingy synergies are insane.

Just add Patches to certain Tempo Rouge builds and it would be good as... or even better then Wild Pirate Warrior (because of tempo cheat).

The power level feel is relative, but Token Druid seems as strong as Odd Paladin, in both old and new circumstances.

Rng from lackeys and numerous 'discover' effects guarantees swingy and unpredictable turns. That's their plan (everything can succeed or fail at any stage) for the game to balance itself. We'll see how it ends up.

Another measure of managing the game from developers' and company's side are forced archetypes. A lot of builds are obvious and autopiloted.

 

 

Did you ever read what I wrote ?

Thanks for your general speak of Meta but there are already so much meta threads in the forum.

I've opened this thread for older archetypes like Gonk Druid, Shark Rogue etc. If you have word about them, we all will be pleased but please go discuss these in another meta threads.

And try to read whole thread next time. Threads don't consist of the titles. Why some people just answers the title ?

Edit: And I have edited the title to prevent next misunderstandings.