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Casual exists for new players and those who tire of the ladder grind and wanna play around with silly creative decks. 

 Really?? I'm very interested to see where that has been explicitly stated by Blizzard; otherwise it would be embarrassing if you were just making a statement like that as if it were fact and expecting other people to be forced to play how you want instead of however they like.

As opposed to where Blizzard has actually stated that ranks 50-26 exist purely for new players.
And casual is a place to play whatever you want without the concern of losing ranks.
Who cares if it's a silly home brew or a Top Tier deck that you want to practice to be better at. 
Selfish players will selfish...

 well, all of your statements changed my mind. I guess I was selfish, you re actually right about what you said whole thread long.

I can stop bming my netdecker opponents in casual right now. I will start to bm them in ladder.

Jokes aside, that was nice, I rarely change my mind. I even changed my vote. :)

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Hahahahah Noob.

Control Warrior or Tempo Rogue are the kings. Token Druid and Mech Hunter seem good.

Bomb Warrior is overrated. Take the bomb cards away and you get a really good deck.

 omg he is really the Satan !

Hello Fellow Hearthpwners.

This thread will have half of questions and half of suggestions.

Firstly, I need to say that;

Almost all of us claimed that the power level will decrease after we saw Genn Greymane/Baku the Mooneater Doomguard, Divine Favor, Naturalize rotations. Also we guessed that because of normal rotations. My hype is done (almost but I am also wondering) and I wonder how the old archetypes and cards will impact the meta.

and I want to suggest the ones who couldn't open so much RoS packs to try your old cards which couldn't make any impact on the Genn/Baku meta.

and I want to ask did anyone tried any old deck in this meta. I mean, it is ok if you try Healadin with new cards for example or did Anyone try Attack Druid ? Shark Rogue maybe ?

I mean, I know power level seems like it doesn't decrease with those Tempo Rogues, Bomb Warriors, Token druids or any popular decks by now but I really wonder if anyone could try older unsuccessful archetypes.

I will try them myself in time of course but If you tried so far, please comment here. I will also share my experiments and experiences under this thread. :)

Note: Sorry for my lore-related post, if you don't like to read a lore related comment please jump that for the sake of you and me :)

The biggest fail of the Hearthstone is having so much neutral minions.

Meta will shape around always neutral minions. There should be more class-spesific cards in each expansion.

Cards should have been like 14 per class + 10 neutral or 13 per class + 18 neutral.

I mean, i really hate all of the classes hiding behind same Taunt minions. Ok, I love hearthstone but it is mechanically and lore-related wrong.

Neutral tribe tags are complete bullshit. How can a warlock or Mage controls a beast ? How can a Warrior control some kind of big Elemental ?

There should be more class-specific differences between classes.

And for mage, There should be more spells like Mirror Image and Ice Barrier. Arcane and Frost should protect mages instead of ridiculous Lifesteal Elementals from Frost Lich Jaina or some kind of neutral taunt minion.

I hate how Hearthstone handles neutral cards really. Ok I love the game but I imagined different when they first announced hearthstone.

BLIZZARD ! Hear me, Please do more cards for classes and less cards for neutral and make tribes class specific !!! (ok, ok; i know these won't happen in any time)


Note Again: Sorry for my lore-related post, if you don't like to read a lore related comment please jump that for the sake of you and me :)

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It's fine to say you don't like the new expansion, but your supporting arguments carry no weight at all. Nothing new in the game? Mech hunter, control shaman, bomb warrior, togwaggle rogue, new token druid, they're new and classesplay very differently from the previous expansion. Next to that, rotation means the game feels so fresh. Not having to play around psychcic scream, fungalmancer, or know that I lose my chance to close the game due to a Frostlich Jaina or Bloodreaver Guldan feels sooo good.

Sometimes it's the responsibility of the player to try something new, not just for the game to add it. Go try some new decks. You may enjoy them.

 Indeed.  It is amazing to see how little concern people have for whether or not the words they type are even remotely tethered to reality.

No new decks?  You're an idiot.

Bomb Warrior OP?  Provably false

Uninteractive?  Words mean meanings regardless of what euphemism you want to use for "deck I don't like"

 Man check the votes you will see how is right. 

after less than one week:

12,8% Bad

60,4% Good

26,8% So and so

What do you think that will be the result after 1 month or even worst 2 or 3? The disappointment for this expansion like now is really high. Nearly half of the people, after less than one week thinks that this expansion is not good. So, probably you the the idiot. And yes. It is full of bomb warrior. 

 12.8% is nearly half of 'the people' ? 

You seem desperate to convince people to be unhappy and drag as many as you can into your little hole of sadness. Why? Why are you pushing and pushing for people to not like it? It's pathetic mate. 

12.8% will be higher than it actually is as well. Forums traditionally have a higher portion of bitches on it, people are more busy enjoying a game than going and writing about it but the sad lot who are unhappy seem to prefer camping out and trying to convince others of the same. It's not just hearthstone, same with every game forum I've been part of. Pretty much all of those have been called bad, boring, dying etc and yet are still going, still being enjoyed but the forums are still flooded with the same, asinine cretins that haunt the Internet.

What do you like, man? What makes you happy? What game do you enjoy? Is this the ONLY game you play? Can't you play something else whilst this period you're not enjoying is going on? 

There's plenty of new games, sekiro could keep you busy for hours, play warcraft, maybe try out something like black desert online  play magic the gathering or take up a sport or hobby. The world is your oyster. 

 What problems do you have man? 12,8%+ 26,8%. If you have issues in understanding data thinks the contrary. 

60,4% of the people like the new expansion after one week. DO you think that this is a good result? What do you think that is the acceptance of the people after a new game expansion? 80%/90% when it is good. 60,4% after one week will be after 2/3 month less than 40% of acceptance. 

Ah by the way: Why should I convince people to dislike the expansion? I really don't care. I hope that people like it. I like Hearthstone and I want people to play it. I am disappointed. THat's it. 

I think someone else have problems handling the data of the poll.  Why you count the 26,8% between unhappies? I 12% people don't like chocolate, 60% likes chocolate and 28% are indifferent, you cannot say nearly half of the people dislike chocolate.

BTW, even with your "statistics skills" 39.6% is closer to one third than to one half. 

 because it is statistics. All can conjure a benefit from some kind of weird numbers.

and for whom said that "there are only 3 decks in rank 1 - 3 " What do you expect ?

I mean it was always like that. Nothing ever changed for 6 years. My friends are refusing to play netdecks and they are losing on purpose at rank 16 because they don't want to play against same decks. I am also doing that after 1st season I mean for my checkpoints like if i am at 8 i am losing on purpose if i climb to 6 because casual is full of those "whiners" with their hyper aggro decks to farm golds on us. Ranked 20-15 has best variety of decks for standard. Wild is different.  Wild casual is playable.

People knows how to enjoy but forum whiners don't know it seems. Love or hate, Competitive playing brings that. They are rushing same decks because they want only wins not enjoyement or anything. Their enjoyement stlye lies under winning. They don't care which decks they are facing, They don't care they are playing "cool" synergies or not. They only care for their win. There will be always 3-5 decks on top ladder. Do you want to enjoy the game by playing against different decks ? Don't play for a while and stay at lower ranks.

I'm also climbing first seasons of new expansions and I know how you are climbing to those 1-3 ranks. You are also grinding with those decks and you are doing that since 1st season. Don't try to fool other forum users.

https://hsreplay.net/decks/DGOpMyQcKmisQ2IeKmiJGd/#gameType=RANKED_STANDARD

This deck seems fun and successful, I have a friend who plays exact copy of this, spectated him for a while and he got like 3-1 at rank 4. I guess you meant this deck by freeze mage because i didn't face any other freeze variants of mage decks right now at rank5 besides this one.

and the deck's WR is %53 on hsreplay.net . it is above average for mage decks.

If you have cards you can give it a try. If you don't have the cards well, I can't say anything because they are your dusts and I couldn't even try the deck myself.

Edit: Ah btw you can check VODs here if you don't know how to use this deck;
https://hsreplay.net/decks/DGOpMyQcKmisQ2IeKmiJGd/#gameType=RANKED_STANDARD&tab=vods&vodId=VXcuWKSriBVMDSrUdJVPiF

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Healing for 4 without playing a card, which you later transform with Rafaam if you need to, or play a slightly overcosted Druid of the Claw is really good. I mean handlock used to run earthen farseer and the shroom dude for healing. This card doesn't even need to be played and has taunt as well..  What's not to like about that?

This is the reason why I dismissed Aranasi Broodmother in her reveal thread. This is why I was skeptical about her healing effect from the very beginning - it's unreliable and mediocre, but the worst part is that it's attached to an expensive and understated body.

The first pic was from yesterday and the second is from today. I lost both of those games due to the poor draw RNG.

 well Plot Twist is for that situation afterall. btw portal keeper version of that deck is bad i think. You should try sth like this. I guess you got the cards.

https://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/class-discussion/warlock/232655-plot-twist-warlock-with-dollmaster-dorian#c1

if you have Arch-Villain Rafaam and Lord Godfrey, change Augmented Elekks with those. I dont have both legendaries so I put augmented elekks for the memes. Deck works like 50% for me right now not help for climbing but it doesn't let you drop your ranks aswell. :P

if you don't have enough cards for any standard deck, just play with Whizbang. I got 6/3 with that I mean that's not bad and if you have luck you could get some counter decks from him. :)

But well, token druid or tempo rogue could do decent runs. Deathrattle mech hunter is an option too.

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lol

a pack costs 100g

arena ticket 150g

you just got 200g, so your 150g back and 50g on top, and a pack and some dust so in total you got something like 350g and you say that's bad?

ok ...

 Math not even once, he got as a return 300 gold (a pack (100g) and 200g). He invested 150g and 2 hours gameplay.So he got 150 gold profit which for 10 wins is a shitty reward if you consider the accomplishment ,the time and the risk associated with arena.

 you forgot dust value, we can simply say that 40 dust = 100g (basic pack value) so I think he got 65-95+ dust from 10 wins which means 150-ish gold.

according to this table (its from https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Arena ) he can get at minimum of 505g from arena (100g pack + 170g from first reward + and two random rewards which are 85g and 150-ish gold(65-95 dust) ) and spent 150g for ticket. So he got 355 gold.

But yes all is complaining about hearthstone's rewarding system. 100g cap is also an example for that. 30wins which you can take in 300 mins at best (that's 10 mins for every win and you need to win those 30 games. lol.)

That's 5 hours! 5 hours for 100 gold... So OP, 355g for 2 hours is good for Hearthstone standards...
just joking, both rewards are crap af.

We have to be insane to play this game !

lol and they are pro players. That's an obvious missed lethal that costed 6 mins. :P

Hey Fellow Hearthpwners !!

I am trying to use Plot Twist since beginning of the expansion with that My first unpacked leg is Fel Lord Betrug and found that Dollmaster Dorian + Plot Twist helps so much before you could play Fel Lord Betrug + Plot Twist combo against swarm decks.

If you are using a Plot Twist deck, you should definitely use Dollmaster Dorian too.

Firstly I've tried a deck with dragon tech in it but it didn't ended up well. You can find that deck here;

https://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/232385-plot-twist-has-been-hard-countered-by-bomb

and now I'm using this one, My Decklist is like that;

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Spicy but expensive.. I'd say 'worth it' though- For Science!!

 

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I have tested it before, Master's Call rks like Stitched Tracker if you have no beasts in your deck and it doesn't discard the other 2 cards.

 That's valuable data.. thanks for sharing. Will definitely help in future experiments.

 btw it draws the minion from your deck, didn't copy. But still dooesn't discard other 2 cards. Other cards stay in your deck. Sorry for misleading for copy one, i remembered wrong but don't worry for other cards. They are staying in the deck after you draw Jepetto Joybuzz from Master's Call :)

I could test the deck finally. I have played 10 games in rank 5 and it ended up 7/3 so far and i found the deck so funny.

I have tinkered something and updated the deck.

Well, I thought firstly that it won't be a competitive deck but it ended up as a competitive deck and can beat Bomb Warriors, Tempo Rogues, warlocks and more. I will try to add video, replays and a guide to the deck's page.

Most of the time I didn't need Malygos himself. In some games I drawn it before playing Jepetto Joybuzz but I could win the game it is just a nice addition if you can draw him as 1-cost 1/1. Alexstrasza, Zul'jin and Vereesa Windrunner can do the job most of the time. :)

ah, and thanks for suggestions and thanks who supports and likes the idea since some others claims the deck as theirs. i know what happened at least. :)

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 Also I have a golden Gonk no need to say him

 But you said ? lol.

It is your decision. Noone here can say that you will be happy after you crafted or not.

If you will be more happy with golden staghelm and stalladris instead of 2 more legendaries, you can craft i guess. The answer of this question matters.

well, it doesn't mean that you can craft 2 more neutral legendaries which druid always uses. Neutral legendaries are always better. (for crafting)

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you can add me

 thanks. someone added me and they won with mally hunter (which was awesome) was that you? 

 yep that was me :) and the deck is in my decks list here. You can check :)