No, she's literally run in 1 deck for the first time ever. Everyone wanted battle rage nerfed, no one does anymore. When secret pally falls outta favor everyone will stop crying over this card and move on to another
There's no need to nerf Secret Keeper, MC or Secret Paladin in general. The deck will be dead without Avenge.
It won't be dead as such, it would just take one of the most OP secrets out of play. I do think there will be a new secret released for each (secret) class.
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I mean, they could make that nerf, but from what I've seen that wouldn't actually do much to nerf the deck. It's a strong card in that one deck, yeah, but it isn't a make-or-break card.
Secretkeeper is fine. It was never broken in the past and the only reason it's used now is to give Secret Paladin use for secrets when they don't pull them from Mysterious Challenger. If the deck didn't have Mysterious Challenger, Secretkeeper would go right back to the trash heap, where it was before. Sure, you get some crazy openers sometimes, but you could do that before Mysterious Challenger came around and hardly anyone played it back then.
It's like relying on Mana Wyrm to win you the game. It can happen, but it's not why you play the card.
Why would they? Avenge is huge for secret pali and it's going. Otherwise it's never getting used as well and secretkeeper has never lost me a game or something. It's not that big of a deal and they should focus more on cards like Alexstrasza, Knife jugler and Savage Roar
Lets be real....the deck is dead...not only Avenge, but losing Minibot, Muster, coghammer, haunted creeper, belcher and shredder puts this deck to rest. This deck needs minions to be sticky or to flood the board and they lose that ability with standard so wild it may still be strong but that is without whatever new cards are released.
I don't know if secret paladin is going to be dead after this card will get nerfed(assuming it is) and after loosing Avenge. Paladins in general,not only secret,are loosing much important cards like Shielded Minibot and Muster for Battle but even without these 2 cards Secret Pala is dead for sure. I say let's wait and see what secret is gonna be added (for sure is gonna be one) and what other cards are gonna be added. For now yes Secret Paladin seems almost dead,but i won't be surprised if we're gonna see some even more powerful form of this annoying deck after the Expansion hits.
It's an annoying card; and I do think the +1/+1 mechanic is generally bad design. However, I would be surprised if Secretkeeper gets nerfed. It is really only used in the aggro variant of Secret Pally, which (at least in my opinion) is the much weaker iteration of that deck. If they do nerf it, it will just be 1/2 +1/0 for each secret played. 1/3 with snowball is for class 1-drops.
The Cards out of the classic set that they're going to adjust are cards that never leave the meta like Knife Juggler and Leper Gnome. Things that offer no design room because they out match most other cards of its play range.
Secret Keeper is not like the two above. It's an extremely niche card that is only really good in a deck that 8-12 of the cards are secrets, and even then it's bad compared to Leper Gnome who can garauntee 2 damage and possibly 4-6 as a turn 1 play.
There is a possibility that Secret pally will stick around but hopefuly less cancerous. Aside from strong cards like minibot and muster, MC still gives so much value for the cost and can be a bit problematic. With Avenge gone MC will now dodge BGH after fighting hard for maintaining a controllable board.(then again there's a chance that they'll change BGH). Paladins will definitley take a hit when shielded minibot and muster is rotated out but there's a high chance that there will be some sort of decent substitute for them on and new secrets..
Secret Keeper will not be nerfed. In Standard there will likely be no Secret Paladin any more, because as many other already have mentioned, Avenge and Paladin's strong early game will be gone (depending on the new Expansion). In wild, nerfing Secret keeper will not Change anything to Secret Paladin. I personally run a Version of Secret Paladin with Zombie Chow and it works more reliable. Of course, I do not have the Chance of a crazy Secret Keeper + 3-5 Secret opener and snowball into a win, but I do not need to. Shielded Minibot , Muster for Battle, Piloted Shredder and Truesilver Champion (+ maybe Blessing of Kings ) are much more important for the success of the deck than Secret Keeper.
Your title implies that you heard something substantial about this card being nerfed, but it's more like you are speculating. I wish people could learn to title threads better.
There's no need to nerf Secret Keeper, MC or Secret Paladin in general. The deck will be dead without Avenge.
Sure. But what about wild?
There it will be as strong as it is today. But that is not secret keeper's fault, but the Paladin's early game. Nerfing Secret keeper will not nerf secret Paladin. I tend to add "at all".
If they're gonna nerf her though, she will probably receive the Eaglehorn Bow nerfbat (eg whenever a friendly secret is played...), which doesn't really change much.
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Secretkeeper isn't a hard card to counter. Silence, BGH, Early game minions, Removal etc. Really no need to nerf it.
You could do the same to Undertaker and yet Undertaker was nerfed.. just to never see play again.. and yes you can argue that Secretkeeper uses worse cards.. that's true deathrattle minions are strong in general but the secret aren't that's why Secretkeeper isn't the thing most people complain since playing the secrets is a risk while playing the deathrattle minions wasn't.
In general secret paladin as we know it is totally dead in standard cause most of the cards used in the deck and the strongest paladin secret Avenge is out of the system.. I am not sure if paladin get a new secret in the new expansion at all.. but who knows.. I am still convinced Secret paladin won't be top tier deck if paladin doesn't get HEAVY support from the new expansion, and doesn't get nerfed at all.. it won't happen since a great card in almost every paladin deck gets nerfed (Knife Juggler) and paladin loses his strong early game cards.
Secretkeeper isn't too strong outside of paladin decks in any way as the card can't be played without cheap secrets let's face it.. hunter playing Secretkeeper turn 1 and then relying on drawing a secret by turn 2 won't be anything special.. and mage? nah..
Secrets in general will probably be played less since mad scientist is going away I hope for a new way to benefit from playing secrets or a way to play them cheaper as they are good for the game in general.
Secretkeeper is too strong in Secret Paladin, since they won't nerf MC, the only way to balance Secret deck is nerf this 1-cost minion.
I think they will change her to 1/1/3 whenever a Secret is played, gain+1/+0。
What's your point??
There's no need to nerf Secret Keeper, MC or Secret Paladin in general. The deck will be dead without Avenge.
No, she's literally run in 1 deck for the first time ever. Everyone wanted battle rage nerfed, no one does anymore. When secret pally falls outta favor everyone will stop crying over this card and move on to another
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I mean, they could make that nerf, but from what I've seen that wouldn't actually do much to nerf the deck. It's a strong card in that one deck, yeah, but it isn't a make-or-break card.
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Secretkeeper is fine. It was never broken in the past and the only reason it's used now is to give Secret Paladin use for secrets when they don't pull them from Mysterious Challenger. If the deck didn't have Mysterious Challenger, Secretkeeper would go right back to the trash heap, where it was before. Sure, you get some crazy openers sometimes, but you could do that before Mysterious Challenger came around and hardly anyone played it back then.
It's like relying on Mana Wyrm to win you the game. It can happen, but it's not why you play the card.
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Why would they? Avenge is huge for secret pali and it's going. Otherwise it's never getting used as well and secretkeeper has never lost me a game or something. It's not that big of a deal and they should focus more on cards like Alexstrasza, Knife jugler and Savage Roar
Lets be real....the deck is dead...not only Avenge, but losing Minibot, Muster, coghammer, haunted creeper, belcher and shredder puts this deck to rest. This deck needs minions to be sticky or to flood the board and they lose that ability with standard so wild it may still be strong but that is without whatever new cards are released.
I don't know if secret paladin is going to be dead after this card will get nerfed(assuming it is) and after loosing Avenge. Paladins in general,not only secret,are loosing much important cards like Shielded Minibot and Muster for Battle but even without these 2 cards Secret Pala is dead for sure. I say let's wait and see what secret is gonna be added (for sure is gonna be one) and what other cards are gonna be added. For now yes Secret Paladin seems almost dead,but i won't be surprised if we're gonna see some even more powerful form of this annoying deck after the Expansion hits.
It's an annoying card; and I do think the +1/+1 mechanic is generally bad design. However, I would be surprised if Secretkeeper gets nerfed. It is really only used in the aggro variant of Secret Pally, which (at least in my opinion) is the much weaker iteration of that deck. If they do nerf it, it will just be 1/2 +1/0 for each secret played. 1/3 with snowball is for class 1-drops.
Secret Pally will lose Shielded minibot, Muster, Piloted Shreddr, Avenge...no need to nerf Secretkeepr
The Cards out of the classic set that they're going to adjust are cards that never leave the meta like Knife Juggler and Leper Gnome. Things that offer no design room because they out match most other cards of its play range.
Secret Keeper is not like the two above. It's an extremely niche card that is only really good in a deck that 8-12 of the cards are secrets, and even then it's bad compared to Leper Gnome who can garauntee 2 damage and possibly 4-6 as a turn 1 play.
There is a possibility that Secret pally will stick around but hopefuly less cancerous. Aside from strong cards like minibot and muster, MC still gives so much value for the cost and can be a bit problematic. With Avenge gone MC will now dodge BGH after fighting hard for maintaining a controllable board.(then again there's a chance that they'll change BGH). Paladins will definitley take a hit when shielded minibot and muster is rotated out but there's a high chance that there will be some sort of decent substitute for them on and new secrets..
Secret Keeper will not be nerfed. In Standard there will likely be no Secret Paladin any more, because as many other already have mentioned, Avenge and Paladin's strong early game will be gone (depending on the new Expansion). In wild, nerfing Secret keeper will not Change anything to Secret Paladin. I personally run a Version of Secret Paladin with Zombie Chow and it works more reliable. Of course, I do not have the Chance of a crazy Secret Keeper + 3-5 Secret opener and snowball into a win, but I do not need to. Shielded Minibot , Muster for Battle, Piloted Shredder and Truesilver Champion (+ maybe Blessing of Kings ) are much more important for the success of the deck than Secret Keeper.
Your title implies that you heard something substantial about this card being nerfed, but it's more like you are speculating. I wish people could learn to title threads better.
I don't think so.
If they're gonna nerf her though, she will probably receive the Eaglehorn Bow nerfbat (eg whenever a friendly secret is played...), which doesn't really change much.
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