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I was happy when I opened it in golden. I'm only playing Warlock, so collecting all the class cards (even if they are crap) is important for me. And I have some hope for a Big Warlock in the future. Has to be a reason for the 8 mana price. Have some potential, just look at expensive charge minions, deathrattle synergy or whatever... Finding big minions constatnly from a spell-based control deck sounds fun. Maybe it could perform well in a less silence-heavy meta.
And yeah, failed Juggler + Umbra OTK makes me sad too (but it is reasonable).
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My girlfriend cure my salt perfectly. When I'm on pepper mode she says "Are you a f*cking retard? It's just a game. Calm down!" Then I'll be more salty and ragequit cause she's right. After calm down I play some Heroes of the Storm to reload my salt-o-meter.
Solution 2: Get some cats and pet them. Easy.
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You are one of the most competent Warlock guy on this site, so I have to ask: "How do you deal with the Skull of the Man'ari+Azari, the Devourer anti-synergy?" Simply do not play the weapon in control matches (and don't gain advantage with free Voidlord on trun 6 for example)? These two cards in the same deck always seems weird for me.
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Downvoting a deck has to be totally OK, it is just a way to express your opinion. It could be annoying when someone do it without constructive criticism but we have to deal with it. Downvote and comment comes in pair from me for a reason. This is a site which doesn’t isolated from reality. Hearthpwn gives information, is a place for discussions and not just a clear dopamine source like facebook. Negative criticism is essential when we rate any production or creative process.
I give a downvote when
Please leve a comment when you downvote, thats it! Make your opinion more meaningful.
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The truth is that I like this site more than the game itself.
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It seems there are some misunderstanding between us. I mean you need to pay mana some way to damage your hero (Flame Imp for example). And you need to damage your hero to increase Nethersoul Buster's attack. So in usual cases it is weaker than a Pit Lord. One of the best cases is Crystallizer + Nethersoul Buster but it is a 4 mana 6/5 + the 1/3 body. Can you consistently do it? Worth it? I don't think so, but we'll see. Almost the same problem as Duskbat was, imo.
For Mecha'thun: Build a Zoo deck with 3 or less cost cards, add Galvanizer, Hemet, Jungle Hunter, Dark Pact, Twisting Nether, and the BigF*ckingEye. If you have Galvanizer+Dark Pact in your hand, play Hemet as soon as you draw it. Next turn you will draw Nether, or C'thun, and have to play all of your remaining small Zoo stuffs out. When you draw C'thun, play Galvanizer + Nether, next turn win with Eye+Dark Pact. That's my way to do it. :D
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I greet you!
Let's (mis)evaluate all of the new Warlock cards and the related neutral ones in one thread. (Yeah, I'm tired of reading many of different threads for all of the cards.) I share my short ideas and impressions and I'm courius about your opinions. I'm focusing on Standard format.
This thread isn't a deck sharing one, just share constructive thinking about the cards, possible combos and value plays, etc.
Warlock cards
Let's talk about the "potential" category. These cards seems mediocre or bad but I'm really happy because of their existence. They have unique, interesting effect and these have some potential in the future. They are good for testing their mechanical implementation like "what could the players do with these type of cards?". This happened in the past many times, teased an effect and printed some of them later (like Cho'gall and Bloodbloom for example).
Dr. Morrigan
I hope we hardly misevaluate this card like we did with Rin. The effect is super cool, you have probably two option. First: you can go infinite (just remember our lovely Dreadsteeds, RIP), or you can cycle big cards (mostly taunt, value or charge finisher) from your deck almost constantly. The real problem is the cost, it's overpriced enough and it is extremely vulnerable to silence. Cards like Baleful Banker and Tomb Lurker works well with her. So the potential is here, but it's to slow yet. If you want to win fatigue games you'll pick Rin instead, so the second option needs to be more thinking.
Ectomancy
This card makes me think of using [card]Bloodbloom[/card]. My hand has almost touched my "trallala" when I realized it is clearly a win more card like Sudden Genesis and way too demon specific, BUT it is the first Warlock spell since DOOM! which maybe worth running with one of my favourite card, so it's great some wierd way. For example a 4 mana 7/7+ bloom+ this could even worth it in the future. Worth mention the Skull of the Man'ari value. So it has potential but smells too "win more" yet.
Demonic Project
The ultimate combo breaker, the soul of Dirty Rat and so on... Project cards in general is an interesting conception. If you play a spell heavy control deck (dumb example: infinite Dr. Morrigan deck) then this is a gamplan destroyer without any drawback (almost). If the meta won't be infested by combo decks then this card seems really bad.
See the "Zoo package". It seems that in this expansion demon oriented midrange deck is the main target. I'm a control player but I could live with this direction (and sort amount of disappontment :D). Cards...
Soul Infusion
"Hey guys, we're Team5! Do you remember that we had tried handbuff mechanic with 3 different classes and none of them worked?
Do you? Great! So let's try now with Warlock too!"
It's wierd but it could work this time. The dream with Omega Agent / Doubling Imp / Saronite Chain Gang will probably barely happen, BUT people played Demonfire and Bloodfury Potion in the near past in their demon zoo deck, and [cardSoul Infusion[/card] is cheaper and non-demon specific in return for lacking burst potential. A 4/6 taunt on Turn 2 seems good enough to me.
Void Analyst
It is a worse Crystalweaver. I can't feel it yet. Horrible topdeck, vulnerable to silence and steal, too situational. In aggressive zoo Prince Keleseth is way better. In a more midrange, slower demonlock it doesn't do too much in my opinion. It's a "meh" for me.
Doubling Imp
This card is good even by itself. Buffing it with Keleseth, or one of the two cards above it's a really good tempo play. Every Zoo and midrange demonlock will run 2 of these.
The Soularium
OP OP OP! There isn't too much to say. Aggressive card, usually it is a draw 3 play 2, finisher finder, better Tracking in overall.
Some of you mentioned Quest Warlock and maybe it could work. This card is a 1 mana "complete half of your quest without drawback" because discarding cards from your deck means nothing to you, it's like those cards stay at the bottom of your deck. So your quest is discard 3 cards and you don't have to play a half control + half aggressive strategy, just play 1x Doomguard and 1x Soulfire. Sounds easy but The Soularium is a legendary spell and you probably can't draw it consistently in your first 4 turns. Worth a try.
Nethersoul Buster
I don't like this card so much, seems really weak to me. if you count the mana cost of hurting yourself then this is a 4 mana 5/5 on avarage. Underwhelming version of Floating Watcher or Darkshire Councilman. I would rather play Pit Lord instead.
And the rest of...
Spirit Bomb
I can't evaluate this card yet. Is it too much compensation to lose 4 Health instead of one more mana and play Shadow Bolt? Will hurt yourself Warlock be a real thing and do you need these bombs on those lists? I think it won't see any play in control decks. In zoo and midrange decks... there isn't too much space for Spirit Bomb. Instead of Soulfire to prevent discard in slower midrange demonlock maybe worth a try.
Omega Agent
This is a hard question and probably equal to "will slower midrange demonlock be a real thing?". Wait it with Soul Infusion to buff and hold in hand until you have 10 mana... nice play but is it worth it? Is it a win condition? We'll see. If you can play it with 10 mana then it is a fast and strong board presence.
Neutral cards
(Will update this later, I have to work too, b*tch!)
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"Hey guys, we're Team5!
Do you remember that we had tried handbuff mechanic with 3 different classes and none of them worked?
Do you? Great! So let's try now with Warlock too!"
It's wierd but it could work this time. The dream with Omega Agent / Doubling Imp / Saronite Chain Gang will probably barely happen, BUT people played Demonfire and Bloodfury Potion in the near past in their demon zoo deck, and Soul Infusion is cheaper and non-demon specific in return for lacking burst potential. A 4/6 taunt on turn 2 seems good enough to me.
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Hmmmm! This card makes me think of Bloodbloom.
My hand has almost touched my "trallala" when I realized it is clearly a win more card, BUT it is the first Warlock spell since DOOM! which maybe worth running with one of my favourite card, so it's great some wierd way. (4 mana 7/7+ bloom+ this... could even worth it in the future)
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I will play a “f*ck your gameplan” warlock. I hope everyone will try some juicy combo deck and I want to destroy their dreams.
*evil laugh*
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Have anyone mentioned Tomb Lurker? Multiply the fun!
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Dr. Morrigan + Baleful Banker + Knife Juggler + Spiritsinger Umbra and no other minions on your decklist.
Exodia Warlock is here! For the MEMES!!!!
But honestly, will it go back to your deck if it has no minions left in it? I dunno... It is a good card for testing something, but unplayable in laddering (with the actual recent cardpool). If you want to win your fatigue game then Rin will be your best friend not this dona.
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Can you draw this before you draw Anto/Maly? Can you draw your Anto/Maly after that?
If both anwser is yes then the win is probably yours, else you probably lose. Fun to play with and against. So much interaction! This could lead to unhealty meta or nerf/HoF of some beloved old classic cards. :/
If these combo cards are infest the game then my only choice will be a gnomeferatu + rin + treachery + howlfiend + demon project deck. Named “f*ck your gamplan”.
(Salt: Off)
I hope that 7 mana do nothing on your turn is enough tempo loss to be unplayable.
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Ohh guys! Thanks for the mention! These nice words could easily bring me back to this game. :,)
So my part of this discuss: don’t want to repeat all of you but I love jainaishot’s works, impossible to not mention his sense of humor and the power of those lists.
My vote is on Maximal18. He’s a mostly a handlock guy and I know how much testing are in those lists and I like his in depth guides. His Demon handlock deck will always be one of my favourite creation on this site. (...and back in some time he had helped me a lot to understand what handlock really is.)
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I would invest in stock market rather than Hearthstone in these days. :)