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Casual is ladder without the stars

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 Regardless if you complain about netdecking in casual we can aggree that you shouldn't be able to do quests or atleast not get 10g after 3 wins in casual.

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 Regardless if you complain about netdecking in casual we can aggree that you shouldn't be able to do quests or atleast not get 10g after 3 wins in casual.

No, just no.

*Loading up casual to try out a silly paladin deck*

BAM! Aggro Shaman! Pirate Warrior! Reno Mage! Miracle Rogue! 

*Checks if i accidentally had ranked instead* - nope.

So if it's not obvious by now, my question to you guys is: If you're playing Casual, why are you bringing in meta decks? 

Sorry if this comes off in a rude manor, it's the only way i can give the question straight forward, but i'm sure i'm going to be bombarded by people saying "I just want to try out a meta deck before i go into ranked". I just don't understand how that excuse works properly. Why not just play ranked? If you're at a point, where you need some practice runs with a fairly accessible deck then your rank should be an irrelevant thing to you. And if you're so desperate to learn the deck, the best way isn't to play against somebody playing "Miracle-Beast-Dragon-Reno-Paladin". If you do that, you'll just crush them and learn absolutely nothing from it as opposed to going into ranked, facing against an Aggro Shaman and getting the "You can't lose stars at this rank" prompt and actually learning. You're more then likely going to learn i should just be playing aggro shaman, but it's learning none-the-less. 

Now i'm sure i'm probably going to come off "salty", but i'm genuinely not. In a sense, i'm also asking this for a guy that quit the second he saw me play a Buccaneer and later friended me to ask me if it was a so and so deck, in which i said no and he complained about seeing all the net decks in casuals. But that aside, in trying out my silly deck i ended up having a lot of fun and a decent win-rate with the only boring matchup coming from "dead on turn 5" i mean a perfectly curved out Pirate-Dragon Warrior. But in facing against these people i just kept asking myself "Why?" 

All this lead me to a wishlist idea for Hearthstone of some sort. (More of a wish item then list). How would you guys feel about adding an extra casual mode, or revamping the current casual mode to exclude/ban all the specific "cancerous" cards that makes ranked so annoying? Now, i'm sure it's going to get a lot hate and i realize blizzard is too lazy to balance cards as is, how could i ever imagine them having a mode where they have to actually keep up with their own games meta! How crazy of an idea right?! But i think it'd be pretty cool to be able to go into a mode where i don't have to worry about seeing: Reno, C'Thun, Patches, Shaman or something like Jade Idol. I don't know, what do you guys think?

If they removed the possibility of making gold in casual it would be fine

They play aggro. Do you think they'd have the brains to figure that out?

Well, since that's half of the ladder, it's great practice for you to fine tune your decks to deal with 7-damage on turn 2. 

Just play casual in wild-much less standard decks there

Quote from wybieram >>

Kind of a salt thread but I really need to share my thoughts. I've recently been testing some decks in casual mode and what I've experienced were just people playing Aggro Shaman/Pirate Warrior all along. I mean, what's the point? With these decks you could easily get top ranks and rewards on ladder.

Apart from the annoying super aggressive nature of pirate decks, it just somehow seems like it's bad for both sides. One group of people can't test some fun/incomplete decks in casual and the second one plays there with pirates disregarding the lost opportunity for ladder benefits (Reward chest/Golden Heroes). 

Could someone explain why do people do it? Is it just all about grinding gold by preying on weaker decks?

Quote from wybieram >>

Kind of a salt thread but I really need to share my thoughts. I've recently been testing some decks in casual mode and what I've experienced were just people playing Aggro Shaman/Pirate Warrior all along. I mean, what's the point? With these decks you could easily get top ranks and rewards on ladder.

Apart from the annoying super aggressive nature of pirate decks, it just somehow seems like it's bad for both sides. One group of people can't test some fun/incomplete decks in casual and the second one plays there with pirates disregarding the lost opportunity for ladder benefits (Reward chest/Golden Heroes). 

Could someone explain why do people do it? Is it just all about grinding gold by preying on weaker decks?

First of all, can't tell a person where to play with their stuff. They earned it, there are no mode restrictions, so they have all the right to do what they want to do with their cards.

But there's the thing, those aggros that go casual are weak players. If they face a deck that could give them a fight, they lose. I already beat many of them because they went full face and refused to remove trouble in the making on board, why? Because they're dumb and can't do naything else than following "the script". Other scenario is aggro mirror where the one who's smart enough to outplay the opponent will be the favorite, so they lose, why? They are so stupid that they don't realize they need to gain advantage over them before going full face.

That's why they go casual, because even with the easiest and high potential decks, they fail. They are likely to be 5+ ranks above their skill, so when they face resistance, they go punish the "softest" game mode.

I don't like aggro, I hate pirate warrior (even nicknamed it "pig-rate" warrior), but anyone has the right to play whatever they like anywhere they want. When they do that, just prove the low character and skill they have.

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First of all, can't tell a person where to play with their stuff. They earned it, there are no mode restrictions, so they have all the right to do what they want to do with their cards.

But there's the thing, those aggros that go casual are weak players. If they face a deck that could give them a fight, they lose. I already beat many of them because they went full face and refused to remove trouble in the making on board, why? Because they're dumb and can't do naything else than following "the script". Other scenario is aggro mirror where the one who's smart enough to outplay the opponent will be the favorite, so they lose, why? They are so stupid that they don't realize they need to gain advantage over them before going full face.

That's why they go casual, because even with the easiest and high potential decks, they fail. They are likely to be 5+ ranks above their skill, so when they face resistance, they go punish the "softest" game mode.

I don't like aggro, I hate pirate warrior (even nicknamed it "pig-rate" warrior), but anyone has the right to play whatever they like anywhere they want. When they do that, just prove the low character and skill they have.

 Lol you're so arrogant. You probably faced a new player or a bot, this is why he went full face, stop thinking you're a genius and everyone who doesn't play control in casual is an idiot, that makes you the idiot. And really stop thinking you're a superior player because you don't play aggro. Superior players don't trash talk on any archetype.

 

Why would you hate pirate warrior? I have an evil grin on my face every time I get paired with one on my aggro shaman. Last two seasons lost about 5 games to them at the most.

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Just play casual in wild-much less standard decks there

Quote from Loubillion >>

 Lol you're so arrogant. You probably faced a new player or a bot, this is why he went full face, stop thinking you're a genius and everyone who doesn't play control in casual is an idiot, that makes you the idiot. And really stop thinking you're a superior player because you don't play aggro. Superior players don't trash talk on any archetype.

 

What are you testing your deck against? What you expect to face on the ladder? If so,  ether aggro pirates are helping you a lot more than the people playing casual decks. 

Truthfully, no matter what deck i make, I will always run a day or so in casual to get the feel for it.

And quests... If I have a quest in a class that has a strong aggro deck, I play it in casual, get my wins, and go back to my business on the ladder.

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Quote from ruipxPT >>

First of all, can't tell a person where to play with their stuff. They earned it, there are no mode restrictions, so they have all the right to do what they want to do with their cards.

But there's the thing, those aggros that go casual are weak players. If they face a deck that could give them a fight, they lose. I already beat many of them because they went full face and refused to remove trouble in the making on board, why? Because they're dumb and can't do naything else than following "the script". Other scenario is aggro mirror where the one who's smart enough to outplay the opponent will be the favorite, so they lose, why? They are so stupid that they don't realize they need to gain advantage over them before going full face.

That's why they go casual, because even with the easiest and high potential decks, they fail. They are likely to be 5+ ranks above their skill, so when they face resistance, they go punish the "softest" game mode.

I don't like aggro, I hate pirate warrior (even nicknamed it "pig-rate" warrior), but anyone has the right to play whatever they like anywhere they want. When they do that, just prove the low character and skill they have.

 Lol you're so arrogant. You probably faced a new player or a bot, this is why he went full face, stop thinking you're a genius and everyone who doesn't play control in casual is an idiot, that makes you the idiot. And really stop thinking you're a superior player because you don't play aggro. Superior players don't trash talk on any archetype.

 

 Spotted the aggro player.

ruipxPT brought up some good points. He never said he plays control, he could be playing midrange, or combo as well. After all, there is reason to hate pirate warrior as a deck no matter what you play (unless of course, you're part of the unholy few...). 

And he said that the aggro casuals go full face because they're weak players. He never claimed to be superior because he plays control. He even brought up the aggro mirror scenario. Replying with salt to a post without reading it makes you the idiot. 

 That is the most retarded thing i've ever read on this forum.

Also it's funny you talk about salt when you said this an hour ago "They play aggro. Do you think they'd have the brains to figure that out?"

So now we have Reno and if aggro can't win by T5, it's over.  What oh what is an aggro player to do?

1. Call it quits, go play a different game.

2. Win by turn 5 with a hyper-aggro deck.

Reno and his buddy Kazakus are the cause of the pirates.  

Actually I'm ok with them playing tier1 decks in casual cause I use casual to test my decks before going into ladder. Conceded 3 times in a row last time cause I encoutered 3 paladins and who the fuck plays paladins on ladder, I needed to test my control warrior against the aggro shit out there.