I have basically completed every shaman game quest or overload quest by playing the current iteration of even shaman. The one that uses totem carvers and no Hagatha or Lich King or card costing more than 5 really. This nerf kills my early game my mid game, my ability to use and abuse things from below and my ability to rely on anything but crackle as burst, short story this makes any even deck unusable. It really seems like Genn and Baku destroyed not only standard for a year but also wild (how they have it currently set up) forever. How many more of these evergreen nerfs are we going to see before we either get more evergreen cards or a nerf free well balanced expansion? Rant over...
Is this a troll? Even shaman is total fucking cancer in wild. Yeah sorry, but thank god I will be seeing less 0 mana 5/5s and 4 mana 7/7s. You literally said this nerf kills your ability to “abuse” your cards. I’m sure your opponent loves facing you abuse everything. And yeah, too bad you only have crackle, another amazingly designed card, for burst. Even though you also have jade lightning so I’m not sure what you’re saying.
uhmm? you still have 4 mana 7/7s and an army of Jades, also WIld even shamman doesn't even use hagatha, it's still a strong deck, also complaining about genn and baku because they enrfed your EVEN shamman?, i mean, there are hypocrites, then there are politicians and then there's OP.
just replace the card with another card that buffs tokens like dire wolf of defender of argus the deck is weaker but a deck of such caliber should still be very playable
You can complete overload quests with Control Shaman, with a Frost Giant + Spellstone deck, with an aggressive Trogg + burn deck, or with a modified Even Shaman list. Of course they're not as strong as the current Even Shaman, but there are still plenty of Shaman options if you don't mind a slightly lower win rate.
Even shaman being nerfed in wild? U crazy. A nerf to even shaman in wild would be removing thing from below or devolve. Ive seen and played games without even playing the flametongue and never felt less power in the deck.
Obviously. Complaining about comatose level decks is such a waste of space. The only reason garbage like that is crafted is so 6 year old have a chance of winning some games. It's profitable.
I'm not a fan of Even Shaman in Wild, but some of the comments in this thread are ridiculous. People love different things, get used to it. You play the decks you like, others play the ones they like. Yes, yes, yes, you're allowed to have an opinion about netdeckers, but as soon as someone asks anything about a Hunter deck, Big Priest, or any other meta-deck, he or she just receives a flood of hate, every time.
As for the question, I believe Even Shaman has such a huge pool of good Even cards, the deck will still be strong. As I recall, Flametongue is used to contest the board early, and when pressure from your opponent is absent, you can create bigger boards. The change to the totem just means Even Shaman can't snowball as quickly anymore, and needs other ways to contest the board. Find a way to do so, experiment with different cards, and see how it works.
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Already playtested some without the totem. I think it is still absolutely playable tbh and not just broken. It takes away a lot of potential early damage yet you are easily able to snowball hard (which is the win condition anyway).
You can play the Murloc spawning totem (If you not already play it, I haven't yet) or the add a random elemental elemental.
The win rate will probably come down from 75% to 50-60%~.
My biggest fear is that Cancerous Big Priest is having more of it than anyone else and therefore make wild even worse. I prefer facing tons of Shamans than these fuckers.
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I have basically completed every shaman game quest or overload quest by playing the current iteration of even shaman. The one that uses totem carvers and no Hagatha or Lich King or card costing more than 5 really. This nerf kills my early game my mid game, my ability to use and abuse things from below and my ability to rely on anything but crackle as burst, short story this makes any even deck unusable. It really seems like Genn and Baku destroyed not only standard for a year but also wild (how they have it currently set up) forever. How many more of these evergreen nerfs are we going to see before we either get more evergreen cards or a nerf free well balanced expansion? Rant over...
Yeah, I believe Baku and Genn just destroyed Wild forever.
:(
But hey... at least you can play Malygos Shammy or whatever, Blizz loves OTK.
Is this a troll? Even shaman is total fucking cancer in wild. Yeah sorry, but thank god I will be seeing less 0 mana 5/5s and 4 mana 7/7s. You literally said this nerf kills your ability to “abuse” your cards. I’m sure your opponent loves facing you abuse everything. And yeah, too bad you only have crackle, another amazingly designed card, for burst. Even though you also have jade lightning so I’m not sure what you’re saying.
Well to be fair, the game itself is cancer.
They nerfed your cancer deck? Sad to see your sorrow...
uhmm? you still have 4 mana 7/7s and an army of Jades, also WIld even shamman doesn't even use hagatha, it's still a strong deck, also complaining about genn and baku because they enrfed your EVEN shamman?, i mean, there are hypocrites, then there are politicians and then there's OP.
Lol, people gets their OP toys removed and complain the world is doomed...
just replace the card with another card that buffs tokens like dire wolf of defender of argus the deck is weaker but a deck of such caliber should still be very playable
No. Fool. Cancer is Cancer. Hearthstone is a mere irritation. Like Crabs...
4/3/19 RIP Keith Flint. 😔
You can complete overload quests with Control Shaman, with a Frost Giant + Spellstone deck, with an aggressive Trogg + burn deck, or with a modified Even Shaman list. Of course they're not as strong as the current Even Shaman, but there are still plenty of Shaman options if you don't mind a slightly lower win rate.
Even shaman being nerfed in wild? U crazy. A nerf to even shaman in wild would be removing thing from below or devolve. Ive seen and played games without even playing the flametongue and never felt less power in the deck.
Yeah! Even Shaman is.... err.... crabs? :-D
Hehehe!
Obviously. Complaining about comatose level decks is such a waste of space. The only reason garbage like that is crafted is so 6 year old have a chance of winning some games. It's profitable.
Fun > Meta
the only thing they had to nerf was that fucking idiot of barnes
I'm not a fan of Even Shaman in Wild, but some of the comments in this thread are ridiculous. People love different things, get used to it. You play the decks you like, others play the ones they like. Yes, yes, yes, you're allowed to have an opinion about netdeckers, but as soon as someone asks anything about a Hunter deck, Big Priest, or any other meta-deck, he or she just receives a flood of hate, every time.
As for the question, I believe Even Shaman has such a huge pool of good Even cards, the deck will still be strong. As I recall, Flametongue is used to contest the board early, and when pressure from your opponent is absent, you can create bigger boards. The change to the totem just means Even Shaman can't snowball as quickly anymore, and needs other ways to contest the board. Find a way to do so, experiment with different cards, and see how it works.
Dad, husband, gamer, fueled by coffee.
Currently playing Dragon Galakrond Priest, Dragon Galakrond Warrior and Highlander Dragon Hunter.
How do you Shaman? Simple answer. You don't. It's obvious that most people don't like to play a class with RNG as its main theme. VS really got it right with the latest news (check the link at the bottom): https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/the-data-reaper-breaks-down-the-balance-changes-again/
tl;dr - It's in such a dire situation that meta snapshots might as well reuse the term "Shaman tier" (before TGT) to describe horrible decks.
Shaman is the new Priest: Origins
Already playtested some without the totem. I think it is still absolutely playable tbh and not just broken. It takes away a lot of potential early damage yet you are easily able to snowball hard (which is the win condition anyway).
You can play the Murloc spawning totem (If you not already play it, I haven't yet) or the add a random elemental elemental.
The win rate will probably come down from 75% to 50-60%~.
My biggest fear is that Cancerous Big Priest is having more of it than anyone else and therefore make wild even worse. I prefer facing tons of Shamans than these fuckers.