I think the only thing keeping me from dusting my wild set is because of adventures I haven't completed on heroic and for the random tavern brawls that you have to make a set for. The more I think about it, I hate the build your own deck tavern brawls, so getting 1 win shouldn't be an issue ever. I think I'll have to comb through and at least DE the stuff I guarantee I won't use.
I want to play mage wheter its in standard or wild and I needFrost Lich Jaina , Baron Geddon [/card],[card] Dragon's Fury , Vodoo Doll [/card], [card]Pyros etc. Is these legendaries safe to craft? Or will I have fun playing with these on standard and wild? Because I was a reno mage main back in time. I had the most fun in hs at that time. And I want to bring it back. Thanks!
Btw I have 2.6k dust. So i will be only able to craft 1 leg.
Hey, so I have some spared dust in my collection (2730) and I was wondering how competitive Kingsbane Rogue is in Wild. Normally I'm a Standard player, as I have always preferred the fresh experience of rotating sets in that format over the heavy odor of powerful interactions, which wild is flooded with. But since WW didn't brought that much excitement as I thought it would, I'm in the mood for some wild stuff. Dunno why, but no other competitive (wild) deck feels that interesting to me in comparisson to the aforementioned one. As you probably guessed, I came here to ask about your opinion just because I lack some of the key cards. Those would be:
You will need Kingsbane for sure. But for this deck i only run 1 Doomerang [/card]and [card]Preparation which works very nice! The MVP of this deck is obviously the Gang Up with Coldlight Oracle. You easily mill your opponent with it! Of course with the help of Valeera the Hollow. Its a must craft if you are really looking for this deck. For Kingsbane, i have a lot of buff options so no worries to that too!
So my winrate with this is quite nice. Unfortunately i do not track it so i would guess its about %60 for 15 games. You can destroy every single control deck but struggle with aggro decks. So have fun! You can add me on Battlenet id if you want to watch!
Hey, so I have some spared dust in my collection (2730) and I was wondering how competitive Kingsbane Rogue is in Wild. Normally I'm a Standard player, as I have always preferred the fresh experience of rotating sets in that format over the heavy odor of powerful interactions, which wild is flooded with. But since WW didn't brought that much excitement as I thought it would, I'm in the mood for some wild stuff. Dunno why, but no other competitive (wild) deck feels that interesting to me in comparisson to the aforementioned one. As you probably guessed, I came here to ask about your opinion just because I lack some of the key cards. Those would be:
My collection isn't updated yet, but I can do that in a sec.
Anyway thx for your time. <3
I just checked the numbers, and unfortunately Kingsbane rogue is not doing well at higher ranks in Wild, and is demoted to tier 3 in Wild section of the tier list.
All Standard decks have wild equivalents (maybe except Even paladin) and then there is Kun/Aviana OTK druid, Jade druid, Giantlock, Renolock, Secret mage, Aggro/burn mage, Quest mage, Reno mage, big priest, funky homebrews (Mech paladin, Egg hunter...) Are you sure nothing appeals to you?
Is it too soon to craft Baku and Genn just to have a versatile collection? I'm also thinking of crafting a pair of Voidlords + Guldan DK. My plan is to have a good collection so I can play different decks without having to stick to one or two top-tier ones.
baku (at least till next expansion, several good decks, like currently odd rogue or odd paladin ( or odd warior)), voidlord and guldan yes (those two were top choices since they came out). genn maybe only till next expansion, only even paladin viable, dont recommend him since other paladin decks such as murlocs are available.
I want to play mage wheter its in standard or wild and I needFrost Lich Jaina , Baron Geddon [/card],[card] Dragon's Fury , Vodoo Doll [/card], [card]Pyros etc. Is these legendaries safe to craft? Or will I have fun playing with these on standard and wild? Because I was a reno mage main back in time. I had the most fun in hs at that time. And I want to bring it back. Thanks!
Btw I have 2.6k dust. So i will be only able to craft 1 leg.
I would not start crafting control mage with such a low amount of dust. jaina is necessary and will stay necessary, baron gheddon is a very good tech (with jaina it heals you from the aoe damage). control mage can reach high legend if played well, but is not really a tier 1 deck.
you will need dragons fury as well.
and the comparison with reno is probably not that good since the decks are different.
I would only craft a complete deck if I was you and not just parts of it.
Ok thank you. Will craft Baku for now and wait on the rest. I know what you mean about Hadronox though, has always been on the edge of craftable for me.
I dont recommend hadronox. but if you ever want to play paladin this year, which is currently a very strong class you will need call of arms.
if you got the cards necessary I recommend murloc paladin.
@ prococuk I'm a Dane fan and thus I have almost all of the sweet rogue cards one could imagine. The DK is sitting in my collection since KoFT. I saw your deck and I like it. I also know, that this is just Mill Rogue with a secondary win-condition. So I'm familiar with the Oracle + gang up strategies.
@ Slyde - Dude, just look at my collection (the neutrals part isn't quite updated yet) and you can see which cards/decks I find appealing. I'm also lacking many cards so I have to be a bit more picky with my decisions.
I'm very grateful to you, because you always take your time in checking the meta stats in order to give a more objective analysis for us. I expected you to warn me about the viability of Kingsbane rogue and the power of other more popular decks. And as much as it may surprise you, the answer is no - I don't find them exciting. You said it yourself - all of them are just a better equivalent of already existing decks and tbh I'm kinda fed up executing the same strategy over and over again. I want to try out something more unusual, but not that cheesy (Naga combos, Big Priest). I am not a fan of OTK decks as well. As for aggro - I will get bored of it sooner or later.
Currently my wild decks are Dane's Factory Rogue, Steal Priest, Howlfiend Warlock, Renounce (all casual up until now), N'zoth Hunter, Priest, Reno Mage (it's a nice one, but it's too slow and it can't compete with more insane strategies -> Naga interactions), N'Zoth Control Warlock or Renolock w/o Krul.
Ok thank you. Will craft Baku for now and wait on the rest. I know what you mean about Hadronox though, has always been on the edge of craftable for me.
I dont recommend hadronox. but if you ever want to play paladin this year, which is currently a very strong class you will need call of arms.
if you got the cards necessary I recommend murloc paladin.
Shame on the Hadonox, that deck did look rather fun. I should say, I have no real interest in ranks and meta stuff. A second call to arms I should get for sure and I do have all the murlocs. I am loving Quest pally at the moment and it is probably a refreshing change for my opponents, I still win but It is more midrange than aggro pally
I would say neither, as both of them are really slow in this meta (they would be extremely bad versus Cubelock, Spiteful decks, Quest Rogue and aggro paladins). Priest lost most of their dragon synergies and board control tools so a Ysera is a needless value generator. As for The Lich King - I'd say he is a bit better but I would prefer Leeroy Jenkins or other more proactive cards over him. Currently he's being used in taunt dudu.
I don't even know if people put 8+ cards like Tirion in Even Pala not to mention the LK. I mostly see aggressive lists. Spiteful Dudu, like I said, doesn't profit from the LK either.
Lich King is seeing a lot more play than Ysera at the moment, but Ysera is a 'safer' craft for Standard players due to being classic. I would go with the Lich King personally.
Whats a better craft? Warrior quest or legendary hunter weapon? Have been wanting to play with both archetypes for a while but only have enough dust for one
Whats a better craft? Warrior quest or legendary hunter weapon? Have been wanting to play with both archetypes for a while but only have enough dust for one
I would say Fire Plume's Heart is the safer craft, as quest warrior, both normal and odd, has established itself as a viable archetype. Spell hunter is doing decently as well, but noone knows how viable it is after Barnes rotated. You can also try that deck without the weapon...
Have you considered updating the list, because imho some of the older legendaries have lost popularity post patch. I'm kinda tired to name anything, but I think many cards fall in this category (tomorrow I will try to give proper examples and to back up my words with data). E.g.
-Alexstrasza - that she is strong and beloved by control decks, I won't disagree about that. But currently I only see her in control mage, which is considered to be a tier 3 deck (see this list here).
Have you considered updating the list, because imho some of the older legendaries have lost popularity post patch. I'm kinda tired to name anything, but I think many cards fall in this category (tomorrow I will try to give proper examples and to back up my words with data). E.g.
-Alexstrasza - that she is strong and beloved by control decks, I won't disagree about that. But currently I only see her in control mage, which is considered to be a tier 3 deck (see this list here).
Thanks! I think Alexstrasza will stay in tier 2 forever, as she has such a powerful effect that will go in and out of the meta. I will update the card text for Hadronox.
If you click at the "Changelog" spoilers in the OP, you will see that I have several of updates to new and old cards in both formats. Note that text updates are not listed (a pain to clean up, any feedback appreciated!) only tier movements.
Control (very good wild player) made a video about dusting the rotated cards.
https://youtu.be/bo7iq94WAdI
I think the only thing keeping me from dusting my wild set is because of adventures I haven't completed on heroic and for the random tavern brawls that you have to make a set for. The more I think about it, I hate the build your own deck tavern brawls, so getting 1 win shouldn't be an issue ever. I think I'll have to comb through and at least DE the stuff I guarantee I won't use.
Greetings!
I want to play mage wheter its in standard or wild and I needFrost Lich Jaina , Baron Geddon [/card],[card] Dragon's Fury , Vodoo Doll [/card], [card]Pyros etc. Is these legendaries safe to craft? Or will I have fun playing with these on standard and wild? Because I was a reno mage main back in time. I had the most fun in hs at that time. And I want to bring it back. Thanks!
Btw I have 2.6k dust. So i will be only able to craft 1 leg.
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Hey, so I have some spared dust in my collection (2730) and I was wondering how competitive Kingsbane Rogue is in Wild. Normally I'm a Standard player, as I have always preferred the fresh experience of rotating sets in that format over the heavy odor of powerful interactions, which wild is flooded with. But since WW didn't brought that much excitement as I thought it would, I'm in the mood for some wild stuff. Dunno why, but no other competitive (wild) deck feels that interesting to me in comparisson to the aforementioned one. As you probably guessed, I came here to ask about your opinion just because I lack some of the key cards. Those would be:
- Kingsbane itself;
- Preparation x2
- Doomerang x2
My collection isn't updated yet, but I can do that in a sec.
Anyway thx for your time. <3
Greetings!
I do have an wild mill kingsbane rogue as you wanted. Firstly here is the deck itself:
You will need Kingsbane for sure. But for this deck i only run 1 Doomerang [/card]and [card]Preparation which works very nice! The MVP of this deck is obviously the Gang Up with Coldlight Oracle. You easily mill your opponent with it! Of course with the help of Valeera the Hollow. Its a must craft if you are really looking for this deck. For Kingsbane, i have a lot of buff options so no worries to that too!
So my winrate with this is quite nice. Unfortunately i do not track it so i would guess its about %60 for 15 games. You can destroy every single control deck but struggle with aggro decks. So have fun! You can add me on Battlenet id if you want to watch!
YOGG-SARON IS NOWHERE
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Thank you so much for responding to my comment.
@ prococuk I'm a Dane fan and thus I have almost all of the sweet rogue cards one could imagine. The DK is sitting in my collection since KoFT. I saw your deck and I like it. I also know, that this is just Mill Rogue with a secondary win-condition. So I'm familiar with the Oracle + gang up strategies.
@ Slyde - Dude, just look at my collection (the neutrals part isn't quite updated yet) and you can see which cards/decks I find appealing. I'm also lacking many cards so I have to be a bit more picky with my decisions.
I'm very grateful to you, because you always take your time in checking the meta stats in order to give a more objective analysis for us. I expected you to warn me about the viability of Kingsbane rogue and the power of other more popular decks. And as much as it may surprise you, the answer is no - I don't find them exciting. You said it yourself - all of them are just a better equivalent of already existing decks and tbh I'm kinda fed up executing the same strategy over and over again. I want to try out something more unusual, but not that cheesy (Naga combos, Big Priest). I am not a fan of OTK decks as well. As for aggro - I will get bored of it sooner or later.
Currently my wild decks are Dane's Factory Rogue, Steal Priest, Howlfiend Warlock, Renounce (all casual up until now), N'zoth Hunter, Priest, Reno Mage (it's a nice one, but it's too slow and it can't compete with more insane strategies -> Naga interactions), N'Zoth Control Warlock or Renolock w/o Krul.
Greetings!
In this meta which one of those is better?
Ysera - Lichking
I have even pal, spiteful druid etc. Thanks!
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I would say neither, as both of them are really slow in this meta (they would be extremely bad versus Cubelock, Spiteful decks, Quest Rogue and aggro paladins). Priest lost most of their dragon synergies and board control tools so a Ysera is a needless value generator. As for The Lich King - I'd say he is a bit better but I would prefer Leeroy Jenkins or other more proactive cards over him. Currently he's being used in taunt dudu.
I don't even know if people put 8+ cards like Tirion in Even Pala not to mention the LK. I mostly see aggressive lists. Spiteful Dudu, like I said, doesn't profit from the LK either.
Hemet, Jungle Hunter,
Twig of the World Tree,
Inkmaster Solia
and
Knuckles
was disenchanted to craft
Spiritsinger Umbra
and I feel fine about it.
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Lich King is seeing a lot more play than Ysera at the moment, but Ysera is a 'safer' craft for Standard players due to being classic. I would go with the Lich King personally.
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Whats a better craft? Warrior quest or legendary hunter weapon? Have been wanting to play with both archetypes for a while but only have enough dust for one
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SlydE,
Have you considered updating the list, because imho some of the older legendaries have lost popularity post patch. I'm kinda tired to name anything, but I think many cards fall in this category (tomorrow I will try to give proper examples and to back up my words with data). E.g.
-Alexstrasza - that she is strong and beloved by control decks, I won't disagree about that. But currently I only see her in control mage, which is considered to be a tier 3 deck (see this list here).
inb4 how is "Hadronox - Playable in Spiteful Summoner"? I have only seen him in Taunt dudu.
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