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    posted a message on This combo seems problematic to me.
    Quote from TallStranger >>
    Quote from thazud >>
    Quote from DeafKnight >>
    Quote from thazud >>
    Quote from DeafKnight >>
    Quote from PetiteMouche >>

     My god you guys are so toxic.. The op is being respectful and reasonable, says things like "it SEEMS problematic TO ME", can't you just tell him why you think he's wrong ?

     

     It is indeed rather bemusing how many people seem to be losing their collective minds over the fact that I am personally concerned about a particular card and its interactions and that this was merely my opinion and certainly not written as being "hard fact". Lol I didn't realise people valued my opinions so highly around here! ;-)
    I'm probably flattered. Or something! Ahem!
    One person even raged about why I thought the card was "broken", even though it explicitly states I didn't think that, in the OP. 
    I mean, the guy could at least read the post before randomly spitting his dummy out? Lol! 

    Ah well! :-D

     Welcome to the internet!

    OT:
    This will hardly be problematic. Hearthstone has had single cards that does the same but better (e.g. Dirty Rat and Gnomeferatu) and they did not break the game. Besides, Hearthstone has seen a lot of aggro decks lately and this would be a horrible combo to use against such decks. 

    Maybe if very specific combo decks becomes a thing but then you would probably just use Ticktatus instead. One mana less and he destroys 5 cards. 

     Agreed.
    Let me just reiterate though :-  (for the sake of other people who may choose to misinterpret what I am saying once more)
    1. I do not think this breaks the game.
    2. I do not think this card is "broken".
    3. I do not think this card will break / kill the meta, or anything to that effect.
    4. I do not think this card is any use against aggro decks (seriously, why do people keep getting hung up on aggro decks here? Aggro decks have their own big counters to deal with). Not to mention that this can be a HUGE benefit to a good tempo deck that stalls your opponent's ability to keep up.
    5. There is really nothing wrong with speculation on new cards and mechanics. I mean, people laughed at cards like Tickatus and Carnival Clown etc and look what happened there! ;-) 

    I do, however, think - in my humble opinion - that this card is likely to cause problems for any decks which rely on specific minions to achieve their win condition. Mozaki, Yogg, Mallygoose, etc etc. It doesn't even require the Brewmaster to be that problem. If you can stall a combo deck by even one turn, it can be enough to win.
    Tickatus is also a problem for these decks. As are any cards that allow removal from hand / deck. 
    Once again, though - I don't believe any of these cards are broken or ruin the game or anything to that effect. 

    Is Tickatus better at removing cards from your opponent's deck? Yes, of course. 
    Is he better at forcing the opponent to discard a card he had been holding onto to complete his OTK kill? Definitely not. In fact, he's useless at that point. 

     It was not my intention to say you think the combo breaks the game - though I can see I frased it that way. It is still very RNG dependent and not a reliable way to remove a specific card. Say you want to target Malygos and the opponent has 8 cards in his hand. You are spending 7 mana for a 1/8 chance to disrupt his win condition. Otherwise you might just remove a random survivel tool or a burn spell that might not save you. Combo decks usually draw a lot of cards and have big hands. The only deck I can think that consistenly would be fucked by this combo is mechathun priest. 

    And not all combo decks keep their finishers in their opening hand. If I were to survive an aggressive meta I would keep Malygos and other high end finishers out of my hand because they are a terrible draw in the early game - I'd rather draw cards or keep removal to survive. Thus, a card like Ticktatus moves between 5 and 15 cards from your opponents deck. That is a lot better and a lot more consistent. Because you might not remove Malygos but removing 3 or 4 burst spells? That sucks. 

     

     

    Just a minor correction: in the situation you laid out, you do not have a 1/8 chance of discarding Malygos. Felsoul Jailer targets minions, not cards. So if your opponent only has a bunch of damage spells plus Malygos in hand, this card will hit its intended target.

    That doesn't mean the card or combo will be a problem or even a particularly good play, but it would be more effective/ useful than if it merely discarded random cards rather than minions.

     Cheers! I read the card as "discard a card" :-) I does make it better though but not consistent. 

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    posted a message on This combo seems problematic to me.
    Quote from DeafKnight >>
    Quote from thazud >>
    Quote from DeafKnight >>
    Quote from PetiteMouche >>

     My god you guys are so toxic.. The op is being respectful and reasonable, says things like "it SEEMS problematic TO ME", can't you just tell him why you think he's wrong ?

     

     It is indeed rather bemusing how many people seem to be losing their collective minds over the fact that I am personally concerned about a particular card and its interactions and that this was merely my opinion and certainly not written as being "hard fact". Lol I didn't realise people valued my opinions so highly around here! ;-)
    I'm probably flattered. Or something! Ahem!
    One person even raged about why I thought the card was "broken", even though it explicitly states I didn't think that, in the OP. 
    I mean, the guy could at least read the post before randomly spitting his dummy out? Lol! 

    Ah well! :-D

     Welcome to the internet!

    OT:
    This will hardly be problematic. Hearthstone has had single cards that does the same but better (e.g. Dirty Rat and Gnomeferatu) and they did not break the game. Besides, Hearthstone has seen a lot of aggro decks lately and this would be a horrible combo to use against such decks. 

    Maybe if very specific combo decks becomes a thing but then you would probably just use Ticktatus instead. One mana less and he destroys 5 cards. 

     Agreed.
    Let me just reiterate though :-  (for the sake of other people who may choose to misinterpret what I am saying once more)
    1. I do not think this breaks the game.
    2. I do not think this card is "broken".
    3. I do not think this card will break / kill the meta, or anything to that effect.
    4. I do not think this card is any use against aggro decks (seriously, why do people keep getting hung up on aggro decks here? Aggro decks have their own big counters to deal with). Not to mention that this can be a HUGE benefit to a good tempo deck that stalls your opponent's ability to keep up.
    5. There is really nothing wrong with speculation on new cards and mechanics. I mean, people laughed at cards like Tickatus and Carnival Clown etc and look what happened there! ;-) 

    I do, however, think - in my humble opinion - that this card is likely to cause problems for any decks which rely on specific minions to achieve their win condition. Mozaki, Yogg, Mallygoose, etc etc. It doesn't even require the Brewmaster to be that problem. If you can stall a combo deck by even one turn, it can be enough to win.
    Tickatus is also a problem for these decks. As are any cards that allow removal from hand / deck. 
    Once again, though - I don't believe any of these cards are broken or ruin the game or anything to that effect. 

    Is Tickatus better at removing cards from your opponent's deck? Yes, of course. 
    Is he better at forcing the opponent to discard a card he had been holding onto to complete his OTK kill? Definitely not. In fact, he's useless at that point. 

     It was not my intention to say you think the combo breaks the game - though I can see I frased it that way. It is still very RNG dependent and not a reliable way to remove a specific card. Say you want to target Malygos and the opponent has 8 cards in his hand. You are spending 7 mana for a 1/8 chance to disrupt his win condition. Otherwise you might just remove a random survivel tool or a burn spell that might not save you. Combo decks usually draw a lot of cards and have big hands. The only deck I can think that consistenly would be fucked by this combo is mechathun priest. 

    And not all combo decks keep their finishers in their opening hand. If I were to survive an aggressive meta I would keep Malygos and other high end finishers out of my hand because they are a terrible draw in the early game - I'd rather draw cards or keep removal to survive. Thus, a card like Ticktatus moves between 5 and 15 cards from your opponents deck. That is a lot better and a lot more consistent. Because you might not remove Malygos but removing 3 or 4 burst spells? That sucks. 

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    posted a message on This combo seems problematic to me.
    Quote from DeafKnight >>
    Quote from PetiteMouche >>

     My god you guys are so toxic.. The op is being respectful and reasonable, says things like "it SEEMS problematic TO ME", can't you just tell him why you think he's wrong ?

     

     It is indeed rather bemusing how many people seem to be losing their collective minds over the fact that I am personally concerned about a particular card and its interactions and that this was merely my opinion and certainly not written as being "hard fact". Lol I didn't realise people valued my opinions so highly around here! ;-)
    I'm probably flattered. Or something! Ahem!
    One person even raged about why I thought the card was "broken", even though it explicitly states I didn't think that, in the OP. 
    I mean, the guy could at least read the post before randomly spitting his dummy out? Lol! 

    Ah well! :-D

     Welcome to the internet!

    OT:
    This will hardly be problematic. Hearthstone has had single cards that does the same but better (e.g. Dirty Rat and Gnomeferatu) and they did not break the game. Besides, Hearthstone has seen a lot of aggro decks lately and this would be a horrible combo to use against such decks. 

    Maybe if very specific combo decks becomes a thing but then you would probably just use Ticktatus instead. One mana less and he destroys 5 cards. 

    Posted in: General Discussion
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    posted a message on Blizzard 30 Years - From The Vault - Cinematic & Art

    lol bli$$ard just recycling old cinematics now with voiceovers! they don't put in any effort anymore and instead they release demon hunter. Í want more packs. 

    ... am I doing it right? 

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    posted a message on WILD is broken!!!! AGAIN

     Keep the board clear and Tiller has nothing to attack. What's the issue?

    These Warlock/Priest decks have no other threats.

    Not super fun to play but easily beatable.

    I have no idea how the combo works but I want to be a smartass anyway

     Fixed that for you buddy!

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    posted a message on WILD is broken!!!! AGAIN

    I hope they increase the animation speed of Wretched Tiller. Climbing takes way too long because of the slow animation, and I have to watch him deal negative 30 damage as well. Come on Blizzard! 

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    posted a message on Two new secrets for Priest

    Custom HS combined with salt. It's better than your average salt thread.

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    posted a message on [Bug Report] Bomb Warrior vs Polkelt

    Man you insist on being wrong! 

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    posted a message on Tervern pass is necessary now to get a chance at a decent hero.
    Quote from rogerdodger >>
    Quote from thazud >>

    I know the people at the salt thread would love to discuss this with you! 

     For someone that quit hearthstone you sure hover around contributing nothing.

     I stay for the high quality content: "ConVInCe mE TO pLay ThiS MoDe tHaT I dOnT WanT to PaY FoR"

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    posted a message on Tervern pass is necessary now to get a chance at a decent hero.

    I know the people at the salt thread would love to discuss this with you! 

    Posted in: Battlegrounds
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    posted a message on 99% certain

    Here are how these things usually go: 

    1. Dude plays against a certain deck - in this case: bomb warrior.
    2. Dude loses to the deck a few times.
    3. Dude thinks: "Fucking OP deck. I am gonna wreck them" - in this case: adds Ooze. 
    4. Dude plays ladder again with new confidence and ready to farm bomb warriors.
    5. Dude faces a deck that is not bomb warrior, e.g. Priest, draws his useless Ooze who is just a 2 mana 3/2. 
    6. Annoyed dude plays another ranked game because fuck bomb warrior.
    7. Annoyed dude faces another non-bomb warrior deck, e.g. mage, draws his Ooze and gets enraged because: "BlizzArD HatEs mE" 
    8. Enraged dudes realizes this is a conspiracy, plays an extra game or two to confirm his theory.
    9. Enraged dude seeks conformation on his bia...theory among other fellow dudes, creates a thread on Hearthpwn, exaggerates his numbers, leaves out data from his small data pool, does not get the desired response and quits the thread.

    Cheers

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    posted a message on How is it fair they nerf heroes before they get released to everyone?

    I haven't paid for the BG pass and I played with him. Guess this is /thread

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    posted a message on What do you believe is the biggest contributing factor to existing players not returning? (POLL)

    Personally, I quit Hearthstone prior to the release of the Scholomance expansion. The main reason I quit Hearthstone was because RNG became too big a factor, and I did not enjoy the player experience anymore. 

    However, the reason I won't come back to the game is: the economy and packs. I have thrown more money into Hearhstone than I'd like to admit, and even so my collection is far from full.

    • It is simply too expensive to catch up. Hearthstone offers little to no help to catch up. There are only two ways to come back: 1) Pay up 2) A major grind. I do not have the patience to grind Hearthstone because the I don't like the player experience enough, so that basically excludes option 2. 
    • Packs! Because even if I do plan on spending money on the game again then the pack system might screw me over. I have bought multiple pre-order deals and 40 pack bundles (50 €!) and often I have not gotten anything out of it. Sure, a bad legendary, a bunch of useless epics and so on. But the cards I need? Nah, better luck next time. It's just tedious to open packs. 

    Compare this to Legends of Runeterra: Great economy, F2P friendly, you buy cards and not packs and so on. I have been able to craft the entire previous expansion (except for a few epics), and I can craft every relevant card of the upcoming expansion. As long as Hearthstone is more of a gamble than a collector’s game, I am out - except for a few game of battegrounds here and there. 

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    posted a message on cant buy the adventure for Cleric of Scales

     Contact Blizzard instead of asking for help here.

    https://us.battle.net/support/en/help

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    posted a message on Disapointed in Hearthstone now
    Quote from KingCarnage >>
    Quote from thazud >>

    I get where you are coming from. I quit playing Hearthstine prior to Scholomance Acadademy because I didn't like the direction Hearthstone took, and I found a CCG that was more to my liking. I think Hearthstone is a game that is fun to watch Youtube highlights from and frustrating to play. 

    However, instead of creating a post that's just a bunch of salt about various meta decks then stop playing. Do something with your time that you like. You can create threads like these about every meta in Hearthstone (except in the early days), and you can find tons of similar threads in the forums on Hearthpwn. There is nothing new about it; you just don't like this meta.

    Blizzard has powercreeped the hell out of the game, and they will probably continue to do so - unless they release Hearthstone 2. 

     

     

     Name of game?

     I do not want to derail the topic (though it is not going anywhere) but it's Legends of Runeterra. 

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