Am I the only one that feels that this is one of the first expansions that has been releasing potentially very "good" cards overall? Basically no card revelead until now feels too weak and all them feel good without looking super op.
I think it's a hindsight thing. Tons of sets have released interesting cards that seemed balanced to people, but after a month of the set being out everyone realizes most of the cards are awful in practice.
Until now it seems as the perfect expansion: new mechanics mixed with old ones, lot of playable but not broken cards, nice mix between aggro and control cards.
I wouldn't say that. I was super hyped for both ungoro and KFT. I think ungoro was high power but fair. KnC I didn't enjoy at all, because the game reached a critical mass of overpowered cards where everything created a stupidly unfair combo. The weapons in particular were terrible. Either they were grossly overpowered like kingsbane, skull of the manari, or aluneth, or they were hilariously bad. Only valyanr (SPL?) was middle ground.
I do agree the last three expansions have been very...meh. I get they needed to decrease the power level, but also the themes were uninteresting, and the single player was too similar to dungeon run. It would have been a lot smarter to do something WoW lore intensive while dropping the power level, but oh well. At least this is looking like a great set.
I wouldn't say that. I was super hyped for both ungoro and KFT. Kobolds I didn't enjoy at all, because the game reached a critical mass of overpowered cards where everything created a stupidly unfair combo. The weapons in particular were terrible. Either they were grossly overpowered like kingsbane, skull of the manari, or aluneth, or they were hilariously bad. Only valyanr (SPL?) was middle ground.
I do agree the last three expansions have been very...meh. I get they needed to decrease the power level, but also the themes were uninteresting, and the single player was too similar to dungeon run. It would have been a lot smarter to do something WoW lore intensive while dropping the power level, but oh well. At least this is looking like a great set.
year of the raven was very post-urza tier for hearthstone, which was for the best to reset what to expect for standard play going forward.
I think it's a hindsight thing. Tons of sets have released interesting cards that seemed balanced to people, but after a month of the set being out everyone realizes most of the cards are awful in practice.
I think it's a hindsight thing. Tons of sets have released interesting cards that seemed balanced to people, but after a month of the set being out everyone realizes most of the cards are awful in practice.
I actually disagree with this in regards to last years sets, this has been the most exciting and interesting reveal out of the past 4 sets without a doubt imo
We all are so tired from last meta. That's why you think like that.
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This is my first rotation and im really hyped cause the first few days i ll test many things included the Last years benchwarmers. Yeah i think the cards are interesting but i hope it balance with my older collection. Time to deck brewin!
I just dont like the theme, thats why I am not hyped at all. Loved KFT theme obv because I loved playing WC3FT and WoW. Ungoro was sweat because I like big beasts, dinos and the ungoro crater from WoW. This one could be a bit related to WotLk due to Dalaran but it still doesnt appeal to me, I dont like the villains (Hagatha, Toggwaggle are just meh..), but we will see, maybe they will bring up some iconic characters :/
EDIT: and regarding cards with powerlevel: meh. nothing special so far.
Am I the only one that feels that this is one of the first expansions that has been releasing potentially very "good" cards overall? Basically no card revelead until now feels too weak and all them feel good without looking super op.
Would definitely disagree that no revealed card feels weak. The warrior scheme is a candidate for worst card ever released. And there are definitely others that won't see play in any meaningful way.
That said, the last few days of reveals contain interesting cards so I am cautiously hopefully for the set.
Am I the only one that feels that this is one of the first expansions that has been releasing potentially very "good" cards overall? Basically no card revelead until now feels too weak and all them feel good without looking super op.
I'd say just about every expansion had this sort of promise from the reveal season before launch. Maybe not all to the same degree, but I have never seen an expansion were the general consensus was that the set is "weak" before launch, except maybe for TGT.
Every set introduces new mechanics and shows cards with unique effects that look good in theory. What comes out of it afterwards depends on many different factors, such as whether new mechanics mix well with old cards, whether the advantage gained through a new mechanic can compete with that of old mechanics, what direction the meta takes and what strategies can succeed in it. All these things, and of course the tendency to underrate and overrate and make wild predictions about how things turn out, frequently lead to huge discrepancies between the initial and the final assessments of cards and sets.
Also, it should be kept in mind that the reveal season focuses mostly on legendary and epic cards, and more on class cards than neutrals. More than half the cards of a set are commons and rares, and over 30 of them are neutral. They tend to be revealed last, and they tend to be very underwhelming, and are often considered "pack fillers" or "arena cards". In other words, it is normal to get hyped during the reveal season because the flashy, unique and interesting cards are higlighted instead of the bulk of boring cards. Yet those still significantly impact a set's overall quality, because most classes can't make use of new mechanics without support from neutral cards.
Anyway, RoS doesn't look much better to me than other sets beforehand. And I strongly doubt it will be as impactful as KnC with almost 70 (read: HALF the set) cards that ended up in meta decks. NO other set even came close to this beforehand, not even temporarily.
I'm not saying RoS will be weak, but from what I've seen so far, I don't expect it to be as strong as KnC. With the reevaluation of Boomsday and Rumble and Witchwood, the changes are hard to predict, and I simply hesitate to say that everything will revolve around Shadows now.
I'd say just about every expansion had this sort of promise from the reveal season before launch. Maybe not all to the same degree, but I have never seen an expansion were the general consensus was that the set is "weak" before launch, except maybe for TGT.
Every set introduces new mechanics and shows cards with unique effects that look good in theory. What comes out of it afterwards depends on many different factors, such as whether new mechanics mix well with old cards, whether the advantage gained through a new mechanic can compete with that of old mechanics, what direction the meta takes and what strategies can succeed in it. All these things, and of course the tendency to underrate and overrate and make wild predictions about how things turn out, frequently lead to huge discrepancies between the initial and the final assessments of cards and sets.
Also, it should be kept in mind that the reveal season focuses mostly on legendary and epic cards, and more on class cards than neutrals. More than half the cards of a set are commons and rares, and over 30 of them are neutral. They tend to be revealed last, and they tend to be very underwhelming, and are often considered "pack fillers" or "arena cards". In other words, it is normal to get hyped during the reveal season because the flashy, unique and interesting cards are higlighted instead of the bulk of boring cards. Yet those still significantly impact a set's overall quality, because most classes can't make use of new mechanics without support from neutral cards.
Anyway, RoS doesn't look much better to me than other sets beforehand. And I strongly doubt it will be as impactful as KnC with almost 70 (read: HALF the set) cards that ended up in meta decks. NO other set even came close to this beforehand, not even temporarily.
I'm not saying RoS will be weak, but I from what I've seen so far, I don't expect it to be as strong as KnC. With the reevaluation of Boomsday and Rumble and Witchwood, the changes are hard to predict, and I simply hesitate to say that everything will revolve around Shadows now.
Well it's healthy if that much cards are not used .KnC was powercreep as well as KoFT, and they ruined the game.
I'd say just about every expansion had this sort of promise from the reveal season before launch. Maybe not all to the same degree, but I have never seen an expansion were the general consensus was that the set is "weak" before launch, except maybe for TGT.
Every set introduces new mechanics and shows cards with unique effects that look good in theory. What comes out of it afterwards depends on many different factors, such as whether new mechanics mix well with old cards, whether the advantage gained through a new mechanic can compete with that of old mechanics, what direction the meta takes and what strategies can succeed in it. All these things, and of course the tendency to underrate and overrate and make wild predictions about how things turn out, frequently lead to huge discrepancies between the initial and the final assessments of cards and sets.
Also, it should be kept in mind that the reveal season focuses mostly on legendary and epic cards, and more on class cards than neutrals. More than half the cards of a set are commons and rares, and over 30 of them are neutral. They tend to be revealed last, and they tend to be very underwhelming, and are often considered "pack fillers" or "arena cards". In other words, it is normal to get hyped during the reveal season because the flashy, unique and interesting cards are higlighted instead of the bulk of boring cards. Yet those still significantly impact a set's overall quality, because most classes can't make use of new mechanics without support from neutral cards.
Anyway, RoS doesn't look much better to me than other sets beforehand. And I strongly doubt it will be as impactful as KnC with almost 70 (read: HALF the set) cards that ended up in meta decks. NO other set even came close to this beforehand, not even temporarily.
I'm not saying RoS will be weak, but from what I've seen so far, I don't expect it to be as strong as KnC. With the reevaluation of Boomsday and Rumble and Witchwood, the changes are hard to predict, and I simply hesitate to say that everything will revolve around Shadows now.
Good, that isn't what we want either. A healthy balance of underused cards already in existence and some of the cool mechanics from this set mixed in
Interested to see the Priest card with Tyrande art that isn't a legendary. Will be epic and epic I reckon
I do not know if you mean it will be epic (as a rarity) or that it will be spectacular haha, but Priest has already been given his 2 epic cards.
I still hope it is for Priest (it's my favourite class), although I doubt it very much, it looks like a druid or neutral card. Someone said there was a card for Priest for which people were going to hallucinate how strong it was, I hope it is that card.
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Am I the only one that feels that this is one of the first expansions that has been releasing potentially very "good" cards overall? Basically no card revelead until now feels too weak and all them feel good without looking super op.
Maybe... nah nah nah nah
I think it's a hindsight thing. Tons of sets have released interesting cards that seemed balanced to people, but after a month of the set being out everyone realizes most of the cards are awful in practice.
People hyped up Chameleos and Troggzor the Earthinator after all.
I sense and share your hype!
Until now it seems as the perfect expansion: new mechanics mixed with old ones, lot of playable but not broken cards, nice mix between aggro and control cards.
#hyped
I wouldn't say that. I was super hyped for both ungoro and KFT. I think ungoro was high power but fair. KnC I didn't enjoy at all, because the game reached a critical mass of overpowered cards where everything created a stupidly unfair combo. The weapons in particular were terrible. Either they were grossly overpowered like kingsbane, skull of the manari, or aluneth, or they were hilariously bad. Only valyanr (SPL?) was middle ground.
I do agree the last three expansions have been very...meh. I get they needed to decrease the power level, but also the themes were uninteresting, and the single player was too similar to dungeon run. It would have been a lot smarter to do something WoW lore intensive while dropping the power level, but oh well. At least this is looking like a great set.
I do think it's setting up a very enjoyable meta where every class find their place.
year of the raven was very post-urza tier for hearthstone, which was for the best to reset what to expect for standard play going forward.
Chameleos can still see play just Priest needs to not suck after rotation.
I actually disagree with this in regards to last years sets, this has been the most exciting and interesting reveal out of the past 4 sets without a doubt imo
the expamsion is doing very well and i am very hyped
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Yeah I can agree. From all the cards they revealed till now I only found a few disappointing cards. I am so hyped.
We all are so tired from last meta. That's why you think like that.
Memedeck-seeker. Always tries to build new decks. Hates tournements, streamers, netdecks and poor-o players.
ah, but a tournement mode could be great !!!
This is my first rotation and im really hyped cause the first few days i ll test many things included the Last years benchwarmers. Yeah i think the cards are interesting but i hope it balance with my older collection. Time to deck brewin!
I just dont like the theme, thats why I am not hyped at all. Loved KFT theme obv because I loved playing WC3FT and WoW. Ungoro was sweat because I like big beasts, dinos and the ungoro crater from WoW. This one could be a bit related to WotLk due to Dalaran but it still doesnt appeal to me, I dont like the villains (Hagatha, Toggwaggle are just meh..), but we will see, maybe they will bring up some iconic characters :/
EDIT: and regarding cards with powerlevel: meh. nothing special so far.
Would definitely disagree that no revealed card feels weak. The warrior scheme is a candidate for worst card ever released. And there are definitely others that won't see play in any meaningful way.
That said, the last few days of reveals contain interesting cards so I am cautiously hopefully for the set.
Yes, you’re the only one.
Interested to see the Priest card
with Tyrande art that isn't a legendary. Will be epic and epic I reckonI'd say just about every expansion had this sort of promise from the reveal season before launch. Maybe not all to the same degree, but I have never seen an expansion were the general consensus was that the set is "weak" before launch, except maybe for TGT.
Every set introduces new mechanics and shows cards with unique effects that look good in theory. What comes out of it afterwards depends on many different factors, such as whether new mechanics mix well with old cards, whether the advantage gained through a new mechanic can compete with that of old mechanics, what direction the meta takes and what strategies can succeed in it. All these things, and of course the tendency to underrate and overrate and make wild predictions about how things turn out, frequently lead to huge discrepancies between the initial and the final assessments of cards and sets.
Also, it should be kept in mind that the reveal season focuses mostly on legendary and epic cards, and more on class cards than neutrals. More than half the cards of a set are commons and rares, and over 30 of them are neutral. They tend to be revealed last, and they tend to be very underwhelming, and are often considered "pack fillers" or "arena cards". In other words, it is normal to get hyped during the reveal season because the flashy, unique and interesting cards are higlighted instead of the bulk of boring cards. Yet those still significantly impact a set's overall quality, because most classes can't make use of new mechanics without support from neutral cards.
Anyway, RoS doesn't look much better to me than other sets beforehand. And I strongly doubt it will be as impactful as KnC with almost 70 (read: HALF the set) cards that ended up in meta decks. NO other set even came close to this beforehand, not even temporarily.
I'm not saying RoS will be weak, but from what I've seen so far, I don't expect it to be as strong as KnC. With the reevaluation of Boomsday and Rumble and Witchwood, the changes are hard to predict, and I simply hesitate to say that everything will revolve around Shadows now.
Well it's healthy if that much cards are not used .KnC was powercreep as well as KoFT, and they ruined the game.
Good, that isn't what we want either. A healthy balance of underused cards already in existence and some of the cool mechanics from this set mixed in
I do not know if you mean it will be epic (as a rarity) or that it will be spectacular haha, but Priest has already been given his 2 epic cards.
I still hope it is for Priest (it's my favourite class), although I doubt it very much, it looks like a druid or neutral card. Someone said there was a card for Priest for which people were going to hallucinate how strong it was, I hope it is that card.