Hearthpwn

There is always a couple of dickheads who want to take the joy out of things: "bUT YoU DiDnT makE it To LegenD When Things WerE Hard". People said the same when Razakus, Pirate warrior, Aggro shaman and so on was a thing. Hell, I am sure you can find people saying that DH has made it easier for people as well. 

I am happy for you. Enjoy some meme decks prior to ladder reset. :-)

Long games tend to rely heavily on RNG and what value you get, and the one who gets the best value from the RNG cards often wins. 

Shorter games, e.g. aggro vs aggro is where the true skill is. Every decision matter and even a single mistake can cost you the game. Control mirrors is more forgiving and a mistake or two does not mean you lost. 

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RNG has really taken over Hearthstone. I've played Hearthstone since it was released from beta and enjoyed it a lot. However, in the recent expansions I've lost my motivation but still kept on playing it because there were some fun decks here and there, and BG was a good addition to give some variety. 

But then I tried to play Legends of Runeterra (LoR), where there are some RNG elements, but not as many and as game-swingy as the ones in Hearthstone. And know I can't play Hearthstone anymore. LoR made me realize how much I hate losing games because someone discovered a Pyroblast of their Mana Cyclone which gave them a discover spell that randomly gave them Pyroblast. Or when you are in a position where you've basically won the match but the enemy got a random puzzlebox which clears your board and gives them a board instead. These situations are just not funny.

It can be fun a times but when it's a factor in the majority of the games it is too much. LoR is not perfect but it is more satisfying than the RNG-fiesta Hearthstone has become. 

 

 No RNG is really bad too. I don't play chess since it's pointless. I never learned as a child, the game is way too hard, and I can't ever win a game because people who have been playing for years have a near 100% chance to beat me. No one wants to play a hard game where they can never win. If you do want to play that game, play control shaman and enjoy your 75% loss rate to aggro DH. No RNG. You will just lose guaranteed. People like to play mage since at least vs aggro DH they stand some sort of chance since they can discover taunt in power of creation or cheat out a turn 6 box and pray for a win and sometimes get there. Their deck isn't favoured but at least they can win sometimes.

I think actually a lack of RNG is a big problem right now with the top tier decks. Even face hunter can draw its boar and get unlucky. Aggro DH is so consistent it's unbelievable. If they had some bad RNG so they could lose sometimes it would be great.

 RNG is always a part of card games because you draw cards. You can beat the world best MTG player if he doesn't draw any mana. And I don't care about counter matchups; it happens in LoR as well. RNG should not be such a high factor that it starts to mess with the skill factor. It is fair that it sometimes tips the scale of the match. But the RNG factor is just too consistent in Hearthstone and games are too often decided by what spell, minion or whatever a lackey gave you. It gives great highlights to Youtube but it's not fun to be on the recieving end of it. 

It's a matter of taste and I found that I really don't like the RNG level of Hearthstone after I tried something else. It's understandable and fair that people like it as it can be really fun too. 

RNG has really taken over Hearthstone. I've played Hearthstone since it was released from beta and enjoyed it a lot. However, in the recent expansions I've lost my motivation but still kept on playing it because there were some fun decks here and there, and BG was a good addition to give some variety. 

But then I tried to play Legends of Runeterra (LoR), where there are some RNG elements, but not as many and as game-swingy as the ones in Hearthstone. And know I can't play Hearthstone anymore. LoR made me realize how much I hate losing games because someone discovered a Pyroblast of their Mana Cyclone which gave them a discover spell that randomly gave them Pyroblast. Or when you are in a position where you've basically won the match but the enemy got a random puzzlebox which clears your board and gives them a board instead. These situations are just not funny.

It can be fun a times but when it's a factor in the majority of the games it is too much. LoR is not perfect but it is more satisfying than the RNG-fiesta Hearthstone has become. 

"I want a deck list that gives at least a 60 % winrate". 

Jesus... You know that you are the one playing the deck, right? 

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Don’t try and mention a potential problematic mechanic here. It doesn’t matter to these people 

Its just full of people who get off on  talking down to you or sending you to the salt thread. I’d really recommend moving on to a new game. Let this community kill itself 

 

 If you want a discussion about a mechanic then post arguments and thougts. Not just: "ThiS MeChaniC is StupiD. Mage Get Lucky All time With Boxes and I DonT like It." There are plenty of topics that show this community is willing to disuss things if you present arguments. 

aaaaand use the salt thread for salt. 

Have a nice day.

I'll admit: I had my guard up when I saw the title, and I even considered to have a salt thread copy-paste ready before reading.

I was wrong. This is spot on. Well fucking said. 

Climbing and pooping is the way to go. 

The man has a point. 

You are making some strange comparisons in your analysis. 

You are comparing cards from different rarities - e.g. epics compared to rares (Bonfire elemental was played in a minion/elemental mage deck that did ok), epics compared to legendaries. You are also neglacting cost "It just costs 1 mana more". 1 mana is significant - especially when we are dealing with a top statted 3-drop, and 4/3 for 4 mana is not a good statline. 

As Its9l has mentioned I don't think that changing the wording to "A spell played this turn" will buff them by much as it's just an increase to the battlecry cost. This way you can at least invest a spell to activate the battlecry. 

Not exactly a problem.

Everyone build the deck thinking in shaman now and silence/weapon techs are useless vs them, if this rogue deck become a problem people will start to use Oozes and Spellbreakers.

It is a strong deck but unlike shaman need a good starting hand and specific cards, shaman the entire deck is broken and any card you draw will crush the opponent.

The only reson why Eater of Secrets and other secret destroyers work is because Battlecry triggers BEFORE the card is played. Flare only AFTER its played.

Before I begin, allow me to introduce myself. I am an entitled, ungrateful little brat who believes that a multi-conglomerate company such as Blizzard exists solely to cater to my primitive needs. My hobbies include microwaving pocket-shaped food, collecting vintage Mountain Dew cans, and sh**posting on the internet to garner attention from strangers.

I have been playing since beta, and despite the fact that I have been playing for 5 years straight without taking more than a day off, this expansion, Saviors of Uldum, will be the reason I uninstall the game. The meta is stale already, and I know this because, after just 24 hours, all decks have been perfected and the subtle capabilities of all 148 new cards have been fully resolved. Please, pay no mind to the numerous threats I've posted on this website in the past regarding previous expansions. Those didn't mean anything. This time I'm for real.

It is very important to me that you acknowledge my fragile feelings. Seeing as I am the most important and essential piece of framework in this entire universe, I am sure that having all of you know that I am leaving will validate my utter inability to socialize on any level of coherency resembling that of an adult and fortify my unfounded sense of entitlement to things the earning of which I took no part.

I am also undeniably sure that by creating this post, Blizzard will completely revamp their business model and change Hearthstone and all of its mechanics to my liking, because the millions of other customers that play and enjoy their game don't matter; only I do.

Gotta go. My pizza rolls are almost done.

Hey guys! I compiled highlights of nearly all of my OTKs, combos, and meme decks from Rise of Shadows!

Hope you'll give it a watch!

Thanks!

Blizzard: ,,Limitations:  Card draw and generation, board clear, Taunt"

also Blizzard:

Are people blind or what?

Reno isn't really a mage, Finley isn't really a PALADIN, elise isn't really a druid... It's about the item they are wearing in this expansion. That's is their temporary "class" identity.

Reno has a crystal canon -> Arcane mage stuff

Finley has a Golden fish -> gold, shiny, paladin, you know

Elise has a lunar staff -> balance druid stuff

Brann has a dinosaur and a rifle -> hunter thing.

They are just neutral explorers infused with the power of some items. 

Magnetic
Play this to the left of a Mech to fuse them together!

You cant play a minion if you have 7 minions on the board, case closed

Hello folks,
Yesterday on the 25th of may I've grinded my way from rank 50 to legend in 15:12 hours on a brand new account without spending a single penny. Here's my story:

Gif of the legend hitmark: https://gph.is/g/aXpjpxO

Tutorial - Rank 50
Everything that could go wrong, went wrong. I thought I'll just setup the stream, do the tutorial and go straight to ranked.
So I set the timer on at 16 hours and started. The stream recorded at 128p. My computer dropped frame-rates dramaticaly and I've had disconnects during the tutorial phase which made me do it again. Basically the first hour of the timer was me switch to another computer with better specs and getting the stream right. Once that was over with, I thought that the ranking could begin. Apperantly the starter quests don't begin unless you've cleared 5 games in solo adventure. I found this out after I played 2 games on rank 50 and lost both matches. Another 30 minutes gone. This was the only real set-back I had. From this way on things went pretty smoothly.

Rank 49 - 5
I couldn't have wished for a better result. During these ranks I've only had 4 loses. The timer went from 1:30 to 8:30 during these ranks. Still 7:30 hours left for the last phase.

Rank 5 - Legend
This is were the real grind started. My win-streak was over and the loses started to happen left and right. For the first 3 hours I was busy between rank 5 and rank 4 - 3 stars. I thought to myself "with this speed I'll never make it". Luckely after playing pretty 50-50 it went at a slow and steady phase, and it took another 3 hours and 45 minutes to get from rank 4 - 3 stars to legend.

Final word
I'm overwelmed with joy after reaching this. But also confused. Eventho the poor preperation I've had it still took 3:14 hours less than the previous "record". So can this record be broken? Absolutely! With the right preperation and slightly quicker turns is very posible. 

I did this challenge for several reasons. Besides my love for competitive gameplay it was also something I did for the community. The amount of negetivity I see on the forums is sad. Seeing all the complaints about how the game is "Pay2Win" - "Only about luck" - "Highrolling" - ect. I get it, people want quick validation and quick rewards. Whenever there's something new, like a expansion, there are so many topics of how people hate the changes and what not. I know that one person can't make a change to that, but I hope that doing this challenge will shed some light on the people that see this game as a joke. A the end of this all I still had 21 packs unopened. Which could be enough to make another high-rank, perhaps legend worthy deck. All I can say is: Practice makes perfect. Learn from your mistakes and enjoy the game.

Special thanks to the friends that came over to keep me company (some traveled as long as 2:30 hours for this). And to Maurice040684 and Kingofjaga on twitch that kept me company pretty much the entire grind.