[Updated] OP Beast Druid
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- 17 Minions
- 13 Spells
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Beast Druid
- Crafting Cost: 4220
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 8/6/2016 (Old Gods)
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Hello my friends ! This is my theorycraft about Beast Druid in this expansion.
EDIT : I wanted to thank you all because you help alot in getting this deck more refined, and I'm pretty sure we will enjoy this deck once it comes out ! :)
I / Who Am I ?
II / Notable Inclusions
III / Might Consider
IV / Gameplan
V / Mulligan Guide
VI / Budget Replacements
VII / Change History
Who Am I ?
None of your business.
I'm a Legend EU player, but I'm far from being a great player tho. I love theorycrafting, Hunter, Druid, and combo decks. This expansion brought some preeeetty cool stuff on the table, and I think Druid received the most broken card of this expansion in Menagerie Warden.
By the way, sorry for my english as I'm not a native speaker (french here !), I'd be glad if you help me correct my mistakes tho :).
Druid received 3 excellent cards in ONiK, all of them being excellent addition to the Beast archetype.
If you disagree with some choices, lets talk about it in comments.
Have fun :)
Notable inclusions :
Enchanted Raven : 2/2 on turn 1 is solid. The Beast tribe makes an excellent combo with Mark of Y'Shaarj on turn 2 resulting in a 4/4 turn 2.
Stranglethorn Tiger : Solid pick by itself. Pushed as a core card by Menagerie Warden, which I'll explain later on.
Menagerie Warden : What a card ! Allow combos with various beasts in this deck, such as Stranglethorn Tiger for 2 5/5 stealth on turn 6, followed by a huge burst (Savage Roar, Power of the Wild etc.) For instance, double Tiger + Savage Roar = 16 dmg (7+7+2), with Tiger being really hard to remove.
Azure Drake : An excellent 5 drop. Drakes are solving the draw problem. You now have 6 possible draws in the deck which is totally fine.
Might consider :
Violet Teacher : With 15 spells, a low curve and alot of small buffs, Violet Teacher is a strong card. If you don't draw into your combo pieces, you can still play the token game and win on a Savage Roar Combo.
Brann Bronzebeard : This card could be a flex spot as it seems too greedy even to me, but you may pull off the Brann + Menagerie Warden combo sometimes. Spectacular. There are only 2 targets though, Zoobot and Menagerie. Fun but inconsistent here. And this kind of aggroish midrange decks are meant to be consistent.
Soul of the Forest : with a very fast curve, you may vomit your hand and have no comeback options for board clears. Soul of the Forest could be it, and is likely to hit 2-3 average targets, which is nice against Brawl, Swipe or Flamestrike. Our 4 drops are quite important tho, and I'm not sure about cutting one of em. Feel free to include this as a 1 off if there are many board clears in the metagame.
Raven Idol : The deck needs some more card draw in my opinion, and Raven could be an interesting option when you are looking for a Savage Roar lethal or a removal. Cutting your early drops could hurt the consistency of the deck though.
Dire Wolf Alpha : With 4 one drops (Roots and Raven), the Dire Wolf is more consistent than before. Makes your Raven to trade with Tunnel Trogg for example. But for now, Druid of the Saber may just be better.
Moonglade Portal : This card is the heal Druid needed to stabilize against aggressive decks, as it can either heal face or a damaged Druid of the Claw. The 6 slot is proven to be one of the best stat-wise, with an average 5/5, and some top tier in Cairne or Sylvannas. Solid. However, with our aggressive gameplan, we want to have board control, it may come too late. Think about it as a 1-of if you want an heavier curve.
Zoobot : 3/3 3 mana, gives +1/1 reminds me of old Shattered Sun Cleric, which was definitely a card. Given how many turn 1 and 2 beast you have, you may curve this out well. Helps you trade the board (against Totem Golem for example) and from there, you should stay on board all game. 3/3 is a solid statline which definitely needs an answer aswell so you will often 2 for 1 with this card.
Gameplan :
Your usual game plan is to abuse Beast synergy early game with Mark of Y'Shaarj and Zoobot to gain some momentum and be ahead on board. You want to damage your enemy face asap, making efficient trades, in order to pull a double Stranglethorn Tiger thanks to Menagerie Warden for a minimal 16 damage with 1 Savage Roar on turn 7. Twisting Nether comes too late on turn 8 to stop this, so the Tigers are likely to stay on turn 7, although Paladin could Equality+Consecration.
Mulligan Guide :
Always keep :
Living Roots / Innervate / Wrath / Druid of the Saber / Enchanted Raven
If you already have Innervate, also keep :
Fandral Staghelm / Savage Combatant / Druid of the Claw
If you already have a Beast, keep Mark of Y'Shaarj, and if you curve out smoothly, you could also keep a 3 drop.
Budget Replacement :
- Don't have Fandral Staghelm ? Another Savage Combatant or a Violet Teacher are fine !
History :
08/08 : removed Huge Toad & Dire Wolf Alpha for 2xDruid of the Saber
08/09 : removed Zoobot, Moonglade Portal, and Savage Combatant for 2x Violet Teacher and a second Druid of the Flame
08/12 : removed 1 Savage Roar for a Raven Idol.
EDIT 26/08 1AM :After some playtesting, some changes may occur !
Currently tried 3 versions over 1 hour, at Legend rank, and I will playtest some more hours before I make the changes.
But overall, here are my first observations :
- As we (all) thought, Menagerie Warden is busted AF and I was able to pull it with a good beast every game, except those won before turn 6.
- More often than not, you WILL gain board control.
- Swipe and Wrath are enough removal, letting you deal dmg face with your minions.
- Violet Teacher SEEMS too slow after playtesting. I will test some more hours tho.
- Druid of the Flame seems clunky in the 3 spot, you will usually have alot of options on this turn, so I removed them (for now) and playing with 2 Azure Drakes instead. While it is a good anti-aggro tech, you have the most savage early in the meta so it isn't a problem.
- I finally added a second Druid of the Claw, smoothing the curve.
- Removed Raven Idol for a 2nd Savage Roar. The reason is, your board is actually very often so big that there are many situations you wished you had this SR for lethal, and you do not. Just a consistency. Also, it makes more sense since I will probably remove Violet Teacher.
Lets talk about it in comments, so that we make the good changes to this deck. :)
EDIT 08/27 : Removed 1 Savage Roar, added 1 The Curator
Great list! I hope Druid of the Flame can be playable, every time I've tried to use him he just sucks unless Fandral is out. Innervated out on turn 1 feels pretty good though.
Anyway, I like your idea of using Violet Teacher as the token strategy. I would probably go with Tomb Spider instead, but Teacher has some insane potential, especially for a more aggressive strategy like yours. I have a more midrange idea in mind, but the more I look at it, the more the aggro strategy seems to be more effective. We shall see!
Druid of the Flame is female.
I think this deck would be better with 2 raven idols and lose a savage roar and druid of the flame. Druid of the flame was not even a 2 of in old Beast Druid lists so I do not understand how it could make the cut now when you add 4 new cards to the deck. Also 2 savage roar will often be dead cards and will usually be better to find lethal through the idols than hoping to topdeck a savage raor at the perfect time
Agreed with 2x savage roar but I think you're nuts cutting a druid of the flame. I think it's one of the better cards in beast druid. Super versatile on it's own and really great value with fandral...
your version is too slow i guess any ZOO and Ctun with 7 turn taunt can stop ur plan.... i do same Beast deck but with more agresive and sinergy watch it
Sir Finley Mrrgglton could be cool if you decide to go the Zoobot route. I suppose the deck doesn't need any more good one-drops though.
Don't do it! The list is nice and tight as it is -- you don't gain anything by muddying it up with a bunch of dragons and murlocs, but you lose a TON of consistency.
Hey, nice deck sir!
I created a midranged version of Beast Druid after being inspired by your list.
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/605410-new-beast-druid-onik
What are your thoughts?
If this deck becomes top tier i'll definitely craft Fandral Staghelm otherwise maybe Alex for Freeze mage
5/5
Looks like a solid deck, but the only draw I see is Mark of Y'Shaarj. Maybe drop a Savage Roar for a Nourish?
Its a midrange druid, Nourish is a very slow and expensive for that archetype. The idea is to finish quickly in turn 7-8-9, Nourish is not useful for this.
Ah it's currently the afternoon here.
The problem might be that you're focusing too much on the token aspect of the druid. You might not want to do so many spell combos with Violet Teacher since you no longer have the room for Soul of the Forest, and similar cards. But hey, we shall see in a few weeks and then we can tweak.
Well written guide, liked it a lot. About the lack of draws, have you considered The Curator?
not sure how much I like Fandral in this deck...i'd rather put in another druid of the claw, or a moonglade portal because them lolz
Turn one enchanted raven then turn 2 mark of yshaari is fuckin good value .. but turn 5 tiger then turn 6 menagerie warden is oppp ... druid beast will be a tier 1 deck without doubt. Btw i feel like fendral doesnt fit so much in this deck , also 2x of violet teacher is too much and maybe 2x savage roar is too much too hahahah ... i know its just theorycrafting and i know you ll find the best list .. btw i like this list becouse its '' more midrange'' than the other aggro beast druid theorycrafting (and remind me to the old midrange/combo druid )
I like this deck because it has cards I already own and don't need to craft!
+1 for that
I'll be trying it out as well as soon as the cards come in.
So my only worry is, if it goes to late game, what is the plan then? How do snatch a victory?
Good job. Finally i will have a druid deck :)
Yeah thanks for bringing lazy people another cancer bullshit.