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Quote from DiamondDM13 >>

What exactly is your point? You went up against a bad matchup and lost. A Control deck, which obviously is full of Board Clears and Removal tools, what did you actually expect?

Seriously, there's complaining about broken cards and then there is just venting frustration outside of the Salt Thread, which is what you are doing.

When the game started, your chances to win were really slim as the Warlock, specially the Control version, is massively favoured against you. You would have to line-up a pretty good draw and also be capable of outplaying your opponent to get a win from that game, but you didn't, so you lost.

Aside from that, nothing new there. You would be complaining basically the same way if that was a hyper Control Warrior instead of a Hyper Control Warlock. Tools are different but the result is almost the same, they would crush you out of resources.

Quote from Kakutov >>

Still better than skillful Mage that plays Arcane Missiles on turn 1 as its a good play.

Quote from DatOrc >>

 Geez! It's what you want right? Control.

Quote from ColinthePyro >>

Hyper control or OTK

fun and interactive

Quote from hillandder >>

And to make things worse, they miss the cards needed nerfs, the changes are absolutely irrelevant, DK warlock remain again untouched.

It is broken cards after broken cards after more broken cards, the class is perfectly with any weakness at all.

Why they refuse to massively overnerf this insane and absurd card is beyond any excuse.

Hello guys !

Replay here : https://hsreplay.net/replay/B94DZidbgzfXJnU5g3kN37

I can't stand Warlocks anymore, they have to many board clears, to many removal, to many heals, and the "nerf" wont do anything against them. I don't want to play this BS I'm not like that even if I could, but how can you make things so unbalanced ?? 

This isn't a post to whine, I want to get constructive answers to this seriously big problem : what am I supposed to do against this board clear control BS and the 70% of people playing it, even with the perfect draws and what seems to be winning hands and board states  ?

Board clears, heals and removal count , good luck : 

Siphon Soul x2
Dark Pact x2
Twisting Nether x2
Defile x2
Hellfire x2
Lesser Amethyst Spellstone x2
Lord Godfrey
Bloodreaver Gul'dan

Link to the game replay : https://hsreplay.net/replay/B94DZidbgzfXJnU5g3kN3

Really cool deck, didn't play it much, but I had some nice and super fun games with it, refreshing, thanks ! 

Quote from JosarHearth >>

The issue is, the best decks are found so quickly that experimentation produces little reward. The internet means it only takes a few days to begin to stabilize, but this is also good because then you know what to play.

It is a really big problem for me since it simplifies the process of deck creation and all the tought process based arround it. Players don't try to think about synergies and complex Hearthstone mechanisms, and simply copy / paste and play a netdeck unti they possibly master it. What's more, it encourages players to buy packs to "construct" a specific deck, instead of playing with the cards they have and trying to progressively build it or replace cards with others...

Hello fellow Hearthstoners !

When the Witchwood expansion was announced, and more precisely, when the Witch's Cauldron was revealed, I wondered if there was a way to make this card work.

Some of you who might know that I always try to come up with something creative but efficient (most of the time), and I think I found a way to make the Witch's Cauldron work.

Deck link :  http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1112749-cauldrons-and-minions

What do you think about this deck ? Do you have any ideas about making it better ? 

I'm looking forward your answers !

Quote from jwbrain >>

One pretty crazy way to complete it in standard would be to play Nerubian Unraveler and play Carnivorous Cube on it, then the next turn play King Togwaggle and Rebuke, then kill off you Cube. Or copy the Cube with Faceless Manipulator or Prince Taldaram and pop both without playing Rebuke.

Quote from melheor >>

I like the idea of cubing + faceless manipulating the Nerubian as that would push the cost over 10 mana. The problem is that this is a very fragile solution that will probably fall apart more often than not for the following reasons:

• You can't play Nerubian Unraveler and cube it on same turn because that costs 11 mana
• I don't see a quick/clean way to consistently destroy your cubes as a Paladin, but if you're no longer relying on Rebuke, that may not be a problem
• All in all, with Nerubian Unraveler this combo will take at least 3 turns to execute, by which time the opponent will probably kill you or your plan

What we really need to do is trick the opponent into playing Millhouse Manastorm so we can cast 2 rebukes in 1 turn and play Togwaggle at the same time.

Quote from KungFuPasta >>

Love the concept!

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Quote from Trimutius >>

You can also run druid quest. If you discount togwaggle or Azalina then you are golden...

Absolutely, but the quest can sometimes be difficult to achieve, and nothing assures you that you won't draw Azalina Soulthief and King Togwaggle before accomplishing and playing your quest. But I've got to try it, it is a pretty good idea ! :)

Completing the quest is pretty easy now that we have Oaken Summons and Cursed Disciple. Add couple of big minions like Furious Ettin, The Lich King, Alexstrasza, and you can often complete it before you cast Ultimate Infestation.

While Azalina is useful, Togwaggle + 2x Naturalize is often good enough to burn the ransom. And there are also other tricks you can pull, such as swapping your empty deck for theirs, then Naturalizing two minions: this adds up to 15 fatigue damage before they even have a chance to swap back. Since you're playing a deck with only 5+ attack minions, chances are you can get them to 15 health or lower by the time you've used your entire deck.

  Hi and thanks to all of you for you answers !

Quote from Trimutius >>

You can also run druid quest. If you discount togwaggle or Azalina then you are golden...

Quote from DiamondDM13 >>

Just a couple of things:

1 - Even if you Rebuke, the Ransom costs 10 so they can still play it, they just spend the entire turn doing it.

2 - Why are you even asking us what we think about it or if it could be viable if you already self titled the deck as "Meta Breaker"?

Quote from Gnawlie >>

It’s possible in standard, I threw in the package in my taunt Druid deck just for some jokes and it’ll go off every now and then. I wouldn’t ever really count on it as a win condition however, it’s mostly for the jokes

Hi and thanks for your answer ! 

Lay on Hands is a good suggestion, since I need more card draw.
The thing is that I don't want to make this deck viable for late game since I don't want my opponent to be able to do something with these cards. That's why I didn't include Uther of the Ebon Blade or Tirion Fordring. You have to burn your deck effectively so it remains nothing of it for your opponent to play once you've swapped decks.

I'll consider playing the heal package, don't hesitate to try it out on your side and give me your feedback ! 

This card has potential which has yet to be explored.
What's more, even if it doesn't fit this meta / expansion, don't forget that it could become even better whith each of the upcoming expansions ! ;) 

Hey, thanks for your answer !

I agree regarding the fact that this should be a control deck, any idea about the cards I should include ? I'll work on it on my side too :)