For two that's the point of wild. It has all the cards ever created available and this makes for some extremely OP'd interactions compared to standard and that's fine. As you climb in ranks you'll run into more meta decks. The fact that you named like 8 or 9 decks with an 'ect...' thrown in there suggests that there's not one or two dominant decks but many. If you don't like this play style than wild simply isn't for you.
I am rank 7 and I mostly play odd rogue and Nzoth Priest or Dragon Thief Priest (not Wall/Big Priest bullshit). I don't even have Obisidan Statute for N'zoth. Although I really take wild as my casual mode so I am not triggered when facing some cancer decks.
Currently, I find wild mode much more interesting than standard.
If you want to enjoy Wild format, you need to concede back to rank 20 whenever you get to rank 16, and concede against every druid and priest you ever come across. (Jade druid and Big priest are getting a lot worse in RoS, don't ruin your mental health trying to defeat them fairly)
It sucks but it's the only way to feel like you're playing a card game where choices matter, and see some off meta decks and cards, aka the true wild experience.
This is completely untrue.
I think Wild is fine, but then I'm a Pirate Warrior/Secret Anyfin Paladin/Reno player so I guess I'm part of the problem.
You're saying you see off meta decks past rank 15 ?
What I'm saying applies to the people who want to play wild with unused cards and decks, so you're not part of the problem (your 3 decks are fine to me), but of course wild feels fine when you play "win turn 5" aggro or very good combo decks.
Essentially the power level of Wild format is detrimental to itself, because big priest, jade druid, DK rexxar, Cubelock, and all the other crazy decks that combine control and combo elements are shutting down hundreds of "fair" cards and archetypes, and it feels awful when you look at your 5 years old 90% complete collection and page after page there are cards that are unplayable because of the Tier 1-2 bullies.
Anyfin paladin is fine because it is forced to play a ton of shitty cards. But even this deck shuts down a lot of things.
Sure you are right when i face a loooot of big priest i use tinkmaster and really its good!! And yes it lost its popularity but its my favourite deck i feel that EVERY matchup is winnable
I play Reno dragon priest, feels not bad on low ranks. But some sad fucks play Espionage rogue, mill rogue, big priest and other "fun" decks and try to ruin all the fun.
PS: Jade Druid is t3 currently. Are you sure you know what you're whining about?
I heard with Archmage Vargoth someone actually got to Rank 1 legend with Jade Druid again. Also, there is the new legendary Keeper Stalladris coming out soon which could add to the power by giving you more ways to generate and shuffle Jades. Not saying it's going to dominate again, but could be on the rise to t2/t1 again.
PS: Jade Druid is t3 currently. Are you sure you know what you're whining about?
I heard with Archmage Vargoth someone actually got to Rank 1 legend with Jade Druid again. Also, there is the new legendary Keeper Stalladris coming out soon which could add to the power by giving you more ways to generate and shuffle Jades. Not saying it's going to dominate again, but could be on the rise to t2/t1 again.
What would the added value of Archmage Vargoth be in jade druid though? Also I doubt Keeper Stalladris will significantly improve jade druid, as generating and shuffling jades usually isn't the deck's problem and reason why it's in tier 3 right now.
PLEASE CARD ROTATION COME QUICK!!. I CANT STAND CANCER WILD!!
Yeeees, but, I have to say, you know... all of the cards are already playable in wild, soooo... Card rotation won't change anything. If no one is playing the "standard" cards at the moment, it's because they are not powerful enough to change the wild meta. Take a break, bro...
EDIT: Maybe were you talking about the new incoming cards ? I don't think it will upset the wild meta too...
Sure you are right when i face a loooot of big priest i use tinkmaster and really its good!! And yes it lost its popularity but its my favourite deck i feel that EVERY matchup is winnable
Good for you. I was asking, because I was and still am curious about how you beat Big Priest as a Renolock.
I play Thief Priest in wild and I have an easy time against that archtype, cuz' I use stuff like Entomb and TONS of removals. How does a Reno deck manage to through all of the resurrect spells?
If you want to enjoy Wild format, you need to concede back to rank 20 whenever you get to rank 16, and concede against every druid and priest you ever come across. (Jade druid and Big priest are getting a lot worse in RoS, don't ruin your mental health trying to defeat them fairly)
It sucks but it's the only way to feel like you're playing a card game where choices matter, and see some off meta decks and cards, aka the true wild experience.
This is completely untrue.
I think Wild is fine, but then I'm a Pirate Warrior/Secret Anyfin Paladin/Reno player so I guess I'm part of the problem.
You're saying you see off meta decks past rank 15 ?
What I'm saying applies to the people who want to play wild with unused cards and decks, so you're not part of the problem (your 3 decks are fine to me), but of course wild feels fine when you play "win turn 5" aggro or very good combo decks.
Essentially the power level of Wild format is detrimental to itself, because big priest, jade druid, DK rexxar, Cubelock, and all the other crazy decks that combine control and combo elements are shutting down hundreds of "fair" cards and archetypes, and it feels awful when you look at your 5 years old 90% complete collection and page after page there are cards that are unplayable because of the Tier 1-2 bullies.
Anyfin paladin is fine because it is forced to play a ton of shitty cards. But even this deck shuts down a lot of things.
I'm saying that I see as many off-meta decks below rank 5 as above it, and I think aiming to stay at low ranks is bad advice. In all honesty I think the Standard ladder is worse for lack of diversity and meta-bullies.
All good points well made though. And although I disagree about Wild being detrimental to itself (I choose to see the opposite side of that coin) I do agree that it's sad to see so many good cards going unused because they're just not powerful enough to compete for a deck spot. That's inevitable with any card game though, just look at the number of redundant cards in Magic.
PS: Jade Druid is t3 currently. Are you sure you know what you're whining about?
I heard with Archmage Vargoth someone actually got to Rank 1 legend with Jade Druid again. Also, there is the new legendary Keeper Stalladris coming out soon which could add to the power by giving you more ways to generate and shuffle Jades. Not saying it's going to dominate again, but could be on the rise to t2/t1 again.
What would the added value of Archmage Vargoth be in jade druid though? Also I doubt Keeper Stalladris will significantly improve jade druid, as generating and shuffling jades usually isn't the deck's problem and reason why it's in tier 3 right now.
That's the point of Wild. Not for the faint of heart. Filled with cancer, broken cards, OTK combo's, MEGAMINIONS, and some of the worst BM around from the players. It's a fun place. I get far more variety there in the decks than in standard which is like three hunter decks at this point and some poor Shaman shnook thinking his elementals will really give it to those darn hunter beasts this time around.
PS: Jade Druid is t3 currently. Are you sure you know what you're whining about?
I heard with Archmage Vargoth someone actually got to Rank 1 legend with Jade Druid again. Also, there is the new legendary Keeper Stalladris coming out soon which could add to the power by giving you more ways to generate and shuffle Jades. Not saying it's going to dominate again, but could be on the rise to t2/t1 again.
What would the added value of Archmage Vargoth be in jade druid though? Also I doubt Keeper Stalladris will significantly improve jade druid, as generating and shuffling jades usually isn't the deck's problem and reason why it's in tier 3 right now.
I have tried N'zoth warrior now for a quite while and having a blast. Tho playing against Big priest is always impossible to beat and truly unfun matchup in wild. I just wish blizzard would overlook the ressurection mechanic how it interacts with tokens. It is a bit unfair that ressurecting a token into the original minion gives your opponent little fighting chance. It leaves you a really bad taste after played against Big priest.
Well, for one this is a salt thread.
For two that's the point of wild. It has all the cards ever created available and this makes for some extremely OP'd interactions compared to standard and that's fine. As you climb in ranks you'll run into more meta decks. The fact that you named like 8 or 9 decks with an 'ect...' thrown in there suggests that there's not one or two dominant decks but many. If you don't like this play style than wild simply isn't for you.
I am rank 7 and I mostly play odd rogue and Nzoth Priest or Dragon Thief Priest (not Wall/Big Priest bullshit). I don't even have Obisidan Statute for N'zoth. Although I really take wild as my casual mode so I am not triggered when facing some cancer decks.
Currently, I find wild mode much more interesting than standard.
You're saying you see off meta decks past rank 15 ?
What I'm saying applies to the people who want to play wild with unused cards and decks, so you're not part of the problem (your 3 decks are fine to me), but of course wild feels fine when you play "win turn 5" aggro or very good combo decks.
Essentially the power level of Wild format is detrimental to itself, because big priest, jade druid, DK rexxar, Cubelock, and all the other crazy decks that combine control and combo elements are shutting down hundreds of "fair" cards and archetypes, and it feels awful when you look at your 5 years old 90% complete collection and page after page there are cards that are unplayable because of the Tier 1-2 bullies.
Anyfin paladin is fine because it is forced to play a ton of shitty cards. But even this deck shuts down a lot of things.
Sure you are right when i face a loooot of big priest i use tinkmaster and really its good!! And yes it lost its popularity but its my favourite deck i feel that EVERY matchup is winnable
I play Reno dragon priest, feels not bad on low ranks. But some sad fucks play Espionage rogue, mill rogue, big priest and other "fun" decks and try to ruin all the fun.
I feel the same about standard about 3 months in. You’ll be right there with me
I heard with Archmage Vargoth someone actually got to Rank 1 legend with Jade Druid again. Also, there is the new legendary Keeper Stalladris coming out soon which could add to the power by giving you more ways to generate and shuffle Jades. Not saying it's going to dominate again, but could be on the rise to t2/t1 again.
What would the added value of Archmage Vargoth be in jade druid though? Also I doubt Keeper Stalladris will significantly improve jade druid, as generating and shuffling jades usually isn't the deck's problem and reason why it's in tier 3 right now.
Yeeees, but, I have to say, you know... all of the cards are already playable in wild, soooo... Card rotation won't change anything. If no one is playing the "standard" cards at the moment, it's because they are not powerful enough to change the wild meta. Take a break, bro...
EDIT: Maybe were you talking about the new incoming cards ? I don't think it will upset the wild meta too...
Good for you. I was asking, because I was and still am curious about how you beat Big Priest as a Renolock.
I play Thief Priest in wild and I have an easy time against that archtype, cuz' I use stuff like Entomb and TONS of removals. How does a Reno deck manage to through all of the resurrect spells?
Yeah but wild has cool combos
At least now no one can argue about the necessity of implementing a Standard rotation in the first place.
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I'm saying that I see as many off-meta decks below rank 5 as above it, and I think aiming to stay at low ranks is bad advice. In all honesty I think the Standard ladder is worse for lack of diversity and meta-bullies.
All good points well made though. And although I disagree about Wild being detrimental to itself (I choose to see the opposite side of that coin) I do agree that it's sad to see so many good cards going unused because they're just not powerful enough to compete for a deck spot. That's inevitable with any card game though, just look at the number of redundant cards in Magic.
And there's no shitty cards in my Anyfin deck. ;)
uhmm still more decks than he same three decks you see in standard
Ok, return to standard for games vs priests / hunters.
Oaken Summons for example. Pretty good.
That's the point of Wild. Not for the faint of heart. Filled with cancer, broken cards, OTK combo's, MEGAMINIONS, and some of the worst BM around from the players. It's a fun place. I get far more variety there in the decks than in standard which is like three hunter decks at this point and some poor Shaman shnook thinking his elementals will really give it to those darn hunter beasts this time around.
Oh yeah, that might work actually.
So you are complaining about every class being competitive?
I have tried N'zoth warrior now for a quite while and having a blast. Tho playing against Big priest is always impossible to beat and truly unfun matchup in wild. I just wish blizzard would overlook the ressurection mechanic how it interacts with tokens. It is a bit unfair that ressurecting a token into the original minion gives your opponent little fighting chance. It leaves you a really bad taste after played against Big priest.