when i'm on tilt i usually stop playing for a couple of days and play other games i hav in my pc, i also intentionally avoid card games during the tilting periods, i'd recommend you to try magicmaker, if you are not a "graphics its everything that matters" kind of person you'll find an extensive spell system and it's on steam for the cheap.
I have won about 500 games, on various classes. Best rank i have reached is 14, wich isnt very impressive.. :(
If that is true, you are probably really bad at the game. You need to improve a lot man. You have played lots of games and yet your best rank is 14, that really sucks dude.
what a usefull comment :)
Sorry, but I'm just telling you the truth.
I know i suck, i wouldnt have made the forum post if i didnt.. Im just asking for some advise.. But its fine.. you know, people on the internet..
The "I know I suck" outlook won't get you anywhere. Think to yourself about how you can win, how you can improve, and what you are doing wrong. My main advice is take breaks when you get tilted, and take things slow while playing. I had the same problem until I calmed myself down and took games slowly and looked at all my options. Music can also help you concentrate on the game/tune out people around you
If I were OP, I would stop playing this game forever.
Seriously whats wrong with you? About a year ago you were one of the good guys here
I stayed at 14 for the longest, and I'm not bad at all, in fact now that I stopped net decking I easily streak up to 10, and I play about 2 hrs a week, maybe less on ladder if I'm playing a lot of arena that week. Sherman is definitely talking out of his you know what. Maybe he had a bad day.
If I were OP, I would stop playing this game forever.
Here comes Sherman, knowing nothing about everything. Just ignore this guy. He's the loudest voice with the least to say. A walking validation of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Being stuck at rank 14 surely has nothing to do with the prevalence of Pirate Warrior, or the increasingly difficult-to-navigate meta. A byproduct of people netdecking the strongest decks more and more often.
Don't be too hard on yourself, OP. Just take a deep breath, realize most people are boring, tryhard scrubs, and just keep practicing, tuning and trying. You'll get there.
Although you might be making bad plays, if you were, that doesn't usually lead to as much frustration as I think you have, since you can ususally see that you had other options and can try something different. Probably your decks aren't refined enough.
Go to practice mode. Believe it or not, alot of the bugs in your deck can be ironed out just playing against AI. Against basic AI, you can test for consistency and effectiveness. Against Expert AI, notably Mage, Shaman, and paladin, you can see how your deck deals with various forms of aggression. If your health goes below 10 against AI, you definitely would have lost against an actual opponent. Pay attention to the Misplays the AI makes. Blizzard has programmed the AI to be horrible so that you can see how bad they are and learn from it.
But at the same time, if you don't have alot of the cards, it can be hard to figure out what the best deck is with the cards you do have, so you'll have to do alot of experimenting.
On top of that, there are already some pretty refined decks out there that are straight up busted. Especially Quest Rogue. Although the quality of the game is greatly reduced because of a few stupid cards, you can still enjoy yourself.
Personally I'm a basically FTP player, I've only bought the adventures. I've been playing for a little over 2 years, and I'm really enjoying arena mode. Arena right now is really good, requires alot of skill. But if you don't consider yourself the best of players, I suggest just trying to work on your decks.
Hope it helps, even though it probably won't lol. .. :/
I will say that learning how to do well in Arena improved my game immensely, and I had to use Heartharena to start. Heartharena itself is a very good tool because it tracks things like reach, pings taunt, etc and gets you thinking about all that stuff when you build decks.
Try watching streamers, watch constructed play, watch wild play, watch arena play, whichever interests you. Listen to their reasoning on certain plays, and try to think what you would do.
Play arena too. At first it is bad for your gold if you are bad at arena, but in arena play you will really have to draft good decks and make the right plays. Read arena tier lists and use Innkeeper. You have as decent of a chance as anyone else if you draft a good deck, but you also have to know those decks and make the right plays to do well. Watching people who stream arena play might help you out to learn winning ways to play. If you can get good at arena, you can improve your play and ultimately make hugely more efficient card/gold/dust gains per gold use. And then use the skills you learned in playing that to make and play a better constructed deck.
Also have fun. Playing games should be conducive to having fun. Play wild. Depending on your card collection, you can have infinite fun with crazy decks in wild. Or even just build a ridiculous combo deck for constructed that just does something crazy.
Dude, pay no attention to trolls, really - it's normal, and Rank 14 is actually in top 15% Ranked if I'm not mistaken, it says so while opening the chest after the end of the season.
As others, more sensible ones, mentioned - choose one archetype and stick to it, switch to Casual for some time if you need to.
Don't give up, the clarity will come - I'm still waiting for mine as well (Rank 8 at most).
I actually don't recommend casual unless you go to wild, because in casual there are just people playing top tier decks that are going to casual just to get some free wins for quests. It's not actually a casual place. It's just unranked. But WIld is much more casual.
Well sometimes game screw you up really hard Today I played two aggro deck discozoo and midrange hunter %70 against taunt warior I was hoping to play against cavern rogue all the time. This happens time to time so I craft a new deck each time this happens and it works.
I am by no means a pro player on hearthstone, but I have been a long time ccg player/judgeI have to agree with many posts here, choose a couple deck archetypes (aggro,control,otk etc) and a couple classes. Focus on them, I run 3 decks in a season, switch up when one gets in a down hill streak. But play them regularly, every game is a way to learn, if you are intent on getting higher ranks then prepare to lose often.
When the metas change it takes time to see how decks interact, and what is favored. If you want to run someone else's deck, watch them play it. If you make your own, post it on here so you can track your changes, note your advantages.
I have a priest deck I am working on that is fun, but isn't quite ladder ready, I still play it every day for at least 5-20 games depending on my free time. I play to have fun, then I play to win. Just keep practicing, you will find your way to win.
@Sherman1986, constructive criticism > troll criticism. Even the pros ask for advice.
Ahh yes the typical Hearthpwn post. "I'm having a bad time. I'm aware that I may not be all that good. Any advice for a newbie?" "YEAH I AGREE YOU SUCK! UNINSTALL NOOB!"
Here's a non-toxic answer. Take a break. Find advice on the specific deck you're using. What've you been using to ladder? You never mentioned what you've been using. If you want to legit improve then you have to ask for specific feedback on your plays, not just say "I'm doing bad, what do I do?" because you won't get many answers apart from "take a break" and "maybe you suck."
I hate to say it but Hearthstone is very much p2p. Especially with the new quests, most people who are successful will buy a lot of packs, look up decks on hearthpwn and craft the cards necessary to make a deck that climbs ladder. If you dont want to be that kindof guy, just play casual with your own deck ideas and wait for your elo to settle. Stressing out over anything sucks, and so does spending $$ on a virtual world.
I'd agree with most of these posts, but I will say it sounds a bit like one thing that also might help is to adjust your mindset and how you view you progress/losses.
As far as rank/wins goes I think ~500 and hitting a plateau of 14 is probably just fine, and there's nothing to be ashamed about there. The more important thing is are you making progress? It can be something as obvious as making R14 this month and R13 the next, or something as abstract as learning who's the "beatdown" and getting better at core concepts. It's also completely legitimate that if you don't want to be bothered to work on small things to improve and would rather play in a way you find fun (a friend of mine plays rarely, but when he does he just makes Murloc decks), but you may need to stop viewing the game in a competitive light and just be content with where the win streaks take you.
As far as losing consistently to people who draw the nuts or because you draw super badly, it's important to realize the human brain is really bad at trying to find patterns to draw conclusions. You will absolutely have massive streaks where you feel like the world hates you, and streaks where you always seem to topdeck the exact cards you need, and most of the time you're probably just going to have a mix of the two. Sometimes you win/lose because of something crazy that happens from RNG, but an important part of getting better is trying to play the odds and taking the best lines to win the game. If you draw a bad hand what kind of risks will you need to take in a game to try and win still? If you're ahead what are the ways you can minimize risk and avoid having your opponent make a comeback? What outs do you have at any one point, and which ones give you the best chance to win?
I don't suggest changing decks/cards constantly if you're learning a new deck, and I feel like if your goal is to learn one of the top decks it's just better to steal a list you know someone has had work for them and learn to mulligan/pilot it well before making changes. If you don't find the list fun to play then maybe it's time to switch, but the emphasis is on that you're choosing to swap because you don't like the archetype or it's been awhile and you want a change of pace. Once you play 20-30 games with a deck you start seeing how the average impact of RNG is pretty even and I think that helps a lot with feeling like you're never lucky.
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Stuff like that happends alot to me, not matter wich deck im choosing to play. I feel like im outlucked 60% of the time and outplayed 40%..
This is one of your biggest problems, you're already starting to blame luck as being responsible for the majority of your losses. I guarantee you're making a ton of mistakes and you don't even know it.
Change your mindset to think about how you could have played better. Record and playback some games and see if there was a different play you could have made to win. Once you start going to the, "I'm so unlucky" route, it's just an excuse and a crutch for bad plays.
Stuff like that happends alot to me, not matter wich deck im choosing to play. I feel like im outlucked 60% of the time and outplayed 40%..
This is one of your biggest problems, you're already starting to blame luck as being responsible for the majority of your losses. I guarantee you're making a ton of mistakes and you don't even know it.
Change your mindset to think about how you could have played better. Record and playback some games and see if there was a different play you could have made to win. Once you start going to the, "I'm so unlucky" route, it's just an excuse and a crutch for bad plays.
I'd agree with this a lot, in fact some of the highest level plays are based on something that will happen 2+ turns from now, and it's not always obvious like some would have you believe.
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when i'm on tilt i usually stop playing for a couple of days and play other games i hav in my pc, i also intentionally avoid card games during the tilting periods, i'd recommend you to try magicmaker, if you are not a "graphics its everything that matters" kind of person you'll find an extensive spell system and it's on steam for the cheap.
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Just ignore this guy. He's the loudest voice with the least to say. A walking validation of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Being stuck at rank 14 surely has nothing to do with the prevalence of Pirate Warrior, or the increasingly difficult-to-navigate meta. A byproduct of people netdecking the strongest decks more and more often.
Although you might be making bad plays, if you were, that doesn't usually lead to as much frustration as I think you have, since you can ususally see that you had other options and can try something different. Probably your decks aren't refined enough.
Go to practice mode. Believe it or not, alot of the bugs in your deck can be ironed out just playing against AI. Against basic AI, you can test for consistency and effectiveness. Against Expert AI, notably Mage, Shaman, and paladin, you can see how your deck deals with various forms of aggression. If your health goes below 10 against AI, you definitely would have lost against an actual opponent. Pay attention to the Misplays the AI makes. Blizzard has programmed the AI to be horrible so that you can see how bad they are and learn from it.
But at the same time, if you don't have alot of the cards, it can be hard to figure out what the best deck is with the cards you do have, so you'll have to do alot of experimenting.
On top of that, there are already some pretty refined decks out there that are straight up busted. Especially Quest Rogue. Although the quality of the game is greatly reduced because of a few stupid cards, you can still enjoy yourself.
Personally I'm a basically FTP player, I've only bought the adventures. I've been playing for a little over 2 years, and I'm really enjoying arena mode. Arena right now is really good, requires alot of skill. But if you don't consider yourself the best of players, I suggest just trying to work on your decks.
Hope it helps, even though it probably won't lol. .. :/
I like to make cards and discuss game balance.
I enjoy when "No similar decks were found."
My latest deck: http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1366184-scholomance-charge-rez-priest-wild
I will say that learning how to do well in Arena improved my game immensely, and I had to use Heartharena to start. Heartharena itself is a very good tool because it tracks things like reach, pings taunt, etc and gets you thinking about all that stuff when you build decks.
Try watching streamers, watch constructed play, watch wild play, watch arena play, whichever interests you. Listen to their reasoning on certain plays, and try to think what you would do.
Play arena too. At first it is bad for your gold if you are bad at arena, but in arena play you will really have to draft good decks and make the right plays. Read arena tier lists and use Innkeeper. You have as decent of a chance as anyone else if you draft a good deck, but you also have to know those decks and make the right plays to do well. Watching people who stream arena play might help you out to learn winning ways to play. If you can get good at arena, you can improve your play and ultimately make hugely more efficient card/gold/dust gains per gold use. And then use the skills you learned in playing that to make and play a better constructed deck.
Also have fun. Playing games should be conducive to having fun. Play wild. Depending on your card collection, you can have infinite fun with crazy decks in wild. Or even just build a ridiculous combo deck for constructed that just does something crazy.
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Profit.
Lol what.
Dude, pay no attention to trolls, really - it's normal, and Rank 14 is actually in top 15% Ranked if I'm not mistaken, it says so while opening the chest after the end of the season.
As others, more sensible ones, mentioned - choose one archetype and stick to it, switch to Casual for some time if you need to.
Don't give up, the clarity will come - I'm still waiting for mine as well (Rank 8 at most).
I actually don't recommend casual unless you go to wild, because in casual there are just people playing top tier decks that are going to casual just to get some free wins for quests. It's not actually a casual place. It's just unranked. But WIld is much more casual.
I like to make cards and discuss game balance.
I enjoy when "No similar decks were found."
My latest deck: http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1366184-scholomance-charge-rez-priest-wild
Well sometimes game screw you up really hard Today I played two aggro deck discozoo and midrange hunter %70 against taunt warior I was hoping to play against cavern rogue all the time. This happens time to time so I craft a new deck each time this happens and it works.
I am by no means a pro player on hearthstone, but I have been a long time ccg player/judgeI have to agree with many posts here, choose a couple deck archetypes (aggro,control,otk etc) and a couple classes. Focus on them, I run 3 decks in a season, switch up when one gets in a down hill streak. But play them regularly, every game is a way to learn, if you are intent on getting higher ranks then prepare to lose often.
When the metas change it takes time to see how decks interact, and what is favored. If you want to run someone else's deck, watch them play it. If you make your own, post it on here so you can track your changes, note your advantages.
I have a priest deck I am working on that is fun, but isn't quite ladder ready, I still play it every day for at least 5-20 games depending on my free time. I play to have fun, then I play to win. Just keep practicing, you will find your way to win.
@Sherman1986, constructive criticism > troll criticism. Even the pros ask for advice.
Cute, ineffective, but cute.
Git gud.
Ahh yes the typical Hearthpwn post.
"I'm having a bad time. I'm aware that I may not be all that good. Any advice for a newbie?"
"YEAH I AGREE YOU SUCK! UNINSTALL NOOB!"
Here's a non-toxic answer. Take a break. Find advice on the specific deck you're using. What've you been using to ladder? You never mentioned what you've been using. If you want to legit improve then you have to ask for specific feedback on your plays, not just say "I'm doing bad, what do I do?" because you won't get many answers apart from "take a break" and "maybe you suck."
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I hate to say it but Hearthstone is very much p2p. Especially with the new quests, most people who are successful will buy a lot of packs, look up decks on hearthpwn and craft the cards necessary to make a deck that climbs ladder. If you dont want to be that kindof guy, just play casual with your own deck ideas and wait for your elo to settle. Stressing out over anything sucks, and so does spending $$ on a virtual world.
I'd agree with most of these posts, but I will say it sounds a bit like one thing that also might help is to adjust your mindset and how you view you progress/losses.
As far as rank/wins goes I think ~500 and hitting a plateau of 14 is probably just fine, and there's nothing to be ashamed about there. The more important thing is are you making progress? It can be something as obvious as making R14 this month and R13 the next, or something as abstract as learning who's the "beatdown" and getting better at core concepts. It's also completely legitimate that if you don't want to be bothered to work on small things to improve and would rather play in a way you find fun (a friend of mine plays rarely, but when he does he just makes Murloc decks), but you may need to stop viewing the game in a competitive light and just be content with where the win streaks take you.
As far as losing consistently to people who draw the nuts or because you draw super badly, it's important to realize the human brain is really bad at trying to find patterns to draw conclusions. You will absolutely have massive streaks where you feel like the world hates you, and streaks where you always seem to topdeck the exact cards you need, and most of the time you're probably just going to have a mix of the two. Sometimes you win/lose because of something crazy that happens from RNG, but an important part of getting better is trying to play the odds and taking the best lines to win the game. If you draw a bad hand what kind of risks will you need to take in a game to try and win still? If you're ahead what are the ways you can minimize risk and avoid having your opponent make a comeback? What outs do you have at any one point, and which ones give you the best chance to win?
I don't suggest changing decks/cards constantly if you're learning a new deck, and I feel like if your goal is to learn one of the top decks it's just better to steal a list you know someone has had work for them and learn to mulligan/pilot it well before making changes. If you don't find the list fun to play then maybe it's time to switch, but the emphasis is on that you're choosing to swap because you don't like the archetype or it's been awhile and you want a change of pace. Once you play 20-30 games with a deck you start seeing how the average impact of RNG is pretty even and I think that helps a lot with feeling like you're never lucky.
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