I've been playing Secret Pally and Zoo and Reno are crushing me. I'm wondering what cards are good to include in a deck to increase odds vs. these very tough Warlocks?
Though seriously, I think this is the first season I actually dropped under 50% win against any class while doing a rank 17 to 5 grind, and the matchup with under 50% was warlock. My run this season was pretty awful compared to the past few seasons running the same deck though. I don't know if i just played poorly from just focusing too much on the other things I was doing at the time or if the matchup actually got harder.
I think running consecrates would make the zoo matchup not too bad, but consecrate really doesn't seem too useful vs anything aside from zoo, so I don't feel it's worth running.
What's your current version of Secret pally? - I have tried quite a few variations with mixed results, a successful one against Renolock was one that included two Deathlords in it.
Taunt, buff, face was how most match-ups went - most Renolock players only run 1 silence and most try to save it for bigger threats than a deathlord, and by then it's too late. Deathlord helps with them not having such a big card advantage, Aldor anything it pulls from their decks.
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When I looked up "Ninjas" in Thesaurus.com, it said "Ninja's can't be found" Well played Ninjas, well played.
Been playing Face Shaman, good match against secret pal, zoo, and tempo mage. Its so fast.. I think it has a chance against anything no less than 50・50.
What's your current version of Secret pally? - I have tried quite a few variations with mixed results, a successful one against Renolock was one that included two Deathlords in it.
Taunt, buff, face was how most match-ups went - most Renolock players only run 1 silence and most try to save it for bigger threats than a deathlord, and by then it's too late. Deathlord helps with them not having such a big card advantage, Aldor anything it pulls from their decks.
I've been experimenting with different builds looking for something to beat zoo. This is one of them. I'm not super high on the Knife Jugglers, haunted creepers, or even the musters. So, if I move something out it should probably come from that package somewhere.
I could try removing the creepers and Knife Jugglers for a couple of deathlords and Peacekeepers. That is something I have never tried.
After brief testing Deathlord and Redemption was a no-go. I think I need another direction.
I play renolock and i lose if i lose board controll, sylvannas shadowflame and reno are your backup so u need silence, sticky minions and don't go absolute SMOrc or all in. Mabey build up a board and finish him. On the other side you do need to do everything quickly in case Golden Monkey. Renolock loses to huge boards often cause they only have 3 AOE cards and for shadowflame you need toi have a high attack minion on the board. I hope this helps. I'm now a traitor to my own kind :(. Also use decktracker to see what cards he already has played and watch out for a massive OTK that some Renolocks have.
WHY does everyone think the faster you go the better? i just sludgebelcher or healbot or some taunt, then Reno and mabey even youthfull brewmastre and GG. What you really need is like a combo deck or a heavy controll deck or something like zoo. Renolock is about having controll and reno won't fix the boards state. It only fixes health unlike deathwing. Aggro matchups are siriously the easiest for me.
Freeze mage actually has great chances against both of these decks, as long as you hold alextrazza til after he plays reno ( best feeling in the world btw).
Secret pally a card that might help is lay on of hands with renolock. It will give you more steam to keep fightin if you run low.
You need Consecrate to fight back against Zoo. Either that, or you'll need a really strong starting hand.
I don't know what list you're running, but if you really want to I suppose you could also use MC Tech. Don't think its worth it, though, unless you're not running Consecrate.
I've been playing Secret Pally and Zoo and Reno are crushing me. I'm wondering what cards are good to include in a deck to increase odds vs. these very tough Warlocks?
Truesilver does seem to be a good answer for Zoo. Giving you a response to Imp Gang Boss and a Hatched Egg.
Wait, isn't that enough? Those are two huge cards on the Zoo matchup, and Truesilver's usefulness goes much farther than that in other matchups.
It kills Flamewaker. It deals with Shredders. Instantly removes one patron (usually another 2 atk minion can deal with another). Kills Azure Drake. I could go on, but even if you don't need to deal with any of these, it's still 8 dmg packed with 4 health to you. Seriously, why aren't you running it?
Well, I was running 2 Shredder, 2 Keeper, 2 Blessing of Kings, and 2 consecrate. Just seemed like I didn't need another 4 cast card. Took out consecrate to add it.
I've been playing Secret Pally and Zoo and Reno are crushing me. I'm wondering what cards are good to include in a deck to increase odds vs. these very tough Warlocks?
Maybe Truesilver? Ironbeak Owl? MCT? Stampeding Kodo? Unstable Ghoul?
Thanks in advance.
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Go face faster, or don't lose the board.
Though seriously, I think this is the first season I actually dropped under 50% win against any class while doing a rank 17 to 5 grind, and the matchup with under 50% was warlock. My run this season was pretty awful compared to the past few seasons running the same deck though. I don't know if i just played poorly from just focusing too much on the other things I was doing at the time or if the matchup actually got harder.
I think running consecrates would make the zoo matchup not too bad, but consecrate really doesn't seem too useful vs anything aside from zoo, so I don't feel it's worth running.
Play Hunter. Go face and never trade, easy. Keepo
What's your current version of Secret pally? - I have tried quite a few variations with mixed results, a successful one against Renolock was one that included two Deathlords in it.
Taunt, buff, face was how most match-ups went - most Renolock players only run 1 silence and most try to save it for bigger threats than a deathlord, and by then it's too late. Deathlord helps with them not having such a big card advantage, Aldor anything it pulls from their decks.
When I looked up "Ninjas" in Thesaurus.com, it said "Ninja's can't be found" Well played Ninjas, well played.
I play Renolock and you beat them with burst or you have a better long game control deck.
DON'T GIVE HIM ANY ADVICE! It's good thing if he stops with that cancer.
Been playing Face Shaman, good match against secret pal, zoo, and tempo mage. Its so fast.. I think it has a chance against anything no less than 50・50.
Try some Shammy.
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Argent Watchman Argent Squire Frost Giant
Aviana Hogger Snipe Sea Giant
I could try removing the creepers and Knife Jugglers for a couple of deathlords and Peacekeepers. That is something I have never tried.
After brief testing Deathlord and Redemption was a no-go. I think I need another direction.
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Maybe a huge silence package? -2 knife jugglers, -2 haunted creepers +2 owl, +2 spell breakers.
That would be pretty good vs. those Haunted creepers, Imp Gangs, and Nerubian Eggs, and not totally worthless elsewhere?
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Nope, i play Renolock and whenever i play renolock i crush them... 10 or less health, reno+youthfull brewmaster=concede
I play renolock and i lose if i lose board controll, sylvannas shadowflame and reno are your backup so u need silence, sticky minions and don't go absolute SMOrc or all in. Mabey build up a board and finish him. On the other side you do need to do everything quickly in case Golden Monkey. Renolock loses to huge boards often cause they only have 3 AOE cards and for shadowflame you need toi have a high attack minion on the board. I hope this helps. I'm now a traitor to my own kind :(. Also use decktracker to see what cards he already has played and watch out for a massive OTK that some Renolocks have.
WHY does everyone think the faster you go the better? i just sludgebelcher or healbot or some taunt, then Reno and mabey even youthfull brewmastre and GG. What you really need is like a combo deck or a heavy controll deck or something like zoo. Renolock is about having controll and reno won't fix the boards state. It only fixes health unlike deathwing. Aggro matchups are siriously the easiest for me.
Put Nefarian into your deck play it and get Sacrificial Pact wait until he turns himself into Lord Jaraxxus and smite his face with Sacrificial Pact
Freeze mage actually has great chances against both of these decks, as long as you hold alextrazza til after he plays reno ( best feeling in the world btw).
Secret pally a card that might help is lay on of hands with renolock. It will give you more steam to keep fightin if you run low.
You need Consecrate to fight back against Zoo. Either that, or you'll need a really strong starting hand.
I don't know what list you're running, but if you really want to I suppose you could also use MC Tech. Don't think its worth it, though, unless you're not running Consecrate.
Truesilver does seem to be a good answer for Zoo. Giving you a response to Imp Gang Boss and a Hatched Egg.
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Well, I was running 2 Shredder, 2 Keeper, 2 Blessing of Kings, and 2 consecrate. Just seemed like I didn't need another 4 cast card. Took out consecrate to add it.
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I like Ragnaros against Reno. For Zoo, it's down to who has the better opening, and whether you can make your Consecration count.