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... Wow, interesting theme. Lemme just throw out some random ideas off the top of my head:

In Shadowverse, Olivia gives you three 'evolution points', each of which equates to pretty much giving a minion +2/+2 and Rush (which is charge but can't hit heroes). Obelisk is just a recreation of his Yu-Gi-Oh effect.

EDIT: Added PtP. In Shadowverse, you need to cast a total of 30 spells or have 30 of your minions die or some combination of both, and then you play this and it slams your opponent's board and hero for 6 each turn. I'll find better art for Judgement. Mainly worried about how to translate that condition into HS, which has a smaller deck and less minion/spell generation.

OH MY GOSH, YOU'RE NOT DEAD. Annnd you changed your avatar again. XD (But in all seriousness, welcome back! <3)

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• Dark Angel Olivia: Ooooooh. I really like this card! It's a sweet buff card that's essentially a split Icehowl; it also depicts the Evolution mechanic well. It's a really cool Control/Midrange card that can help you immediately attack with your minions to control the board (and not go face...); it's also just a solid buff card or spell-synergy material. This supports a numerous amount of decks, and it gives a strong boost to The Last Kaleidosaur, which is always a good thing in my books. This is your best card IMO. However, this isn't a strong suggestion, but maybe you should make it a 3/3 due to its sheer flexibility.
• Obelisk the Tormentor: Wowsers. That looks like an extremely powerful card, especially in decks that can spawn a lot of tokens like Token Druid. You can essentially just spam minions and continuously wipe out your opponent's board, and your opponent can't do much about it. Thus, I think it's a bit too OP. You can look at it as a Deathwing with a better effect and smaller drawback. The effect is basically a Unwilling Sacrifice on steroids, and a >6 mana effect on a beefy 8/8 is a too potent for my liking.
• Path to Purgatory: 2 Forbidden Rituals just halves the job already. Again, it looks broken as heck in Zoolock, Token Druid, and every other Token deck in Hearthstone. 2 Forbidden Rituals just halves the job already. Put a N'Zoth, the Corruptor into the mix and you practically win the game with a bunch of token-spawning Deathrattles. The Quest Reward seems particularly OP and uninteractive as well. You might as well word this as "Win the game" because your opponent can't play any minions without them being wiped out or weakened to low Health, so your opponent can't really do much. You basically created a slow death here, and that is not fun on the receiving end.

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I've already submitted my card, but what balance changes do you think I need to make to it? (It's in my signature!)

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Well this is my first card design competition, so I hope to make a good first impression.

For this one, I looked to Yugioh since that's the only other TCG I ever played. A card I used to use a lot of back in the day was Relinquished, so I thought how would he translate into Hearthstone?

Relinquished was a Ritual monster, which meant to summon him you needed the Ritual Spell, and then completed the Ritual with Relinquished in your hand. So for Hearthstone, I made the Ritual spell itself into a Quest Spell for Warlock. Here's the original card:

 So, what is Relinquished in Hearthstone form?

Original:

 Relinquished in Yugioh would be a no stat monster that would steal one of your opponent's monsters and turn it into an equip spell, copying that monster's stats. If Relinquished got destroyed, the monster it equipped itself to will be destroyed instead, and it can then equip another monster the next turn and repeat the cycle.

So for Hearthstone, I translated that effect by making it a Battlecry that destroyed any minion. ANY! You could use it as a 1 mana removal, or use it to pop an egg. Then it has a Deathrattle that allows it to come back to your hand whenever it dies. Now while this might sound OP, bear in mind he's a quest reward, so it'll take some turns before he actually comes out. And he can only destroy one minion at a time, so if you flood your board with stickies you'll be fine. This card gives Warlocks removal they desperately need, and who knows, this could also work with Zoo decks as well.

Hiya! Welcome to the Fan Creations Forum! I'm Cogito_Ergo_Sum, a frequent visitor of this place and a winner of a few of these competitions (as denoted by the shiny border around my avatar).

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I like the general idea of a quest about Warlock's "Destroy friendly minion" theme. It would greatly supports an archetype and theme within Warlock, and you can't get enough Zoo! As a bonus, the card imitates the original version without being too unoriginal. However, balance-wise, this card is insanely strong.

Okay, so let's start with the most glaring issue. "Destroy 4 friendly minions" is an extremely easy condition to fulfill, especially in Zoolock with Forbidden Ritual and its many other Token generators. You could easily throw your minions into your opponent's minions, and that would count as "Destroying a friendly minion". (If I attack with my 1/1 into a 6/6, would my 1/1 not be destroyed? If it isn't destroyed...then what would it be?) Either that, or your opponent kills your own minions. You could pretty much word the card as "Quest: Have 4 friendly minions die."

The reward is a bit too powerful as well, even when compared to other quest rewards. A 1 mana Assassinate that constantly returns to your hand is broken. A 1 mana Assassinate that summons a copy of a minion is just OP.

Additionally, "it's" is supposed to be worded as "its". "It's" means "it is"; "Its" is the possessive form of "it".

Essentially, this card is a 1 mana Mind Control that constantly returns to your hand. To acquire this, you need have 4 minions die, which happens in almost every Hearthstone game. Additionally, this works in pretty much any deck. So...yeah, I'm not a fan of this card.

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EDIT: It just occurred to me that you submitted this card. Unfortunately, as stated by the rules, you can't change your submissions once you have submitted it (with the exception of minor balance and flavour changes). What you submit is final. In the future, you may want to wait for a little bit for feedback before you submit the final version of your card.

 Thank you for the feedback. So here's my piece:

Looking at the quest yeah I should've worded it better. The condition is supposed to be destroying the minion outside of just attacking. This means, using battlecries, using spells, and so on. Attacking a minion then it dying would not trigger the quest. I'll ask the mods if I could quickly add a little to the card text to clarify that better.

As for Relinquished being OP, I have to disagree with you there. By the time you actually get this card, your opponent will have a strong board that a 1 mana assassinate/Faceless Shambler isn't gonna do much, and if they don't have that board then they're dead anyway since you'll have a better board then them before you even finished the quest. At the earliest, I see you getting the quest finished by turn 6, and that's if you even drew your minions that destroy your friendly minions, which also have a high mana cost. Plus while it would be good to nuke your own board to finish the quest faster, that'll put you at a disadvantage and give your opponent board control.

But yeah, the only problem I see is the quest itself. If it turns out it's very easy to complete, I'll increase the requirement from 4 to 5.

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I have a new pair of ideas to float out, both based around Aurelia the Warleader from Magic the Gathering. They're not super "sexy" cards, but I'm not really feeling this competition theme to be honest. Maybe I should just submit The Cheese and call it a day...anyway, I digress.

As far as I see it, a Hearthstone version of her ability is, simply put, providing everyone Windfury. I could add additional qualifiers and whatnot to make it more equivalent to the original text, but that would be over-complicating the matter. I traded her keywords for additional stats, but also bumped up her mana costs because AoE Charge and AoE Windfury are super good.

Both iterations are based around a similar tactic to that of Sulfuras/Fire Plume's Heart: taking your time, building your rage so-to-speak before flipping the aggression-switch to "on" and slamming your opponent's face in after you've hit the boiling point. I gave Aurelia to the Warrior because Charge is kinda of his thing so that's fitting, while Windfury is not his thing so it would be interesting to see it available for him in some capacity. Regardless of the version I move forward on, they both align well with the aforementioned mindset behind Quest Warrior: they're (hopefully) too expensive to utilize in aggro decks, which is intended.

...I doubled up on mentioning Charge in the left version to maximize clarity. I could have said "All friendly minions have Charge," but I imagine there would be some out there confused as-to whether or not that included Aurelia herself.

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Hey everybody! I was the one who came up with Underworld Tour Guide a while ago:

What do you guys think? I originally had her at 2 mana, but thought that would be too broken, so I bumped it up to 3. A 2 mana 2/1 that summons a Flame Imp was just Tuskarr Totemic all over again, but a 3 mana card that does the same thing isn't all that threatening these days IMO.

I also considered this as my submission, but it would be far too broken, so I didn't. People who play or played Yu-gi-oh will understand, but this card was ridiculously broken back in its time, so I wanted to replicate that.

• Underworld Tour Guide: I concur with Mewdrops. It should be worded as "1-Cost Demon" when compared to Desert Camel. Speaking of which, this seems a bit too weak when compared to Desert Camel and Mounted Raptor. Plus, there's only 4 1-cost Demons in Hearthstone (Flame Imp, Blood Imp, Malchezaar's Imp, and Voidwalker). Thus, I think you should buff it to a 3 mana 2/2 or 2 mana 1/1. Besides that, it's a fine card for Demonlock/Zoolock.
• Grapha, Dark Dragon Lord: Again, I agree with Mewdrops for the wording ('If you discard this minion, summon it and destroy a random enemy minion'). I feel like it's too "swingy" though. If you manage to discard this early in the game, you get an 8/8 before turn freaking 5 AND destroy an enemy minion. You basically just won the game due to RNG, and I feel like that might be a bit too frustrating to play against. If you don't discard it? You get an 8 mana 8/8. That's a incredibly small drawback for a potentially huge tempo swing.

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Well this is my first card design competition, so I hope to make a good first impression.

For this one, I looked to Yugioh since that's the only other TCG I ever played. A card I used to use a lot of back in the day was Relinquished, so I thought how would he translate into Hearthstone?

Relinquished was a Ritual monster, which meant to summon him you needed the Ritual Spell, and then completed the Ritual with Relinquished in your hand. So for Hearthstone, I made the Ritual spell itself into a Quest Spell for Warlock. Here's the original card:

 So, what is Relinquished in Hearthstone form?

Original:

 Relinquished in Yugioh would be a no stat monster that would steal one of your opponent's monsters and turn it into an equip spell, copying that monster's stats. If Relinquished got destroyed, the monster it equipped itself to will be destroyed instead, and it can then equip another monster the next turn and repeat the cycle.

So for Hearthstone, I translated that effect by making it a Battlecry that destroyed any minion. ANY! You could use it as a 1 mana removal, or use it to pop an egg. Then it has a Deathrattle that allows it to come back to your hand whenever it dies. Now while this might sound OP, bear in mind he's a quest reward, so it'll take some turns before he actually comes out. And he can only destroy one minion at a time, so if you flood your board with stickies you'll be fine. This card gives Warlocks removal they desperately need, and who knows, this could also work with Zoo decks as well.

Hiya! Welcome to the Fan Creations Forum! I'm Cogito_Ergo_Sum, a frequent visitor of this place and a winner of a few of these competitions (as denoted by the shiny border around my avatar).

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I like the general idea of a quest about Warlock's "Destroy friendly minion" theme. It would greatly supports an archetype and theme within Warlock, and you can't get enough Zoo! As a bonus, the card imitates the original version without being too unoriginal. However, balance-wise, this card is insanely strong.

Okay, so let's start with the most glaring issue. "Destroy 4 friendly minions" is an extremely easy condition to fulfill, especially in Zoolock with Forbidden Ritual and its many other Token generators. You could easily throw your minions into your opponent's minions, and that would count as "Destroying a friendly minion". (If I attack with my 1/1 into a 6/6, would my 1/1 not be destroyed? If it isn't destroyed...then what would it be?) Either that, or your opponent kills your own minions. You could pretty much word the card as "Quest: Have 4 friendly minions die."

The reward is a bit too powerful as well, even when compared to other quest rewards. A 1 mana Assassinate that constantly returns to your hand is broken. A 1 mana Assassinate that summons a copy of a minion is just OP.

Additionally, "it's" is supposed to be worded as "its". "It's" means "it is"; "Its" is the possessive form of "it".

Essentially, this card is a 1 mana Mind Control that constantly returns to your hand. To acquire this, you need have 4 minions die, which happens in almost every Hearthstone game. Additionally, this works in pretty much any deck. So...yeah, I'm not a fan of this card.

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EDIT: It just occurred to me that you submitted this card. Unfortunately, as stated by the rules, you can't change your submissions once you have submitted it (with the exception of minor balance and flavour changes). What you submit is final. In the future, you may want to wait for a little bit for feedback before you submit the final version of your card.

 Thank you for the feedback. So here's my piece:

Looking at the quest yeah I should've worded it better. The condition is supposed to be destroying the minion outside of just attacking. This means, using battlecries, using spells, and so on. Attacking a minion then it dying would not trigger the quest. I'll ask the mods if I could quickly add a little to the card text to clarify that better.

As for Relinquished being OP, I have to disagree with you there. By the time you actually get this card, your opponent will have a strong board that a 1 mana assassinate/Faceless Shambler isn't gonna do much, and if they don't have that board then they're dead anyway since you'll have a better board then them before you even finished the quest. At the earliest, I see you getting the quest finished by turn 6, and that's if you even drew your minions that destroy your friendly minions, which also have a high mana cost. Plus while it would be good to nuke your own board to finish the quest faster, that'll put you at a disadvantage and give your opponent board control.

But yeah, the only problem I see is the quest itself. If it turns out it's very easy to complete, I'll increase the requirement from 4 to 5.

Ah, that makes much more sense.

Might I suggest the wording "Quest: Destroy X friendly minions with your cards"? It's a simple way to indicate your intentions. I think you should raise the requirements to 6 though when compared to Open the Waygate. Warlock is well-known for their massive board clears (Twisting Nether, Corrupting Mist, Hellfire, DOOM!), and those spells can easily fulfill the quest in one go. And we haven't even gotten to the numerous sacrificial cards yet (Ravenous Pterrordax, Sanguine Reveler, Void Terror, Shadowflame, Unwilling Sacrifice...I think you get the point.)

In regards to Relinquished, I think you're taking a ONE mana Assassinate pretty lightly. I'm pretty sure that in ANY situation, a 1 mana Assassinate + Faceless Shambler would be good. Even if you only destroy one minion out of four, it's only for just one mana. But let's just presume that this card is balanced. Then we have to realize that we're playing a sacrificial Zoo deck, and that can create some insane combos due to its cheap cost. You could easily go Relinquished > Void Terror > Relinquished > Ravenous Pterrordax > Relinquished, and you basically just destroyed 3 of the enemy minions while developing a strong board. Yikes. Also, almost all Quest rewards cost 5 mana (the only exception is Sulfuras, but it gives you a new 2 mana Hero Power); thus, this severly breaks the Quest Reward's flavour.

 I already updated the card's text. It now reads like this:

I don't wanna raise the requirement for you need to remember how expensive the minion based removals are. Pterrordax is 4 mana on top of a minion already on the board, and Void Terror is 3 mana with minions already on the board. If you opponent is trading (Which seeing as you played the quest turn one, they most likely will) then it'll be difficult to work on the quest past turn 5 . Hence why I made it 4 instead of 5 or 6, because from my calculations you'll most likely not get this quest done until turn 6-9, which by that time your opponent will have solutions to Relinquished. So the quest requirements are gonna stay.

Now you do bring up a good point about the combos itself, and I agree. I have two solutions for possible nerfs:

So one solution is keeping the 1 mana cost, but it'll go to your hand at the end of the turn, which eliminates combo potential. However I actually like the combo potential, so I also increased the cost to 3 mana, so they won't be able to play him as much. Best you'll do is Relinquished > Void Terror > Relinquished. Hey, since he's a Demon it also could lead to people using Sacrificial Pact again.

So those are my nerfs. I'm leaning to the 3 mana one.

@Dr_Scaphandre

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