I'm not even sure if this is allowed... It's originally from the Destiny Reddit 3.5 months ago, and more recently became a top post in the Hearthstone Reddit... It's hilarious how you can change a few nouns and it becomes Hearthstone... I'm sure lots of you have read it (heh), but I'm sure just as many haven't.
ORIGINALLY BY: Pwadigy On Reddit (Jan/20)
I have played dozens of competitive games over dozens of genres (not just video-games) and I have learned many things about people who play competitive games
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Welcome, I guess. And Hearthstone too (100 days laters)
I have played PvP in all the Halos (barring CE, MP wasn't a thing yet), Diablos, Runescape, MTG, YuGiOH, Pokemon TCG, Shoddy Battle, Guild wars 2, WoW, Overwatch, CS, Quake, Smash, even MMORTSs (Most of which are shut down), and yes, thousands of hours of Destiny.
I've learned the following:
- Everyone always hates the meta
- Everyone thinks that changing the meta will make them satisfied
- Everyone thinks that meta diversity is automatically good and cares more about it than gameplay quality
- Everyone thinks making the game slower will make it more "tactical"
- Everyone thinks the people making the game are stupid.
- Everyone wants more things nerfed than they want buffed, and they want even fewer things reworked than they want buffed
- The game is always stale. Doesn't matter what game. It's stale. Always. Even Bobby Fisher got salty near the end of his life that Chess became all about learning chess theory. Yes, even chess has a meta and there are players who get salty about new niche discoveries.
- Everyone wants 100% of strategies to be useful when 90% of the strategies are gimmicks that don't actually take skill, or otherwise have glaring weaknesses that only skilled players have the talent to notice.
And from these I've learned the following truths:
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People want to be rewarded for being passive and not having to make decisions in real time, and get mad when the enemy team/player is decisive, confident and wins
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People don't want to put the time into learning the meta because they're afraid they wouldn't be able to win a "mirror match." They know deep down in a vacuum they are less skilled, so if the meta is "more diverse" it'll automatically make them better. They are wrong and don't have the self awareness to learn this. They are no more successful in a different meta and are not happier
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People don't know the difference between a skill floor and a skill-gap, and when they hit a skill ceiling for a strategy they revert to complaining about "the meta"
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And fundamentally, the bottom N% of the playerbase always thinks that they'd be in the >N% of the playerbase if only Bungie/Blizzard/JaGex/Konami/Wizards/Nintendo/Valve/whoever nerfs X
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And use the salt thread
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It is strange. Blizzard nerfed Druids ability to ramp by hitting wild growth, innervate and Nourish.
A year or so later Druid has: lightning bloom, breath of the wild and overgrowth.
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I swear people whine about everything
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I agree but this whiny community tends to overestimate the effect of a card and whine about it. They only look at the effect, not the context, the type of deck it goes in to, what meta it requires etc.
I also think that this card will be horrible in an aggressive meta because you don't want to waste 4 mana giving your opponent cards.
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A setup that requires
1) Two specific cards in your opening hand
2) One of them to be drawn as your first or last card
... yeah broken.
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Cheers buddy! Keep up the great spirit :-)
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I think you can arrange collectors in all sorts of categories. Some people just want everything, some wants the OG stuff, some wants all the stuff from a certain point in time etc.
But you are right that it is not possible to satisfy everyone. I just like the thought of Blizzard acknowledging their old school players by giving OG stuff a stamp/frame/whatever, so it is possible to distinguish between obtained and bought card backs.
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I think your version of Altruis is broken. I mean after a good skull of guldan you'd lost instantly as he'll deal 20 damage - and if you don't have board, oh my...
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Millhouse Manastorm and Lorewalker Cho.
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Why create a nerf thread right off the bat? What you are basically writing is: "I am losing to this deck so please nerf it". Have you considered a more analytic approach, your thread could read something like this:
"Hi guys. I am struggleing with bomb warrior. I am playing XXX but can't seem to win. Do you have any tips, decks, cards or whatever that counters this?"
This might give you a discussion about beating bomb warrior instead of the troll answers you are likely to see. These "I just lost to bomb warrior again, I want to nerf the shit out of them and not I will create a thread where people will agree with me, so I can feel slightly better" threads are really tiring.
Better luck next time.
Edit: Damn! I missed the irony of the titel. My point still stands but I suppose it goes for other topics. Guess I have my guard up the moment I read "nerf".