This thread will have half of questions and half of suggestions.
Firstly, I need to say that;
Almost all of us claimed that the power level will decrease after we saw Genn Greymane/Baku the MooneaterDoomguard, Divine Favor, Naturalize rotations. Also we guessed that because of normal rotations. My hype is done (almost but I am also wondering) and I wonder how the old archetypes and cards will impact the meta.
and I want to suggest the ones who couldn't open so much RoS packs to try your old cards which couldn't make any impact on the Genn/Baku meta.
and I want to ask did anyone tried any old deck in this meta. I mean, it is ok if you try Healadin with new cards for example or did Anyone try Attack Druid ? Shark Rogue maybe ?
I mean, I know power level seems like it doesn't decrease with those Tempo Rogues, Bomb Warriors, Token druids or any popular decks by now but I really wonder if anyone could try older unsuccessful archetypes.
I will try them myself in time of course but If you tried so far, please comment here. I will also share my experiments and experiences under this thread. :)
Memedeck-seeker. Always tries to build new decks. Hates tournements, streamers, netdecks and poor-o players. ah, but a tournement mode could be great !!!
I decided to try handdruid again because Keeper Stalladris and Acornbearer give you IN HAND value, and it has a lot in common with the now popular Token Druid lists. It honestly feels like a pretty good deck right now.
I have been trying some kind of fat warrior and it is not perfect, but seems to be working pretty well. I gain more armor than bombs are in my deck so... It is a nice coubter.
Also I tend to have good win rates against other classes too!
(Cant share the deck as I am on the phone right now and play on PC)
Also Gonk Druid kinda works, but still dont feel my deck is good enough
People don't yet realize how strong RoS expansion is. RoS could be capable to somewhat shake the previous "unshakeable" (mammoth, raven) meta (unlike TBP and RR).
Again, stats are fair and often overcosted; but effects (although thematically already seen) and forced swingy synergies are insane.
Just add Patches to certain Tempo Rouge builds and it would be good as... or even better then Wild Pirate Warrior (because of tempo cheat).
The power level feel is relative, but Token Druid seems as strong as Odd Paladin, in both old and new circumstances.
Rng from lackeys and numerous 'discover' effects guarantees swingy and unpredictable turns. That's their plan (everything can succeed or fail at any stage) for the game to balance itself. We'll see how it ends up.
Another measure of managing the game from developers' and company's side are forced archetypes. A lot of builds are obvious and autopiloted.
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“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
People don't yet realize how strong RoS expansion is. RoS could be capable to somewhat shake the previous "unshakeable" (mammoth, raven) meta (unlike TBP and RR).
Again, stats are fair and often overcosted; but effects (although thematically already seen) and forced swingy synergies are insane.
Just add Patches to certain Tempo Rouge builds and it would be good as... or even better then Wild Pirate Warrior (because of tempo cheat).
The power level feel is relative, but Token Druid seems as strong as Odd Paladin, in both old and new circumstances.
Rng from lackeys and numerous 'discover' effects guarantees swingy and unpredictable turns. That's their plan (everything can succeed or fail at any stage) for the game to balance itself. We'll see how it ends up.
Another measure of managing the game from developers' and company's side are forced archetypes. A lot of builds are obvious and autopiloted.
Did you ever read what I wrote ?
Thanks for your general speak of Meta but there are already so much meta threads in the forum.
I've opened this thread for older archetypes like Gonk Druid, Shark Rogue etc. If you have word about them, we all will be pleased but please go discuss these in another meta threads.
And try to read whole thread next time. Threads don't consist of the titles. Why some people just answers the title ? Edit: And I have edited the title to prevent next misunderstandings.
Memedeck-seeker. Always tries to build new decks. Hates tournements, streamers, netdecks and poor-o players. ah, but a tournement mode could be great !!!
People don't yet realize how strong RoS expansion is. RoS could be capable to somewhat shake the previous "unshakeable" (mammoth, raven) meta (unlike TBP and RR).
Again, stats are fair and often overcosted; but effects (although thematically already seen) and forced swingy synergies are insane.
Just add Patches to certain Tempo Rouge builds and it would be good as... or even better then Wild Pirate Warrior (because of tempo cheat).
The power level feel is relative, but Token Druid seems as strong as Odd Paladin, in both old and new circumstances.
Rng from lackeys and numerous 'discover' effects guarantees swingy and unpredictable turns. That's their plan (everything can succeed or fail at any stage) for the game to balance itself. We'll see how it ends up.
Another measure of managing the game from developers' and company's side are forced archetypes. A lot of builds are obvious and autopiloted.
Did you ever read what I wrote ?
Thanks for your general speak of Meta but there are already so much meta threads in the forum.
I've opened this thread for older archetypes like Gonk Druid, Shark Rogue etc. If you have word about them, we all will be pleased but please go discuss these in another meta threads.
And try to read whole thread next time. Threads don't consist of the titles. Why some people just answers the title ? Edit: And I have edited the title to prevent next misunderstandings.
Who do you think you are ? So much bitterness.
You oppened this thread asking if anyone has successfully tried any deck powered by the year of the Raven sets in this meta. Their point is that RoS archetypes are probably way too strong to be ignored (which isn't that much of a reach really), implying that people would have a hard time trying what you asked. No need to act like a brat.
I've been playing a beltrug Handlock using dr morrigan and an emeriss Midrange hunter, my handlock has had a really good matchup against aggro decks, it destroys token druid, murloc shamman and hunter decks that try to go for early wins, but loses miserably against bomb warrior and has problems with infinite value decks.
My emeriss midrange hunter was just some meme build idea around using emeriss on minions that i dire frenzied and ended up being pretty good against control decks, but is weak to token druid. these are the codes:
Handlock: ### Beltruglock # Class: Warlock # Format: Standard # Year of the Dragon # # 2x (1) Mortal Coil # 1x (2) Acidic Swamp Ooze # 2x (2) Doomsayer # 1x (2) Plot Twist # 1x (2) Sunfury Protector # 2x (3) Earthen Ring Farseer # 1x (3) Sense Demons # 2x (3) Shadow Bolt # 2x (4) Hellfire # 2x (4) Twilight Drake # 2x (5) Rotten Applebaum # 1x (5) Zilliax # 2x (6) Aranasi Broodmother # 1x (6) Siphon Soul # 1x (7) Tunnel Blaster # 1x (8) Deranged Doctor # 1x (8) Dr. Morrigan # 1x (8) Fel Lord Betrug # 1x (8) Twisting Nether # 1x (9) Lord Jaraxxus # 2x (12) Mountain Giant # AAECAcn1AgyJBtsG3Ab7BooHzAjA7ALN/AKggAPamwOJnQOBoAMJigGSB7YH4QeNCMQI8wzF8wLalgMA # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
Emeriss Midrange hunter
### Mid-range # Class: Hunter # Format: Standard # Year of the Dragon # # 2x (1) Springpaw # 2x (2) Acidic Swamp Ooze # 2x (2) EVIL Cable Rat # 2x (2) Scavenging Hyena # 1x (2) Vicious Scalehide # 2x (3) Animal Companion # 1x (3) Eaglehorn Bow # 2x (3) Kill Command # 2x (3) Unleash the Hounds # 1x (4) Arcane Fletcher # 1x (4) Dire Frenzy # 2x (4) Houndmaster # 2x (4) Marked Shot # 2x (5) Baited Arrow # 1x (5) Halazzi, the Lynx # 1x (6) Savannah Highmane # 2x (6) Unleash the Beast # 1x (10) Emeriss # 1x (10) Zul'jin # AAECAR8I7Qn+DNbsAvbsAsn4ApuFA+OLA+iWAwuoArUDigfrB9sJgQqghQOiigO0kQPmlgP5lgMA # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
People don't yet realize how strong RoS expansion is. RoS could be capable to somewhat shake the previous "unshakeable" (mammoth, raven) meta (unlike TBP and RR).
Again, stats are fair and often overcosted; but effects (although thematically already seen) and forced swingy synergies are insane.
Just add Patches to certain Tempo Rouge builds and it would be good as... or even better then Wild Pirate Warrior (because of tempo cheat).
The power level feel is relative, but Token Druid seems as strong as Odd Paladin, in both old and new circumstances.
Rng from lackeys and numerous 'discover' effects guarantees swingy and unpredictable turns. That's their plan (everything can succeed or fail at any stage) for the game to balance itself. We'll see how it ends up.
Another measure of managing the game from developers' and company's side are forced archetypes. A lot of builds are obvious and autopiloted.
Did you ever read what I wrote ?
Thanks for your general speak of Meta but there are already so much meta threads in the forum.
I've opened this thread for older archetypes like Gonk Druid, Shark Rogue etc. If you have word about them, we all will be pleased but please go discuss these in another meta threads.
And try to read whole thread next time. Threads don't consist of the titles. Why some people just answers the title ? Edit: And I have edited the title to prevent next misunderstandings.
Who do you think you are ? So much bitterness.
You oppened this thread asking if anyone has successfully tried any deck powered by the year of the Raven sets in this meta. Their point is that RoS archetypes are probably way too strong to be ignored (which isn't that much of a reach really), implying that people would have a hard time trying what you asked. No need to act like a brat.
Sorry if i've sound like bitter but I was not. It's not my main language and some word decisions causes that probably. I just didn't wanted this thread to turn into general meta discussion thread like others because there are too much of them already.
I've been playing a beltrug Handlock using dr morrigan and an emeriss Midrange hunter, my handlock has had a really good matchup against aggro decks, it destroys token druid, murloc shamman and hunter decks that try to go for early wins, but loses miserably against bomb warrior and has problems with infinite value decks.
My emeriss midrange hunter was just some meme build idea around using emeriss on minions that i dire frenzied and ended up being pretty good against control decks, but is weak to token druid. these are the codes:
Handlock: ### Beltruglock # Class: Warlock # Format: Standard # Year of the Dragon # # 2x (1) Mortal Coil # 1x (2) Acidic Swamp Ooze # 2x (2) Doomsayer # 1x (2) Plot Twist # 1x (2) Sunfury Protector # 2x (3) Earthen Ring Farseer # 1x (3) Sense Demons # 2x (3) Shadow Bolt # 2x (4) Hellfire # 2x (4) Twilight Drake # 2x (5) Rotten Applebaum # 1x (5) Zilliax # 2x (6) Aranasi Broodmother # 1x (6) Siphon Soul # 1x (7) Tunnel Blaster # 1x (8) Deranged Doctor # 1x (8) Dr. Morrigan # 1x (8) Fel Lord Betrug # 1x (8) Twisting Nether # 1x (9) Lord Jaraxxus # 2x (12) Mountain Giant # AAECAcn1AgyJBtsG3Ab7BooHzAjA7ALN/AKggAPamwOJnQOBoAMJigGSB7YH4QeNCMQI8wzF8wLalgMA # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
Emeriss Midrange hunter
### Mid-range # Class: Hunter # Format: Standard # Year of the Dragon # # 2x (1) Springpaw # 2x (2) Acidic Swamp Ooze # 2x (2) EVIL Cable Rat # 2x (2) Scavenging Hyena # 1x (2) Vicious Scalehide # 2x (3) Animal Companion # 1x (3) Eaglehorn Bow # 2x (3) Kill Command # 2x (3) Unleash the Hounds # 1x (4) Arcane Fletcher # 1x (4) Dire Frenzy # 2x (4) Houndmaster # 2x (4) Marked Shot # 2x (5) Baited Arrow # 1x (5) Halazzi, the Lynx # 1x (6) Savannah Highmane # 2x (6) Unleash the Beast # 1x (10) Emeriss # 1x (10) Zul'jin # AAECAR8I7Qn+DNbsAvbsAsn4ApuFA+OLA+iWAwuoArUDigfrB9sJgQqghQOiigO0kQPmlgP5lgMA # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
I would like to try some Dragon/beast hunter too. I had tried a build with Marsh Drake + Candleshot last year. It was a good addition but well most of the older top tier decks punished it so hard and now we dont have Candleshot.
Can you provide an opportunity to play Emeriss with this deck ? I mean that for not only reaching turn 10. Do you have enough cards in hand at t10 ? I guess we need to find draw and minion produce for this deck to work.
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Memedeck-seeker. Always tries to build new decks. Hates tournements, streamers, netdecks and poor-o players. ah, but a tournement mode could be great !!!
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Hello Fellow Hearthpwners.
This thread will have half of questions and half of suggestions.
Firstly, I need to say that;
Almost all of us claimed that the power level will decrease after we saw Genn Greymane/Baku the Mooneater Doomguard, Divine Favor, Naturalize rotations. Also we guessed that because of normal rotations. My hype is done (almost but I am also wondering) and I wonder how the old archetypes and cards will impact the meta.
and I want to suggest the ones who couldn't open so much RoS packs to try your old cards which couldn't make any impact on the Genn/Baku meta.
and I want to ask did anyone tried any old deck in this meta. I mean, it is ok if you try Healadin with new cards for example or did Anyone try Attack Druid ? Shark Rogue maybe ?
I mean, I know power level seems like it doesn't decrease with those Tempo Rogues, Bomb Warriors, Token druids or any popular decks by now but I really wonder if anyone could try older unsuccessful archetypes.
I will try them myself in time of course but If you tried so far, please comment here. I will also share my experiments and experiences under this thread. :)
Memedeck-seeker. Always tries to build new decks. Hates tournements, streamers, netdecks and poor-o players.
ah, but a tournement mode could be great !!!
I decided to try handdruid again because Keeper Stalladris and Acornbearer give you IN HAND value, and it has a lot in common with the now popular Token Druid lists. It honestly feels like a pretty good deck right now.
Decklist: https://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1264789-handdruid-is-back-ft-keeper-stalladris-and
I have been trying some kind of fat warrior and it is not perfect, but seems to be working pretty well. I gain more armor than bombs are in my deck so... It is a nice coubter.
Also I tend to have good win rates against other classes too!
(Cant share the deck as I am on the phone right now and play on PC)
Also Gonk Druid kinda works, but still dont feel my deck is good enough
People don't yet realize how strong RoS expansion is. RoS could be capable to somewhat shake the previous "unshakeable" (mammoth, raven) meta (unlike TBP and RR).
Again, stats are fair and often overcosted; but effects (although thematically already seen) and forced swingy synergies are insane.
Just add Patches to certain Tempo Rouge builds and it would be good as... or even better then Wild Pirate Warrior (because of tempo cheat).
The power level feel is relative, but Token Druid seems as strong as Odd Paladin, in both old and new circumstances.
Rng from lackeys and numerous 'discover' effects guarantees swingy and unpredictable turns. That's their plan (everything can succeed or fail at any stage) for the game to balance itself. We'll see how it ends up.
Another measure of managing the game from developers' and company's side are forced archetypes. A lot of builds are obvious and autopiloted.
“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
Did you ever read what I wrote ?
Thanks for your general speak of Meta but there are already so much meta threads in the forum.
I've opened this thread for older archetypes like Gonk Druid, Shark Rogue etc. If you have word about them, we all will be pleased but please go discuss these in another meta threads.
And try to read whole thread next time. Threads don't consist of the titles. Why some people just answers the title ?
Edit: And I have edited the title to prevent next misunderstandings.
Memedeck-seeker. Always tries to build new decks. Hates tournements, streamers, netdecks and poor-o players.
ah, but a tournement mode could be great !!!
I read your opening post and still felt a need to contribute to it with such a post of mine.
“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
Who do you think you are ? So much bitterness.
You oppened this thread asking if anyone has successfully tried any deck powered by the year of the Raven sets in this meta. Their point is that RoS archetypes are probably way too strong to be ignored (which isn't that much of a reach really), implying that people would have a hard time trying what you asked. No need to act like a brat.
I've been playing a beltrug Handlock using dr morrigan and an emeriss Midrange hunter, my handlock has had a really good matchup against aggro decks, it destroys token druid, murloc shamman and hunter decks that try to go for early wins, but loses miserably against bomb warrior and has problems with infinite value decks.
My emeriss midrange hunter was just some meme build idea around using emeriss on minions that i dire frenzied and ended up being pretty good against control decks, but is weak to token druid.
these are the codes:
Handlock:
### Beltruglock
# Class: Warlock
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Dragon
#
# 2x (1) Mortal Coil
# 1x (2) Acidic Swamp Ooze
# 2x (2) Doomsayer
# 1x (2) Plot Twist
# 1x (2) Sunfury Protector
# 2x (3) Earthen Ring Farseer
# 1x (3) Sense Demons
# 2x (3) Shadow Bolt
# 2x (4) Hellfire
# 2x (4) Twilight Drake
# 2x (5) Rotten Applebaum
# 1x (5) Zilliax
# 2x (6) Aranasi Broodmother
# 1x (6) Siphon Soul
# 1x (7) Tunnel Blaster
# 1x (8) Deranged Doctor
# 1x (8) Dr. Morrigan
# 1x (8) Fel Lord Betrug
# 1x (8) Twisting Nether
# 1x (9) Lord Jaraxxus
# 2x (12) Mountain Giant
#
AAECAcn1AgyJBtsG3Ab7BooHzAjA7ALN/AKggAPamwOJnQOBoAMJigGSB7YH4QeNCMQI8wzF8wLalgMA
#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
Emeriss Midrange hunter
### Mid-range
# Class: Hunter
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Dragon
#
# 2x (1) Springpaw
# 2x (2) Acidic Swamp Ooze
# 2x (2) EVIL Cable Rat
# 2x (2) Scavenging Hyena
# 1x (2) Vicious Scalehide
# 2x (3) Animal Companion
# 1x (3) Eaglehorn Bow
# 2x (3) Kill Command
# 2x (3) Unleash the Hounds
# 1x (4) Arcane Fletcher
# 1x (4) Dire Frenzy
# 2x (4) Houndmaster
# 2x (4) Marked Shot
# 2x (5) Baited Arrow
# 1x (5) Halazzi, the Lynx
# 1x (6) Savannah Highmane
# 2x (6) Unleash the Beast
# 1x (10) Emeriss
# 1x (10) Zul'jin
#
AAECAR8I7Qn+DNbsAvbsAsn4ApuFA+OLA+iWAwuoArUDigfrB9sJgQqghQOiigO0kQPmlgP5lgMA
#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
Sorry if i've sound like bitter but I was not. It's not my main language and some word decisions causes that probably. I just didn't wanted this thread to turn into general meta discussion thread like others because there are too much of them already.
Again, sorry if i disturb anyone.
I would like to try some Dragon/beast hunter too. I had tried a build with Marsh Drake + Candleshot last year. It was a good addition but well most of the older top tier decks punished it so hard and now we dont have Candleshot.
Can you provide an opportunity to play Emeriss with this deck ? I mean that for not only reaching turn 10. Do you have enough cards in hand at t10 ? I guess we need to find draw and minion produce for this deck to work.
Memedeck-seeker. Always tries to build new decks. Hates tournements, streamers, netdecks and poor-o players.
ah, but a tournement mode could be great !!!