Somebody should tell Blizzard that it's ok to print good cards for Rogue.
If Priest can be given Duskbreaker without worrying that they would break the game, then Rogue can be given a 2 mana 3 damage to minion gain a coin or 3 mana 3 damage to enemy gain a coin.
As it is now, it's overcosted for its effect. Funny how Blizzard treads so carefully when designing new Rogue cards with them almost always being overcosted or having weak bodies and then they went ahead and gave Priests Hellfire on a 3/3 body.
Card should read "invest 2 mana this turn, gain one mana later"
at first sight it seems bad but remember the fact that rogue turns are spikey as hell - so if some synergy is found in other announced cards it might find a home - especially if the meta has a lot of 3 health minions.
Just think about it this way. OTK paladin would have played this if it were a paladin card. It may be (really) bad, but it may also be the only option to achieve a certain combo now that both Tomb Pillager and Counterfeit Coin are in wild.
Somebody should tell Blizzard that it's ok to print good cards for Rogue.
If Priest can be given Duskbreaker without worrying that they would break the game, then Rogue can be given a 2 mana 3 damage to minion gain a coin or 3 mana 3 damage to enemy gain a coin.
As it is now, it's overcosted for its effect. Funny how Blizzard treads so carefully when designing new Rogue cards with them almost always being overcosted or having weak bodies and then they went ahead and gave Priests Hellfire on a 3/3 body.
Priest, paladin or warlock? Keeping give broken after broken after broken card, powercreep the powercreepers.
Rogue, shaman or warrior? Increase all cost in 2 and reduce all effects in half, we have to be extremely careful with this classes.
lol ppl really dont know how cards are until played, i see many here commenting not even realizing this is supposed to go into a Miracle Rogue deck but im sure those ppl dont even know what that is and probably just play some aggro deck while hoping that face hunter becomes huge with Baku so they can press a button and do 3 no skill damage to enemy face.
As always if someone calls it good card its gonna be bad, if someone says its bad its gonna be good, Gotta love this 16 year olds that think they have the skill to play HS which aint that much of a skilled game. I would laugh seeing this ppl play Magic The Gathering
Just think about it this way. OTK paladin would have played this if it were a paladin card. It may be (really) bad, but it may also be the only option to achieve a certain combo now that both Tomb Pillager and Counterfeit Coin are in wild.
OTK pally is a bad example because it is the extreme case where you can win on the spot thanks to coins, which isn't true anywhere in rogue.
That being said, you are right in that a good analysis of this card requires knowledge of the rest of the set, and it is possible there is a card that raises the power of coins enough to make WANTED! wanted.
WANTED! - deal 3 damage to a minion AND kill it and only then do you get a coin...
So I guess a coin is now more valuable that getting a 3/3 or drawing a card.
It doesn't really make sense to compare cards across classes like that. Common mistake. As we have seen from many cards, gaining a coin can be really powerful in rogue. In hunter or paladin, this card would probably be utter trash, but in rogue, it might just be good enough to see play.
Be it as it may I still think it is too expensive to justify playing (exept maybe in some kind of combo OTK deck, but even than...)
However I would gladly be proven wrong.
Technicaly its better than draw a card, its draw a specific card.
Counterfit coin was used in tier 1 rogue Decks so the coin is a legit and pretty good card in rogue. Also this has an upside over Counterfit coin if you want to use it in OTHK deck like malygos.
Since there you cant play the coin until you finish the game with it. Wanted! gives you an defensive 4 mana play without losing the coin.
Im not saying this card is especialy great but i can see why they made it cost 4 mana instead of three.
lol ppl really dont know how cards are until played, i see many here commenting not even realizing this is supposed to go into a Miracle Rogue deck but im sure those ppl dont even know what that is and probably just play some aggro deck while hoping that face hunter becomes huge with Baku so they can press a button and do 3 no skill damage to enemy face.
As always if someone calls it good card its gonna be bad, if someone says its bad its gonna be good, Gotta love this 16 year olds that think they have the skill to play HS which aint that much of a skilled game. I would laugh seeing this ppl play Magic The Gathering
Go back to MTG you dont undestand anything about HS.
lol ppl really dont know how cards are until played, i see many here commenting not even realizing this is supposed to go into a Miracle Rogue deck but im sure those ppl dont even know what that is and probably just play some aggro deck while hoping that face hunter becomes huge with Baku so they can press a button and do 3 no skill damage to enemy face.
As always if someone calls it good card its gonna be bad, if someone says its bad its gonna be good, Gotta love this 16 year olds that think they have the skill to play HS which aint that much of a skilled game. I would laugh seeing this ppl play Magic The Gathering
Go back to MTG you dont undestand anything about HS.
Nice explanation, how about you tell me why? You do realize Rogue has preparation spell right? everything played on the same turn of Auctioneer makes a nice combo. But okay i will go back to a less skilled game MTG ahahahaahh u jest my friend.
Edit- Wait no explanation needed. You say you are an aggro player in your description. I understand everything now
lol ppl really dont know how cards are until played, i see many here commenting not even realizing this is supposed to go into a Miracle Rogue deck but im sure those ppl dont even know what that is and probably just play some aggro deck while hoping that face hunter becomes huge with Baku so they can press a button and do 3 no skill damage to enemy face.
As always if someone calls it good card its gonna be bad, if someone says its bad its gonna be good, Gotta love this 16 year olds that think they have the skill to play HS which aint that much of a skilled game. I would laugh seeing this ppl play Magic The Gathering
Go back to MTG you dont undestand anything about HS.
Nice explanation, how about you tell me why? You do realize Rogue has preparation spell right? everything played on the same turn of Auctioneer makes a nice combo. But okay i will go back to a less skilled game MTG ahahahaahh u jest my friend.
Edit- Wait no explanation needed. You say you are an aggro player in your description. I understand everything now
No i never thought about preparation... genious. You do realize that Auctioneer is the reason why this card and many other rogue cards sucks, right?
Edit: Stfu dude... do not waste my time on someone as insignificant as you.
lol ppl really dont know how cards are until played, i see many here commenting not even realizing this is supposed to go into a Miracle Rogue deck but im sure those ppl dont even know what that is and probably just play some aggro deck while hoping that face hunter becomes huge with Baku so they can press a button and do 3 no skill damage to enemy face.
As always if someone calls it good card its gonna be bad, if someone says its bad its gonna be good, Gotta love this 16 year olds that think they have the skill to play HS which aint that much of a skilled game. I would laugh seeing this ppl play Magic The Gathering
Go back to MTG you dont undestand anything about HS.
Nice explanation, how about you tell me why? You do realize Rogue has preparation spell right? everything played on the same turn of Auctioneer makes a nice combo. But okay i will go back to a less skilled game MTG ahahahaahh u jest my friend.
Edit- Wait no explanation needed. You say you are an aggro player in your description. I understand everything now
No i never thought about preparation... genious. You do realize that Auctioneer is the reason why this card and many other rogue cards sucks, right?
Yes they do suck on their own, you are correct but then again they are made like that on purpose so you have to run the Miracle style. I do agree that it sucks to be forced on to some style of play but imo Rogue is to be played like that, combo style, if you want other types u have other classes, plus they introduced Kingsbane that shall create a new type of Rogue given its time, i mean there is Mill Rogue, but Coldlight is rotating
lol ppl really dont know how cards are until played, i see many here commenting not even realizing this is supposed to go into a Miracle Rogue deck but im sure those ppl dont even know what that is and probably just play some aggro deck while hoping that face hunter becomes huge with Baku so they can press a button and do 3 no skill damage to enemy face.
As always if someone calls it good card its gonna be bad, if someone says its bad its gonna be good, Gotta love this 16 year olds that think they have the skill to play HS which aint that much of a skilled game. I would laugh seeing this ppl play Magic The Gathering
Go back to MTG you dont undestand anything about HS.
Nice explanation, how about you tell me why? You do realize Rogue has preparation spell right? everything played on the same turn of Auctioneer makes a nice combo. But okay i will go back to a less skilled game MTG ahahahaahh u jest my friend.
Edit- Wait no explanation needed. You say you are an aggro player in your description. I understand everything now
No i never thought about preparation... genious. You do realize that Auctioneer is the reason why this card and many other rogue cards sucks, right?
Yes they do suck on their own, you are correct but then again they are made like that on purpose so you have to run the Miracle style. I do agree that it sucks to be forced on to some style of play but imo Rogue is to be played like that, combo style, if you want other types u have other classes, plus they introduced Kingsbane that shall create a new type of Rogue given its time, i mean there is Mill Rogue, but Coldlight is rotating
I play lots of miracle rogue, but I still just don't think this card is thaaat good. Granted they need a new Coin generator with Counterfeit Coin rotating.
No need for you and this other guy to have a peeing race about who's cooler than the other. This card will have to fit into miracle rogue out of necessity (if miracle rogue even remains viable after rotation), but it's still just not a great card. No matter how you look at it. At least for now, maybe something else will somehow come up.
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Just think about it this way. OTK paladin would have played this if it were a paladin card. It may be (really) bad, but it may also be the only option to achieve a certain combo now that both Tomb Pillager and Counterfeit Coin are in wild.
OTK pally is a bad example because it is the extreme case where you can win on the spot thanks to coins, which isn't true anywhere in rogue.
That being said, you are right in that a good analysis of this card requires knowledge of the rest of the set, and it is possible there is a card that raises the power of coins enough to make WANTED! wanted.
It's actually the best example because an extreme case like that is pretty much the only way I see this card being played. And it could happen. Just look at warrior who could OTK with ragnars hero power if they had two extra mana (Clockwork Automaton X2).
lol ppl really dont know how cards are until played, i see many here commenting not even realizing this is supposed to go into a Miracle Rogue deck but im sure those ppl dont even know what that is and probably just play some aggro deck while hoping that face hunter becomes huge with Baku so they can press a button and do 3 no skill damage to enemy face.
As always if someone calls it good card its gonna be bad, if someone says its bad its gonna be good, Gotta love this 16 year olds that think they have the skill to play HS which aint that much of a skilled game. I would laugh seeing this ppl play Magic The Gathering
Go back to MTG you dont undestand anything about HS.
Nice explanation, how about you tell me why? You do realize Rogue has preparation spell right? everything played on the same turn of Auctioneer makes a nice combo. But okay i will go back to a less skilled game MTG ahahahaahh u jest my friend.
Edit- Wait no explanation needed. You say you are an aggro player in your description. I understand everything now
No i never thought about preparation... genious. You do realize that Auctioneer is the reason why this card and many other rogue cards sucks, right?
Edit: Stfu dude... do not waste my time on someone as insignificant as you.
Insignificant? Cause u have an account dating back to 2015 and mines not? ahahaah you got love the internet. ppl actually think they have some type of level of importance behind a screen and keyboard. who are you for saying u are better than me? you can be Brode himself, or a pro player or just a kid, nobody knows, same applies to me and yet you feel you are more important than me. I dont give 2 shits about it. Question is can you sleep tonight not knowing or ever will know if u are really more important than me? Sadly we will never know. Sad But True
lol ppl really dont know how cards are until played, i see many here commenting not even realizing this is supposed to go into a Miracle Rogue deck but im sure those ppl dont even know what that is and probably just play some aggro deck while hoping that face hunter becomes huge with Baku so they can press a button and do 3 no skill damage to enemy face.
As always if someone calls it good card its gonna be bad, if someone says its bad its gonna be good, Gotta love this 16 year olds that think they have the skill to play HS which aint that much of a skilled game. I would laugh seeing this ppl play Magic The Gathering
Go back to MTG you dont undestand anything about HS.
Nice explanation, how about you tell me why? You do realize Rogue has preparation spell right? everything played on the same turn of Auctioneer makes a nice combo. But okay i will go back to a less skilled game MTG ahahahaahh u jest my friend.
Edit- Wait no explanation needed. You say you are an aggro player in your description. I understand everything now
No i never thought about preparation... genious. You do realize that Auctioneer is the reason why this card and many other rogue cards sucks, right?
Edit: Stfu dude... do not waste my time on someone as insignificant as you.
Insignificant? Cause u have an account dating back to 2015 and mines not? ahahaah you got love the internet. ppl actually think they have some type of level of importance behind a screen and keyboard. who are you for saying u are better than me? you can be Brode himself, or a pro player or just a kid, nobody knows, same applies to me and yet you feel you are more important than me. I dont give 2 shits about it. Question is can you sleep tonight not knowing or ever will know if u are really more important than me? Sadly we will never know. Sad But True
"i see many here commenting not even realizing this is supposed to go into a Miracle Rogue deck (genious) but im sure those ppl dont even know what that is and probably just play some aggro deck while hoping that face hunter becomes huge with Baku so they can press a button and do 3 no skill damage to enemy face."
"Wait no explanation needed. You say you are an aggro player in your description. I understand everything now"
Do you really think i will waste my time trying to argue with someone like you? lol ok m8...
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its epic, 4 mana.. not that great for its effect
Paladin Quest sucks..
Good art.
Somebody should tell Blizzard that it's ok to print good cards for Rogue.
If Priest can be given Duskbreaker without worrying that they would break the game, then Rogue can be given a 2 mana 3 damage to minion gain a coin or 3 mana 3 damage to enemy gain a coin.
As it is now, it's overcosted for its effect. Funny how Blizzard treads so carefully when designing new Rogue cards with them almost always being overcosted or having weak bodies and then they went ahead and gave Priests Hellfire on a 3/3 body.
Card should read "invest 2 mana this turn, gain one mana later"
at first sight it seems bad but remember the fact that rogue turns are spikey as hell - so if some synergy is found in other announced cards it might find a home - especially if the meta has a lot of 3 health minions.
Just think about it this way. OTK paladin would have played this if it were a paladin card. It may be (really) bad, but it may also be the only option to achieve a certain combo now that both Tomb Pillager and Counterfeit Coin are in wild.
3 mana deal 3 damage IF IT kills, if it doesnt kill it it's 4 mana deal 3 damage. This card is fucking garbage, should be lesser than common.
If the coin were guaranteed I'd think this would be pretty solid, or if it were one less mana.
lol ppl really dont know how cards are until played, i see many here commenting not even realizing this is supposed to go into a Miracle Rogue deck but im sure those ppl dont even know what that is and probably just play some aggro deck while hoping that face hunter becomes huge with Baku so they can press a button and do 3 no skill damage to enemy face.
As always if someone calls it good card its gonna be bad, if someone says its bad its gonna be good, Gotta love this 16 year olds that think they have the skill to play HS which aint that much of a skilled game. I would laugh seeing this ppl play Magic The Gathering
Edit: Stfu dude... do not waste my time on someone as insignificant as you.
It only gives you one coin though.
Twitch name: Anatak15
NA Legend Season 48, 49, 52, 53, 54, 74
"Wait no explanation needed. You say you are an aggro player in your description. I understand everything now"
Do you really think i will waste my time trying to argue with someone like you? lol ok m8...