I sometimes copy-paste a deck. I play it a couple of times or watch some youtube highlights and start to tune the deck overtime. I review my deck tracker stats every couple of days to keep track of my bad match ups. At the moment i play kiblers kazakus highlander deck, it's on version 1.9. It's still a kazakus highlander deck but with the changes it doesn't resemble the original deck at all.
I have a sizeable collection and like to copy paste fun decks that tend to be control or combo decks that are often like tier 2 tempo meta snapshot at best decks. I wish blizzard would address the fact that most of the fun cards are hiding behind a too high rarity quality because more people should enjoy these fun cards.
I start a new expension by creating my old decks, usually trying to make underrated cards from previous expensions shine. Then I netdeck at the end of the season to reach rank 5, and I go back to my decks to refine them with the experience I gained from facing better (usually net)decks met at higher levels. But I mostly netdeck at the end of each season
I like to look at the decks online for ideas, but typically I never straight copy one unless it's already an off-the-wall deck.
Building them yourself is a lot of the fun of playing. Winning with someone else's deck isn't rewarding in the least imo, but then again I don't much care for racking up as many wins as possible.
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I don't understand the hate for net deckers (except when they obviously don't know how to play their deck, that is annoying). I make more original decks when I'm playing for fun or experimentation, but if I want to make a competitive deck and be successful at higher ranks, I think it's just common sense to go online and see what the current popular deck lists are, especially if you have a limited/F2P card set.
If you wanted to learn how to weld (for example), would you buy a bunch of gear and just start burning rod in hopes of learning something, or would you do research or take a class and try to learn from somebody who already knows wtf they're doing?
Let's pretend for a minute every half decent Hearthstone player created their own deck. I believe the idea is that, with time, their own master-minded deck will be veeerryy similar to a "netdeck" that a pro uses.
I remember when I first started playing (around when the game came out, after beta), I played a lot of rogue, simply because I was a rogue main in World of Warcraft. I had been playing a long time with a deck I created on my own. Eventually, I came to this website to look at what people were building. One of the top rogue decks at the time was a tempo deck that was almost card for card a copy of my deck haha. I think I was just missing a legendary or two back then (most notably Bloodmage Thalnos).
Anyways, the hate for netdecking is pretty ridiculous. I'm a mostly casual player these days, I probably play like... 30 games a month roughly. I'm not gonna waste time getting lit up with some brutal deck I don't have time to perfect.
Edit: It should also go without saying that you can substitute cards out for certain tech cards. For example, substituting an Eater of Secrets for a Kolakka Crawler or whatever still constitutes straight copy and pasting in my eyes.
Only use net decks for ranked, but not causal (not viable ranking decks anyway). I use decks I usually find fun, like my aggro combo preist. Get a big health minion then inner fire combo.
In gadgetzan I used zoolock. It countered other aggro (pw) so it had a good wr (until after rank 10)
People might call me cancer, but I played burn mage.
66.7% inbetween? I don't believe that. Either people are lying, or they have like 1 ''original'' card in their deck (like a doomsayer in jade druid) and call it original. Or there are way more people at the low ranks than I think there are.
This generation of kids grew up with google, so its like they don't know any better. I remember in the early 90's making magic decks just from the cards I had and having a BLAST creating fun combos that came to me. I think it really takes the fun out of it to just copy past a deck without even putting some thought into deck creation.
Now don't get me wrong, I love watching streams from Kibler or Toast to see what crazy ideas they came up with. If one of their ideas really seems fun i'll try it out and tweak it based on my card collection or play style.
What it comes down to is that we can't be angry at netdeckers, they just are lazy or not creative OR just want instant gratification... (if this statement makes you angry then it prob hit close to home for you lol). I just wish there was a reward system for players that don't netdeck or play not as popular decks.
I like to experiment with my own decks, I am not a "great deckbuilder" but I think it is more fun and rewarding trying to win with something you made, I will netdeck if I see something I like but cannot resist putting my own twist on it.
I netdeck most of the time, because I just have a couple of hours for HS besides work, which I rather spend playing than coming up with decks. However I often explore tech-substitutions while laddering and exchanging single cards.
For Hearthstone it doesn't bother me too much (probably because I don't mind buying the pre-order bundles), for MTG I stopped playing 'standard' after all the deck-databases where coming up, because it required you to pay 200 bucks every 2-3 months to keep the pace and every schoolkid started playing Pro-Tour decks.
i generally create my own decks from scratch, though i have played this game enough to know most of the builds anyways. most of my decks differ from netdecks by maybe 1-5 cards, which isnt a lot, but its either because i like/dislike specific cards or something fits my play style a little better
I'll netdeck as many cards as I can in a deck and then actually use my brain to fill in the cracks. With my other 9 slots, I create decks from scratch. I'll alternate between the two whenever I lose with one. Seems to keep things relatively fresh.
I never netdeck even the slightest. I personally consider deckbuilding to be half of the skill in the game.
This might work better as a poll
It's certainly a skill, but I think it's kind of silly for anybody who does this as a hobby to think they're capable of building a better deck than pros who spend 6+ hours a day playing. Most people will just never reach the sample size to determine how any alterations really affect their win percentage.
I love building decks in casual, but once I get high in ranked I'm certainly not going to handicap myself with a sub-optimal deck.
You mean those pro players that all called doctor boom as bad. Pros play net decks too, Only really experiment after getting to a good rank.
I'm in between but I've never been very good at creating my own decks. I've tried and failed badly haha. It is fun having your own deck around a certain theme without having to always be someone who just net deck to have the best win ratio.
I would say the phrase "blindly netdecking" is a little condescending and misleading.
Netdecking is popular because the most optimized decks have already been discovered.
I could throw together my own custom deck (and many times I do) but it'll often end up looking very similar to what's already been posted online on one of the meta sites... There's nothing new under the sun.
With time I'm as non-donating player (stopped doing it because of Blizzard greed) discovered that with every new expansion my ability to netdeck was reduced greatly.. Too many missing cards. Better to build my own deck. Also lately I'm not able to use other people's decks to their full potential, I win more often with my own (worse) decks.
The entire net-deck vs home brew debate is a farce. It is predicated on the notion that a player must choose between an established build from the internet, or an equally viable build that they produced through their own skill and creativity. In the real world, no such choice exists. The average player simply cannot build a deck that is both viable, and doesn't resemble closely an established build. Because of the meta game, decks not resembling net-decks will under-perform. There are a handful of skilled builders out there who occasionally create a new meta-deck, but to suggest that every player can do so, and that most opt out due to laziness, is absurd.
As an example, I made a deck by searching on 'pirate', adding the resulting minions on curve. Then I added weapons and direct damage spells. It looks a lot like the pirate warrior lists. Did I net deck?
I sometimes copy-paste a deck. I play it a couple of times or watch some youtube highlights and start to tune the deck overtime. I review my deck tracker stats every couple of days to keep track of my bad match ups. At the moment i play kiblers kazakus highlander deck, it's on version 1.9. It's still a kazakus highlander deck but with the changes it doesn't resemble the original deck at all.
I have a sizeable collection and like to copy paste fun decks that tend to be control or combo decks that are often like tier 2 tempo meta snapshot at best decks. I wish blizzard would address the fact that most of the fun cards are hiding behind a too high rarity quality because more people should enjoy these fun cards.
I start a new expension by creating my old decks, usually trying to make underrated cards from previous expensions shine. Then I netdeck at the end of the season to reach rank 5, and I go back to my decks to refine them with the experience I gained from facing better (usually net)decks met at higher levels. But I mostly netdeck at the end of each season
I like to look at the decks online for ideas, but typically I never straight copy one unless it's already an off-the-wall deck.
Building them yourself is a lot of the fun of playing. Winning with someone else's deck isn't rewarding in the least imo, but then again I don't much care for racking up as many wins as possible.
Nature is the Day.
Man is the Sun.
Woman is the Moon.
The Stone is the Sky.
The Art is the Way.
No doubt..
I don't understand the hate for net deckers (except when they obviously don't know how to play their deck, that is annoying). I make more original decks when I'm playing for fun or experimentation, but if I want to make a competitive deck and be successful at higher ranks, I think it's just common sense to go online and see what the current popular deck lists are, especially if you have a limited/F2P card set.
If you wanted to learn how to weld (for example), would you buy a bunch of gear and just start burning rod in hopes of learning something, or would you do research or take a class and try to learn from somebody who already knows wtf they're doing?
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"Nerf Paper," said Rock.
Let's pretend for a minute every half decent Hearthstone player created their own deck. I believe the idea is that, with time, their own master-minded deck will be veeerryy similar to a "netdeck" that a pro uses.
I remember when I first started playing (around when the game came out, after beta), I played a lot of rogue, simply because I was a rogue main in World of Warcraft. I had been playing a long time with a deck I created on my own. Eventually, I came to this website to look at what people were building. One of the top rogue decks at the time was a tempo deck that was almost card for card a copy of my deck haha. I think I was just missing a legendary or two back then (most notably Bloodmage Thalnos).
Anyways, the hate for netdecking is pretty ridiculous. I'm a mostly casual player these days, I probably play like... 30 games a month roughly. I'm not gonna waste time getting lit up with some brutal deck I don't have time to perfect.
Edit: It should also go without saying that you can substitute cards out for certain tech cards. For example, substituting an Eater of Secrets for a Kolakka Crawler or whatever still constitutes straight copy and pasting in my eyes.
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Only use net decks for ranked, but not causal (not viable ranking decks anyway). I use decks I usually find fun, like my aggro combo preist. Get a big health minion then inner fire combo.
In gadgetzan I used zoolock. It countered other aggro (pw) so it had a good wr (until after rank 10)
People might call me cancer, but I played burn mage.
66.7% inbetween? I don't believe that. Either people are lying, or they have like 1 ''original'' card in their deck (like a doomsayer in jade druid) and call it original. Or there are way more people at the low ranks than I think there are.
Fuck cubelock
This generation of kids grew up with google, so its like they don't know any better. I remember in the early 90's making magic decks just from the cards I had and having a BLAST creating fun combos that came to me. I think it really takes the fun out of it to just copy past a deck without even putting some thought into deck creation.
Now don't get me wrong, I love watching streams from Kibler or Toast to see what crazy ideas they came up with. If one of their ideas really seems fun i'll try it out and tweak it based on my card collection or play style.
What it comes down to is that we can't be angry at netdeckers, they just are lazy or not creative OR just want instant gratification... (if this statement makes you angry then it prob hit close to home for you lol). I just wish there was a reward system for players that don't netdeck or play not as popular decks.
In-between, it's where the fun is.
I like to experiment with my own decks, I am not a "great deckbuilder" but I think it is more fun and rewarding trying to win with something you made, I will netdeck if I see something I like but cannot resist putting my own twist on it.
I netdeck most of the time, because I just have a couple of hours for HS besides work, which I rather spend playing than coming up with decks. However I often explore tech-substitutions while laddering and exchanging single cards.
For Hearthstone it doesn't bother me too much (probably because I don't mind buying the pre-order bundles), for MTG I stopped playing 'standard' after all the deck-databases where coming up, because it required you to pay 200 bucks every 2-3 months to keep the pace and every schoolkid started playing Pro-Tour decks.
i generally create my own decks from scratch, though i have played this game enough to know most of the builds anyways. most of my decks differ from netdecks by maybe 1-5 cards, which isnt a lot, but its either because i like/dislike specific cards or something fits my play style a little better
I'll netdeck as many cards as I can in a deck and then actually use my brain to fill in the cracks. With my other 9 slots, I create decks from scratch. I'll alternate between the two whenever I lose with one. Seems to keep things relatively fresh.
I'm in between but I've never been very good at creating my own decks. I've tried and failed badly haha. It is fun having your own deck around a certain theme without having to always be someone who just net deck to have the best win ratio.
"One who knows nothing, Understands nothing.."
I would say the phrase "blindly netdecking" is a little condescending and misleading.
Netdecking is popular because the most optimized decks have already been discovered.
I could throw together my own custom deck (and many times I do) but it'll often end up looking very similar to what's already been posted online on one of the meta sites... There's nothing new under the sun.
With time I'm as non-donating player (stopped doing it because of Blizzard greed) discovered that with every new expansion my ability to netdeck was reduced greatly.. Too many missing cards. Better to build my own deck. Also lately I'm not able to use other people's decks to their full potential, I win more often with my own (worse) decks.
The entire net-deck vs home brew debate is a farce. It is predicated on the notion that a player must choose between an established build from the internet, or an equally viable build that they produced through their own skill and creativity. In the real world, no such choice exists. The average player simply cannot build a deck that is both viable, and doesn't resemble closely an established build. Because of the meta game, decks not resembling net-decks will under-perform. There are a handful of skilled builders out there who occasionally create a new meta-deck, but to suggest that every player can do so, and that most opt out due to laziness, is absurd.
As an example, I made a deck by searching on 'pirate', adding the resulting minions on curve. Then I added weapons and direct damage spells. It looks a lot like the pirate warrior lists. Did I net deck?
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