The wild meta is so toxic right now. The only decks you see when you want to climb are aggro(odd DH, odd paladin, token druid, discolock just to name a few). You hear al these things about res priest or renomage, but i can't even remember the last time i have seen one of those. It's kinda sad when you think about it because there are potentialy so many archetypes, but the minute you want to try something new you just get smashed by these decks. I hope the new XP system will at least promote using slower decks, rather than the 3 wins system which is in place right now.
sad to say i see the same uninspired garbage in casual wild. creativity and fun are not pushed nearly enough in this game. casual mode in my opinion should be for casual fun gameplay. i should be able to que up dreadsteed noggenfogger warlock in casual and not face pirate warrior token druid and kingsbane rogue. it would be nice to have some games that go past turn 4.
Yeah but then again if you know what you are facing, its easy to make a deck to counter it. I have been now 2 months in a row legend with own decks in wild. HL Hunter and HL Dragon Priest. With the priest deck druids were really easy to beat. Last month i faced 33% aggro druid and now it feels even worse. I wanted to get legend this month with quest mage but there is no chance with all those druids.
I have already reached legend with 3 classes...in old and new system. Priest, Hunter, Pala...i would like to add a class. I guess ill try Control Shaman or Control Warlock this month.
I would like to reach legend with mage, since its my main. But i dont see what deck could do it atm.
Yeah but then again if you know what you are facing, its easy to make a deck to counter it. I have been now 2 months in a row legend with own decks in wild. HL Hunter and HL Dragon Priest. With the priest deck druids were really easy to beat. Last month i faced 33% aggro druid and now it feels even worse. I wanted to get legend this month with quest mage but there is no chance with all those druids.
I have already reached legend with 3 classes...in old and new system. Priest, Hunter, Pala...i would like to add a class. I guess ill try Control Shaman or Control Warlock this month.
I would like to reach legend with mage, since its my main. But i dont see what deck could do it atm.
The wild meta is so toxic right now. The only decks you see when you want to climb are aggro(odd DH, odd paladin, token druid, discolock just to name a few). You hear al these things about res priest or renomage, but i can't even remember the last time i have seen one of those. It's kinda sad when you think about it because there are potentialy so many archetypes, but the minute you want to try something new you just get smashed by these decks. I hope the new XP system will at least promote using slower decks, rather than the 3 wins system which is in place right now.
I agree wholeheartedly. I wish blizzard gave a damn about balancing wild more. So many toxic cards need to be nerfed if only to change up the metas once in a while. Mage quest needs to be hit so they have to cast 15 or 20 spells at least. Sounds like a lot but trust me still easily achievable given the amount of ridiculous spell generators they have now. Quest reward itself needs to be nerfed to 7 or 8 mana so it can't be combo'd together so easily with other cards like Vargoth. Iceblock should be tweaked so it can't be discovered off of spell generators period.
Druid needs some serious nerfs asap, including embiggen. Embiggen needs to be 2 or 3 mana at least. At 0 it's just too ridiculous.
I've been saying res priest spells needs to be nerfed AND reworked as well. Make them spend more reasonable high cost mana for the spells and change the res'd minions to 1/1 tokens please.
But first thing's first. Blizzard has to give a damn about the format more to care about meta nerfs and buffs first.
Yeah but then again if you know what you are facing, its easy to make a deck to counter it. I have been now 2 months in a row legend with own decks in wild. HL Hunter and HL Dragon Priest. With the priest deck druids were really easy to beat. Last month i faced 33% aggro druid and now it feels even worse. I wanted to get legend this month with quest mage but there is no chance with all those druids.
I have already reached legend with 3 classes...in old and new system. Priest, Hunter, Pala...i would like to add a class. I guess ill try Control Shaman or Control Warlock this month.
I would like to reach legend with mage, since its my main. But i dont see what deck could do it atm.
Im not sure how well the hunter dekc will work right now. If you check the stats i linked in the guide of my deck, 2 months ago i met only 6% druids. The aggro type might be a problem now for this deck. I havent played the deck tho in the last month.
With my priest im again on Diamond 3. This works pretty decent atm. In the end its just another Reno-Raza Priest where i added few different cards that i like from the regular priests to have more motivation to play the deck :)
Mate wild is pretty balanced now. There are no darkest hour , sea naga eitch ecc.. decks.
Yeah an aggro deck like druid or kinsbane rogue can wipe you out the game on turn 4/5 but there are many.other decks that you can play to beat them like odd warrior , reno priest (and you can tech more early game spells/clears) , big shaman , cubelock , jade druid (that can get tons of armour and has so many clears) , dead mans warrior ecc..
All of these decks can make it to legend with at least 65% 70 % winrate if you play them right and you put the right techs in your deck. All of these can beat other control too thanks to the combo that they play.
Anyway with the actual meta you can't play "wacky" midrangy or lower tier decks .. like pure libram paladin , even hunter , odd shaman , galakrond otk rogue , quest mage (yeah against aggro is quite bad..) , patron warrior , mech hunter and many others ....
For example last month i got legend playng reno priest mostly and it has been quite easy and very fun. And anyway there are many aggro decks that are super fun to play , like kingsbane rogue or discard warlock (that can draw entire deck in a short time or create crazy turns with darkglore).
If you really hate aggro i suggest you to play odd warrior .. anyway if you really got beaten up a lot by deck i suggest you to play that deck so you can understand better the weakness of it!
Enjoy mate and remember that wild had a way worse meta during his history. Pirate warrior era, pre nerf quest mage , naga sea witch , secret paladin , darkest hour , mecha cthun warlock, face shaman ... those were all overpowered archetype at the time..
This is the best wild site on the internet , it will show by class all the best decks that are made by pro and used to climb legend ladder or to get there. Ofc there are no "wacky" "fun" decks but if you really want to win and not feel cool to pay a low tier deck i suggest you to check this.
There are so many options right now for getting good winrate and great fun... and anyway there is also a tier list with more then 30 archettypse!
Ofc you can net deck and then its about you change somd cards and fit it in your taste and playstyle or how the meta you find!
I've tried so many combo decks and every time I get my combo ruined by Dirty rat, by Skulking geist, Illucia, so i've decided to just simply play aggro if people like to screw decks around.
Let's all play control again so these guys can have fun ruining our fun. Yeah sure. What goes around, comes around buddy.
If you counter aggros often, just work your deck to clear the boards easily. I play HL DH atm and aggro will mean win for me.
Only deck that is super annoying in wild is quest mage. Especially when they turned evocation to 2 cost, it cant be removed any more by skulking geist.
Same here. I farm aggro net decks to reach legend each months with control decks (Razakus or Renolock most times) but at some point where the fuck is the fun? As far as I’m concerned, I’m addicted so having fun is not the point, but I don’t see how « normal » people can get into this game.
I farmed aggro decks with a slightly teched Big Shaman to legend last season. They are no issue, really. You just have to dodge good Raza priest, other highlander and cubelock players, and you are good to go.
My point wasn't really the balance of the game, I think wild is in a pretty decent spot meta-wise. Like others have said, the variety has been much worse in the past
The point is that the wild meta is so fast because everyone is playing aggro to rank up fast. When i encouter embiggen druid for the third time in a row it doesn't matter if i win or lose, it gonna be boring experience for both players anyways. The problem is that the game rewards those who play aggro more than control players, even if aggro deck have a lower winrate.
My point wasn't really the balance of the game, I think wild is in a pretty decent spot meta-wise. Like others have said, the variety has been much worse in the past
The point is that the wild meta is so fast because everyone is playing aggro to rank up fast. When i encouter embiggen druid for the third time in a row it doesn't matter if i win or lose, it gonna be boring experience for both players anyways. The problem is that the game rewards those who play aggro more than control players, even if aggro deck have a lower winrate.
This is built into the game, and it will only change if the best aggro players with the best decks barely break 50% with control decks in the 60% range.
Feel free to do, what i do against DruidFucktards mostly - Rope, rope, rope and rope some more... EVERY single turn... I am used to longer games, and i'll enjoy them..!
If these monkeys with an IQ equal to that of a goldfish wanna stuff aggro up my ass - they can enjoy longer gametimes themself...
The wild meta is so toxic right now. The only decks you see when you want to climb are aggro(odd DH, odd paladin, token druid, discolock just to name a few). You hear al these things about res priest or renomage, but i can't even remember the last time i have seen one of those. It's kinda sad when you think about it because there are potentialy so many archetypes, but the minute you want to try something new you just get smashed by these decks. I hope the new XP system will at least promote using slower decks, rather than the 3 wins system which is in place right now.
sad to say i see the same uninspired garbage in casual wild. creativity and fun are not pushed nearly enough in this game. casual mode in my opinion should be for casual fun gameplay. i should be able to que up dreadsteed noggenfogger warlock in casual and not face pirate warrior token druid and kingsbane rogue. it would be nice to have some games that go past turn 4.
MMMmmmmmm...Acceptable.
Yeah but then again if you know what you are facing, its easy to make a deck to counter it. I have been now 2 months in a row legend with own decks in wild. HL Hunter and HL Dragon Priest. With the priest deck druids were really easy to beat. Last month i faced 33% aggro druid and now it feels even worse. I wanted to get legend this month with quest mage but there is no chance with all those druids.
I have already reached legend with 3 classes...in old and new system. Priest, Hunter, Pala...i would like to add a class. I guess ill try Control Shaman or Control Warlock this month.
I would like to reach legend with mage, since its my main. But i dont see what deck could do it atm.
Do you have a decklist for your HL hunter?
This is why I have to play Odd warrior.
when i play discolock i face almost only priests and aggro decks, when i switch to renomage i face only priests
funny thing that disco became something decent, i climbed from 10 bronze to 5 gold lol
I agree wholeheartedly. I wish blizzard gave a damn about balancing wild more. So many toxic cards need to be nerfed if only to change up the metas once in a while. Mage quest needs to be hit so they have to cast 15 or 20 spells at least. Sounds like a lot but trust me still easily achievable given the amount of ridiculous spell generators they have now. Quest reward itself needs to be nerfed to 7 or 8 mana so it can't be combo'd together so easily with other cards like Vargoth. Iceblock should be tweaked so it can't be discovered off of spell generators period.
Druid needs some serious nerfs asap, including embiggen. Embiggen needs to be 2 or 3 mana at least. At 0 it's just too ridiculous.
I've been saying res priest spells needs to be nerfed AND reworked as well. Make them spend more reasonable high cost mana for the spells and change the res'd minions to 1/1 tokens please.
But first thing's first. Blizzard has to give a damn about the format more to care about meta nerfs and buffs first.
Hunter:
https://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1365397-legendary-zuljin
Priest:
https://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1367099-legend-dragon-raza
Im not sure how well the hunter dekc will work right now. If you check the stats i linked in the guide of my deck, 2 months ago i met only 6% druids. The aggro type might be a problem now for this deck. I havent played the deck tho in the last month.
With my priest im again on Diamond 3. This works pretty decent atm. In the end its just another Reno-Raza Priest where i added few different cards that i like from the regular priests to have more motivation to play the deck :)
Mate wild is pretty balanced now. There are no darkest hour , sea naga eitch ecc.. decks.
Yeah an aggro deck like druid or kinsbane rogue can wipe you out the game on turn 4/5 but there are many.other decks that you can play to beat them like odd warrior , reno priest (and you can tech more early game spells/clears) , big shaman , cubelock , jade druid (that can get tons of armour and has so many clears) , dead mans warrior ecc..
All of these decks can make it to legend with at least 65% 70 % winrate if you play them right and you put the right techs in your deck. All of these can beat other control too thanks to the combo that they play.
Anyway with the actual meta you can't play "wacky" midrangy or lower tier decks .. like pure libram paladin , even hunter , odd shaman , galakrond otk rogue , quest mage (yeah against aggro is quite bad..) , patron warrior , mech hunter and many others ....
For example last month i got legend playng reno priest mostly and it has been quite easy and very fun. And anyway there are many aggro decks that are super fun to play , like kingsbane rogue or discard warlock (that can draw entire deck in a short time or create crazy turns with darkglore).
If you really hate aggro i suggest you to play odd warrior .. anyway if you really got beaten up a lot by deck i suggest you to play that deck so you can understand better the weakness of it!
Enjoy mate and remember that wild had a way worse meta during his history. Pirate warrior era, pre nerf quest mage , naga sea witch , secret paladin , darkest hour , mecha cthun warlock, face shaman ... those were all overpowered archetype at the time..
PRIEST
https://hearthstone-decks.net/wild-decks/
This is the best wild site on the internet , it will show by class all the best decks that are made by pro and used to climb legend ladder or to get there. Ofc there are no "wacky" "fun" decks but if you really want to win and not feel cool to pay a low tier deck i suggest you to check this.
There are so many options right now for getting good winrate and great fun... and anyway there is also a tier list with more then 30 archettypse!
Ofc you can net deck and then its about you change somd cards and fit it in your taste and playstyle or how the meta you find!
PRIEST
but who is to blame though ?
I've tried so many combo decks and every time I get my combo ruined by Dirty rat, by Skulking geist, Illucia, so i've decided to just simply play aggro if people like to screw decks around.
Let's all play control again so these guys can have fun ruining our fun. Yeah sure. What goes around, comes around buddy.
If you counter aggros often, just work your deck to clear the boards easily. I play HL DH atm and aggro will mean win for me.
Only deck that is super annoying in wild is quest mage. Especially when they turned evocation to 2 cost, it cant be removed any more by skulking geist.
Same here. I farm aggro net decks to reach legend each months with control decks (Razakus or Renolock most times) but at some point where the fuck is the fun? As far as I’m concerned, I’m addicted so having fun is not the point, but I don’t see how « normal » people can get into this game.
Take a walk on the wild side...
Hah! I love ruining combo decks. Dirty rat, changing opponent hero power, skulking geist etc. super funny to ruin all those big plans.
Even brann + unseen saboteur is super funny vs libram paladin, when you steal those +1/+1 XDDD
I farmed aggro decks with a slightly teched Big Shaman to legend last season. They are no issue, really. You just have to dodge good Raza priest, other highlander and cubelock players, and you are good to go.
My version:
Ok, this falls squarely into the cheesy and hated "explosive control" category, but it is cheap and it works if you see too much aggro.
Editor of the Heartpwn Legendary Crafting Guide:
https://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/card-discussion/205920-legendary-tier-list-crafting-guide
My point wasn't really the balance of the game, I think wild is in a pretty decent spot meta-wise. Like others have said, the variety has been much worse in the past
The point is that the wild meta is so fast because everyone is playing aggro to rank up fast. When i encouter embiggen druid for the third time in a row it doesn't matter if i win or lose, it gonna be boring experience for both players anyways. The problem is that the game rewards those who play aggro more than control players, even if aggro deck have a lower winrate.
This is built into the game, and it will only change if the best aggro players with the best decks barely break 50% with control decks in the 60% range.
Editor of the Heartpwn Legendary Crafting Guide:
https://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/card-discussion/205920-legendary-tier-list-crafting-guide
Feel free to do, what i do against DruidFucktards mostly - Rope, rope, rope and rope some more... EVERY single turn... I am used to longer games, and i'll enjoy them..!
If these monkeys with an IQ equal to that of a goldfish wanna stuff aggro up my ass - they can enjoy longer gametimes themself...
Yes, im salty as fuck.
Here's my answer: Tinder Druid completely shuts down aggro decks. Have some fun laddering with this:
https://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1368393-gaduks-tinder-druid-wild-anti-aggro-control-fun