I am going to test this today for sure. I'll come back and let you know my thoughts and if I had success with any changes that I test.
I have been running a different Spell Hunter deck that has been very fun. I still don't feel it is optimized yet, but don't underestimate the power of Arcane Fletcher and Halazzi, the Lynx.
Bomb Warrior is definatley fucked. The player base of this game have no one but themselves to blame for this game becoming shit so quickly. They find a busted deck and swarm to it like fucking flies on shit.
they don't even get bored to play against that much mirror matches. What a pitiful and boring life they have I really wonder.
All of them fucks my Plot Twist plan. Fuck them all. And blizzard, Fuck you too...
C'mon, can't you make that bombs at least 2-3 damage so we could play some shitty but funny control decks in casual maybe ? ...
To be honest give the meta time to settle and stop whine... its just the second day.
it's not a whine i guess, All want to know or guess nerfs because of extra dust. That's all.
I mean, I don't care meta after 1 month of new expansion but now I care, because I'm a collector and want to craft as much as i can and dusts from nerfed cards helps much because you can hold the card if you have extra copies :)
yeah I meant free random legendary. (in the past we have gotten an early card and then a card on the day the cards came out as well)
I mentioned him further down anyway. ha ha.
Not really? The only free early legendary in the past was Marin the Fox. Otherwise it has just been the one random class legendary. I'd take this over a random class legendary because Vargoth is actually good, compared to hireek the bat.
we got 1 legendary weapon aswell with Marin.
yeah that's what I thought as well. I guess they're cutting back on the freebies now.
well, I really don't care :) just corrected the mistake :)
yeah I meant free random legendary. (in the past we have gotten an early card and then a card on the day the cards came out as well)
I mentioned him further down anyway. ha ha.
Not really? The only free early legendary in the past was Marin the Fox. Otherwise it has just been the one random class legendary. I'd take this over a random class legendary because Vargoth is actually good, compared to hireek the bat.
Yeah I know that but couldn't get it from packs and want to wait a bit until meta settles down. Then I will craft it probably but thanks for the advice anyways. :)
The set has been live for less than a day. Plot Twist is a super fun card, but give the Meta 2-3 weeks to settle down. Bomb Warrior counters will sprout up, decks will diversify, and then you’ll have your chance to strike. Just look at how much the previous meta changed once the HoFs were announced.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining. I'm not like "what the hell is that bomb dragon, omg nerf this deck" right now. I know how things work, I mean, I know meta didn't shaped up yet, it is too early to call a card bad or some other cards too good.
I just noticed to situation and wondered what you guys think. As I say above, I liked Plot Twist so much and want it to see plays. :)
But well, Bomb Warrior is hard counter to Plot Twist, but really really a hard counter and there are so much Bomb Warriors in Rank 5. When you use Plot Twist (i had to use when I'm desperate), You might draw all of the bombs from the deck before you can heal yourself.
I really love Plot Twist, there should have been a mechanic like this long time ago in my opinion but what I really don't understand is why they decided to put that card the set that have also Bomb Warrior support.
I guess even Plot Twist is an awesome card, It won't see enough play because of the Bomb Warrior Archetype.
So, What do you think? Do you think also Plot Twist is a good card ? Do you think it will see enough play ?
I had played with paladin 2-3 times, it is not super good but ok-ish. Also played mage 2 times but couldn't get good stuff and ended with 4-5 wins.
Won against a bunch of Rogue, they can't answer the board most of the time because they have no beardclears. Advising you to spam minions against her always. :)
just got destroyed by this deck, gotta say conggratulations for the original idea :D
oh really !? I couldn't even try by myself yet. :D Couldn't get Jepetto Joybuzz right now and will wait until i get from packs for 1 week. :) then I will craft it. :)
and it will never change... what are you expecting ? Mill Hunter ? Healer Mage ?
Looking at recent history only, Genn and Baku, Quests, DK, Spell hunter,etc.
Don't be dishonest. The game and the decks have changed. Blizzard have pushed new things in the past. So where does this "it has never changed and it will never change" come from ? Yeah, with RoS specifically, it will never change, I can only agree ;)
By the way healer Mage is literally Frostlich mage aka every mage throughout the year. And what is so dumb with mill hunter that it shouldn't exist?
genn and baku didn't change archetypes. Odd warrior = control warrior, Evenlock = handlock, Odd Paladin = Dude Paladin, Odd Hunter = Face Hunter,
Quests just added exodia to the game which is already in like Frost Mage and other combo decks.
Frostlich is like Reno Mage with elementals and it is needed because of Ice Block Hof.
I'm saying it will never change because Classes have their characteristics and identity, When they try to add other mechanics to them we saw what happened to the game (aka Deathstalker Rexxar, those decks starts like an aggro and finishes like a control)
They said "we don't have so much neutral heals to the game, it can break the game's balance and it doesn't fit to class' identity" after Reno Jackson rotation, and then they added Kingsbane with Lifesteal for the Rogue, Frost Lich Jaina for mage etc.
When they try new things like this, some classes come to be unbalanced. Ok, it is fun to try new things, but "Around the class identity". Honestly, even i like to play and create ridiculous zombeasts, i don't want them to add a card like that to hunter. He has so oppressive cards already and when you add defensive cards to him, it has been so ridiculous to play against. Playing against an Aggro-Midrange-Control mixed deck isn't funny.
So, for example, I'm glad about that they try to add Restoration Druid to the game. It fits the identity of Druid and also a new thing, Like Heal for Paladin.
You can't say that they are not trying btw. But it is already limited by game itself. There could be only 4 archetypes, Control, Combo, Tempo(Aggro is also in here) and Midrange. Even 3 because you can add Midrange in Tempo. So There are only 3 archetypes in this card game. You can't add it because of mechanics of the game.
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you can add me
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got 6/3 with Whizbang. That was fun. :)
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Yeah that deck seems fun. :)
I still couldn't try my deck btw. Still have so much holes and i saw a malygos deck in hsreplay.net seems like mine and i feel sad tbh.
https://hsreplay.net/decks/PrpPHJ9uBAxlDveOk6RTBc/#gameType=RANKED_STANDARD
None was about to try this deck before the expansion, now so much people plays with that and I can't play. I feel sad because of that.. :|
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they don't even get bored to play against that much mirror matches. What a pitiful and boring life they have I really wonder.
All of them fucks my Plot Twist plan. Fuck them all. And blizzard, Fuck you too...
C'mon, can't you make that bombs at least 2-3 damage so we could play some shitty but funny control decks in casual maybe ? ...
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it's not a whine i guess, All want to know or guess nerfs because of extra dust. That's all.
I mean, I don't care meta after 1 month of new expansion but now I care, because I'm a collector and want to craft as much as i can and dusts from nerfed cards helps much because you can hold the card if you have extra copies :)
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well, I really don't care :) just corrected the mistake :)
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we got 1 legendary weapon aswell with Marin.
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Yeah I know that but couldn't get it from packs and want to wait a bit until meta settles down. Then I will craft it probably but thanks for the advice anyways. :)
Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining. I'm not like "what the hell is that bomb dragon, omg nerf this deck" right now. I know how things work, I mean, I know meta didn't shaped up yet, it is too early to call a card bad or some other cards too good.
I just noticed to situation and wondered what you guys think. As I say above, I liked Plot Twist so much and want it to see plays. :)
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Hello guys;
it is not a salt thread. I just wanted to notice that.
I had Fel Lord Betrug from my packs and wanted to try a handlock/Dragon mixed deck in ladder with Plot Twist.
My deck is this, just a fun deck for new expansion hype; :)
Deck is fun and good on some match-ups, If you can get Rotten Applebaum + Crowd Roaster s from Fel Lord Betrug + Plot Twist combo it also gives you quite good recover and boardclear.
But well, Bomb Warrior is hard counter to Plot Twist, but really really a hard counter and there are so much Bomb Warriors in Rank 5. When you use Plot Twist (i had to use when I'm desperate), You might draw all of the bombs from the deck before you can heal yourself.
I really love Plot Twist, there should have been a mechanic like this long time ago in my opinion but what I really don't understand is why they decided to put that card the set that have also Bomb Warrior support.
I guess even Plot Twist is an awesome card, It won't see enough play because of the Bomb Warrior Archetype.
So, What do you think? Do you think also Plot Twist is a good card ? Do you think it will see enough play ?
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I had played with paladin 2-3 times, it is not super good but ok-ish. Also played mage 2 times but couldn't get good stuff and ended with 4-5 wins.
Won against a bunch of Rogue, they can't answer the board most of the time because they have no beardclears. Advising you to spam minions against her always. :)
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ah, I thought you were about Underbelly Ooze when I saw the thread. Nothing to see here more than a warning :)
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oh really !? I couldn't even try by myself yet. :D Couldn't get Jepetto Joybuzz right now and will wait until i get from packs for 1 week. :) then I will craft it. :)
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genn and baku didn't change archetypes. Odd warrior = control warrior, Evenlock = handlock, Odd Paladin = Dude Paladin, Odd Hunter = Face Hunter,
Quests just added exodia to the game which is already in like Frost Mage and other combo decks.
Frostlich is like Reno Mage with elementals and it is needed because of Ice Block Hof.
I'm saying it will never change because Classes have their characteristics and identity, When they try to add other mechanics to them we saw what happened to the game (aka Deathstalker Rexxar, those decks starts like an aggro and finishes like a control)
They said "we don't have so much neutral heals to the game, it can break the game's balance and it doesn't fit to class' identity" after Reno Jackson rotation, and then they added Kingsbane with Lifesteal for the Rogue, Frost Lich Jaina for mage etc.
When they try new things like this, some classes come to be unbalanced. Ok, it is fun to try new things, but "Around the class identity". Honestly, even i like to play and create ridiculous zombeasts, i don't want them to add a card like that to hunter. He has so oppressive cards already and when you add defensive cards to him, it has been so ridiculous to play against. Playing against an Aggro-Midrange-Control mixed deck isn't funny.
So, for example, I'm glad about that they try to add Restoration Druid to the game. It fits the identity of Druid and also a new thing, Like Heal for Paladin.
You can't say that they are not trying btw. But it is already limited by game itself. There could be only 4 archetypes, Control, Combo, Tempo(Aggro is also in here) and Midrange. Even 3 because you can add Midrange in Tempo. So There are only 3 archetypes in this card game. You can't add it because of mechanics of the game.
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All of the comments and thread itself is very useful.
I don't know how arena will shape I just wanted to thank you all.
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hearthstone never changed.
its 2019 and there are zoolocks
handlocks
token druids
midrange hunters
control warriors
and it will never change... what are you expecting ? Mill Hunter ? Healer Mage ?