By now we know how to play OTK Shirvallah Pally. Draw a LOT of cards and complete your deck, then Holy Wrath for 25 (2 Times) with a shuffled-in Tiger. Adding Hakkar to the mix for a second win-condition can´t hurt, especially with Uther rotating out.
However, the Shadows expansion brings quite a few new toys to play with!
In the early-game, you are looking for your tutor effects: Crystology and Call to Adventure. Having the tools in Hand to survive the early turns, you will have an easier time finding answers and board clears in the mid-game and heals with Flash of Light.
Late game is where it gets interesting: By now your deck should, due to small minions being tutored out, contain mainly bigger minions, that are excellent to draw with Jepetto Joybuzz, making that card shine in this decklist!
Once your deck is completed, you can go for Shirvallah, the Tiger OTK by shuffeling her back into your deck with Baleful Banker and then smashing Holy Wrath.
Barista Lynchen is obviously great if you can follow up any of your big battlecry minions that survived the turn (Nozari? Archivist Elysiana?), but even getting another copy of Novice Engineer is already good and playable on curve.
If the meta turns out to be more Aggro based (as it often is), check out this other decklist I have compiled that cuts some of the experimental cards to deliver a more tried and true Surviverdin: http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1244854-shadows-mad-heals-pally
All in all the Shadows expansion brings with it quite a few interesting cards to add to this archetype of a deck, and I can´t wait to try them out!
EDIT: Due to feedback concerned about viability, below a more conservative variance of Shirvallah OTK Pally, removing some of the fun but bringing survivability. I, however, will experiment with Jepetto Joybuzz and Archivist Elysiana (if they pop from a pack) to get a sense of how they´ll function in a kind of big, multi-win-con-pally. All this is subject to change based on the remaining cards that are jet be released this expansion. Cheers!
If the meta turns out to be more Aggro based (as it often is), check out this other decklist I have compiled that cuts some of the experimental cards to deliver a more tried and true Surviverdin:
I like Prince Liam a lot better than Archivist Elysiana because you can actually play him before you run out of cards. With OTK Shirvallah in your deck, playing Archivist Elysiana just makes it awkward and often a dead card in hand.
I've been playing otk paladin a lot the last couple of weeks and it's so rare to beat the opponent with your second win condition (uther) that I think the deck will be fine come next week with very little changes. I certainly don't think the deck will require Hakkar.
If you're trying a serious build I would absolutely skip those flashy legendaries, and especially Archivist Elysiana and Hakkar, the Soulflayer. I don't see them doing anything except interrupt your deck. Aren't you trying to shuffle your tiger into the deck and draw it consitentley? - Decied on one gameplan and work your way from there.
*- AWESOME SHIRVALLA OTK PALLY EPICNESS needs to survive the earlygame.
Just a reminder that unlike the previous sets, the new expansion has at least 2 combo disruption cards (1 for minions and 1 for spells), so OTK decks focused around very specific combo pieces will be less consistent
I am looking at cards like Jepetto Joybuzz and Archivist Elysiana and am wondering about how to put them to good use in my favorite archetype of a deck.
But believe me, I am well aware of the fact that they might prove to be too slow and that I will end up cutting them from the deck for better survivability...
Yeah, the combo tech cards will be played with heavily until people abandon the OTK decks. Someone forcing you to play Holy Wrath auto loses you the game.
Someone forcing out the Tiger or Banker also means you lose.
It appears you fixed your aggro and early game with Wild Pyro. That is necessary against mid range decks as well.
I do like the inclusion of the the double spell legendary. Casting Conc twice or healing twice is very good, because 1 of them was for free.
Late game is where it gets interesting: By now your deck should, due to small minions being tutored out, contain mainly bigger minions, that are excellent to draw with Jepetto Joybuzz, making that card shine in this decklist!
Once your deck is completed, you can go for Shirvallah, the Tiger OTK by shuffeling her back into your deck with Baleful Banker and then smashing Holy Wrath.
You can then play Hakkar, the Soulflayer (maybe as a 1 mana 1/1 thanks to Jepetto) and then bust those Corrupted Bloods with Archivist Elysiana.
If your heals are not enough at any point in the late game, drop down Nozari (very slow tho).
I'm not sure you realize how many cards that is, how do you hold on shirvallah, 2 holy wrath, 2 Baleful bankers, Jepetto, Nozari, Hakkar, and Elysiana without dying ?
OTK pally hardly makes it with just shirvallah holy wrath and bankers, because that's 5 cards to hold already. You can't just add two 10 mana cards and two 8 mana cards to this "combo" it won't ever work imo, no deck can handle 9 dead cards at the same time.
Yeah, the combo tech cards will be played with heavily until people abandon the OTK decks. Someone forcing you to play Holy Wrath auto loses you the game.
Someone forcing out the Tiger or Banker also means you lose.
It appears you fixed your aggro and early game with Wild Pyro. That is necessary against mid range decks as well.
I do like the inclusion of the the double spell legendary. Casting Conc twice or healing twice is very good, because 1 of them was for free.
Absolutely true, though if nobody plays Combo decks anymore due to combo interruption cards like Unseen Saboteur and Hecklebot, people will start playing aggro or midrange. Combo interrupters are bad against those decks, so they will stop being run again eventually.
Hasn´t Hearthstone not always been a game of Rock/Paper/Scissors? :D
EDIT: Due to feedback concerned about viability, below a more conservative variance of Shirvallah OTK Pally, removing some of the fun but bringing survivability. I, however, will experiment with Jepetto Joybuzz and Archivist Elysiana (if they pop from a pack) to get a sense of how they´ll function in a kind of big, multi-win-con-pally. All this is subject to change based on the remaining cards that are jet be released this expansion. Cheers!
THIS is gonna be amazing!
By now we know how to play OTK Shirvallah Pally. Draw a LOT of cards and complete your deck, then Holy Wrath for 25 (2 Times) with a shuffled-in Tiger. Adding Hakkar to the mix for a second win-condition can´t hurt, especially with Uther rotating out.
However, the Shadows expansion brings quite a few new toys to play with!
In the early-game, you are looking for your tutor effects: Crystology and Call to Adventure. Having the tools in Hand to survive the early turns, you will have an easier time finding answers and board clears in the mid-game and heals with Flash of Light.
Late game is where it gets interesting: By now your deck should, due to small minions being tutored out, contain mainly bigger minions, that are excellent to draw with Jepetto Joybuzz, making that card shine in this decklist!
Once your deck is completed, you can go for Shirvallah, the Tiger OTK by shuffeling her back into your deck with Baleful Banker and then smashing Holy Wrath.
You can then play Hakkar, the Soulflayer (maybe as a 1 mana 1/1 thanks to Jepetto) and then bust those Corrupted Bloods with Archivist Elysiana.
If your heals are not enough at any point in the late game, drop down Nozari (very slow tho).
TECH CHOICES:
I like Archmage Vargoth in this Pally list, play him together with Consecration, Crystology, Call to Adventure for an additional cast. Or even Shrink Ray, clear some deathrattle minions that summon more minions and then he´ll Shrink Ray again for you at the end of turn :)
Barista Lynchen is obviously great if you can follow up any of your big battlecry minions that survived the turn (Nozari? Archivist Elysiana?), but even getting another copy of Novice Engineer is already good and playable on curve.
If the meta turns out to be more Aggro based (as it often is), check out this other decklist I have compiled that cuts some of the experimental cards to deliver a more tried and true Surviverdin: http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1244854-shadows-mad-heals-pally
All in all the Shadows expansion brings with it quite a few interesting cards to add to this archetype of a deck, and I can´t wait to try them out!
Cheers, happy theorycrafting to everyone,
Dave
EDIT: Due to feedback concerned about viability, below a more conservative variance of Shirvallah OTK Pally, removing some of the fun but bringing survivability. I, however, will experiment with Jepetto Joybuzz and Archivist Elysiana (if they pop from a pack) to get a sense of how they´ll function in a kind of big, multi-win-con-pally. All this is subject to change based on the remaining cards that are jet be released this expansion. Cheers!
EDIT: Aaaaand here´s a pure Hakkar Control Pally :) Now all the cards are out I think this one can make it.
EDIT: Also, Mech package plus Shirvallah, I like this one.
I think it's too greedy, better to choose just one win condition. Probably lacking early defensive stuff too.
Tier 4 deck in my opinion. You should include Wild pyromancer, and your lacking defensive early game stuff
If the meta turns out to be more Aggro based (as it often is), check out this other decklist I have compiled that cuts some of the experimental cards to deliver a more tried and true Surviverdin:
I usually theorycraft a very greedy version of a deck, to see what´s possible in a slow meta and then a second very conservative version (see my MAD HEALS OTK PALLY:https://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1244854-mad-heals-otk-pally-by-gunkladle), where you can find pyro and such.
When the cards release I start of the conservative version and slowly work my way towards a greedier list if the meta allows it :)
I like Prince Liam a lot better than Archivist Elysiana because you can actually play him before you run out of cards. With OTK Shirvallah in your deck, playing Archivist Elysiana just makes it awkward and often a dead card in hand.
I've been playing otk paladin a lot the last couple of weeks and it's so rare to beat the opponent with your second win condition (uther) that I think the deck will be fine come next week with very little changes. I certainly don't think the deck will require Hakkar.
If you're trying a serious build I would absolutely skip those flashy legendaries, and especially Archivist Elysiana and Hakkar, the Soulflayer. I don't see them doing anything except interrupt your deck. Aren't you trying to shuffle your tiger into the deck and draw it consitentley? - Decied on one gameplan and work your way from there.
*- AWESOME SHIRVALLA OTK PALLY EPICNESS needs to survive the earlygame.
Where is my boi Doomsayer ?
pyro+blessing is nice vs agro
Just a reminder that unlike the previous sets, the new expansion has at least 2 combo disruption cards (1 for minions and 1 for spells), so OTK decks focused around very specific combo pieces will be less consistent
It did not blow my mind.
Have fun and good success with the deck.
Yours truly, but mine only.
I am looking at cards like Jepetto Joybuzz and Archivist Elysiana and am wondering about how to put them to good use in my favorite archetype of a deck.
But believe me, I am well aware of the fact that they might prove to be too slow and that I will end up cutting them from the deck for better survivability...
You are probably looking for something like this:
Yeah, the combo tech cards will be played with heavily until people abandon the OTK decks. Someone forcing you to play Holy Wrath auto loses you the game.
Someone forcing out the Tiger or Banker also means you lose.
It appears you fixed your aggro and early game with Wild Pyro. That is necessary against mid range decks as well.
I do like the inclusion of the the double spell legendary. Casting Conc twice or healing twice is very good, because 1 of them was for free.
I'm not sure you realize how many cards that is, how do you hold on shirvallah, 2 holy wrath, 2 Baleful bankers, Jepetto, Nozari, Hakkar, and Elysiana without dying ?
OTK pally hardly makes it with just shirvallah holy wrath and bankers, because that's 5 cards to hold already. You can't just add two 10 mana cards and two 8 mana cards to this "combo" it won't ever work imo, no deck can handle 9 dead cards at the same time.
10 legendaries lol Blizzard loves this
Absolutely true, though if nobody plays Combo decks anymore due to combo interruption cards like Unseen Saboteur and Hecklebot, people will start playing aggro or midrange. Combo interrupters are bad against those decks, so they will stop being run again eventually.
Hasn´t Hearthstone not always been a game of Rock/Paper/Scissors? :D
EDIT: Due to feedback concerned about viability, below a more conservative variance of Shirvallah OTK Pally, removing some of the fun but bringing survivability. I, however, will experiment with Jepetto Joybuzz and Archivist Elysiana (if they pop from a pack) to get a sense of how they´ll function in a kind of big, multi-win-con-pally. All this is subject to change based on the remaining cards that are jet be released this expansion. Cheers!
Aaaaand here´s a pure Hakkar Control Pally :) Now all the cards are out I think this one can make it.
And for good mesure, here´s a mech and hakkar deck, this one´s nice :)
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