I actually have a really disgusting feeling in my stomach over how good this card is. And how it is hunter. And how Hunters have such good DR minions already.
It's almost like Blizzard wants to make it impossible to construct a deck with an answer for every potential strategy. So much for V07TR0N or Gharzilla ruining the game.
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We need clarification to know for sure if they minions keep their deathrattles and activate again when they die, because if so, I do believe this card is broken. Just make a deck with undertaker and ALL the good deathrattle minions, don't even bother with beasts not having deathrattle, and the rest of the deck the best hunter spells (maybe animal companion wouldn't be there, and we'd see about bow and traps), and I think that could be pretty good. I don't know if baron rivendare would fit in such deck, and I don't know about nerubian egg since it would be hard to activate it by killing the minion unless you add some enablers to the deck.
"The combinations are endless, and only get more interesting with Baron Rivendare in play . . . combined with Feign Death, your minions trigger their Deathrattles twice!"
These are not two separate sentences. Baron Rivendare is obviously the subject of this sentence. The ellipsis (...) acts as a bridge, like a comma to cause a pause and to imply more, without actually saying it. The second part of the sentence is directly related to the first part, not related to the other combinations written in the post. Also note the half after the ellipsis the first letter is not capitalized, if they were separate subjects it would be in a statement of it's own.
The benefit of this card comes from the fact that not only do you have control of when they activate, but you also have the ability to get a Deathrattle effect while the minion it belongs to is in play. For example, Sneeds Old Shredder, you get the body of the card, while also activating its summoned Deathrattle, while the minion is still alive... thus giving you 2 minions at once, when originally you would have only gotten one after the other died.
I do not see a way Blizzard would make something about equal to Reincarnate, cost the same, while being an AoE spell. It seems to me that once the Deathrattle is triggered its removed from the card. This is just the way I see that they wrote it and is completely based on their posts grammar and structure, and is somewhat open to interpretation due to the cards description being rather vauge. Only a Blue or Brode will be able to clarify for sure.
All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on their dreams with open eyes, to make them possible. - T. E. Lawrence
I can see early game plays of like Undertaker + Coin + Webspinner into Loot Hoarder, into Webspinner + Feign Death. If the opponent had no early game answer, that would lead to 1 draw and 2 extra beasts. Pretty decent value for 2 mana.
I also see this as turn 7 plays. - T6 Savannah, T7 Tundra Rhino + Feign Death. (You can attack with 6/5, 2/2, 2/2, and 2/5 that turn. Perhaps even another 2/2, 2/2 if you suicide Highmane) - Sylvannas + Feign Death, for a better version of the priest death combo.
This card will be nasty in Deathrattle Priest. The only minion with a downside deathrattle commonly used is Zombie Chow but if you have Auchenai on the board, the card can be used for additional burst damage. So much flexibility.
This card will be nasty in Deathrattle Priest. The only minion with a downside deathrattle commonly used is Zombie Chow but if you have Auchenai on the board, the card can be used for additional burst damage. So much flexibility.
considering this is a hunter card, I don't think you can count on playing it on a priest deck that often
This card will be nasty in Deathrattle Priest. The only minion with a downside deathrattle commonly used is Zombie Chow but if you have Auchenai on the board, the card can be used for additional burst damage. So much flexibility.
Hunter card. Not Priest. How do people keep making this mistake in GvG? It's a really basic color coding system to identify class cards.
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"The combinations are endless, and only get more interesting with Baron Rivendare in play . . . combined with Feign Death, your minions trigger their Deathrattles twice!"
These are not two separate sentences. Baron Rivendare is obviously the subject of this sentence. The ellipsis (...) acts as a bridge, like a comma to cause a pause and to imply more, without actually saying it. The second part of the sentence is directly related to the first part, not related to the other combinations written in the post. Also note the half after the ellipsis the first letter is not capitalized, if they were separate subjects it would be in a statement of it's own.
The benefit of this card comes from the fact that not only do you have control of when they activate, but you also have the ability to get a Deathrattle effect while the minion it belongs to is in play. For example, Sneeds Old Shredder, you get the body of the card, while also activating its summoned Deathrattle, while the minion is still alive... thus giving you 2 minions at once, when originally you would have only gotten one after the other died.
I do not see a way Blizzard would make something about equal to Reincarnate, cost the same, while being an AoE spell. It seems to me that once the Deathrattle is triggered its removed from the card. This is just the way I see that they wrote it and is completely, at this point, open to interpretation. Only a Blue or Brode will be able to clarify for sure.
I don't get how people are still confused... Just like every card ever.. this card does what it says, nothing more or less. The Deathrattle effect is not removed, please stop even considering that. The balance of the card is a different discussion, but it doesnt not just break the rules of HS and forget to mention something it does..
This card will be nasty in Deathrattle Priest. The only minion with a downside deathrattle commonly used is Zombie Chow but if you have Auchenai on the board, the card can be used for additional burst damage. So much flexibility.
As if deathrattle hunter wasn't already a thing. This is going to be a horror to play against, and I doubt the new anti-deathrattle cards will do much to mitigate it.
I agree with everyone that this card is way better than Reincarnate. That said though, it is a lot less versatile, since reincarnate can also be used to:
Heal minions back to full.
Remove debuffs like Peacekeeper/Humility.
Remove buffs from minions like vanCleef, undertaker or something taunted up by Argus.
Allow charge minions to attack twice.
Activate non-deathrattle death effects like Kel'Thuzad resurrecting himself.
Although I agree Feign Death is superior, it doesn't seem unreasonable that Blizzard budgeted it the same, considering its decreased flexibility.
I agree with everyone that this card is way better than Reincarnate. That said though, it is a lot less versatile, since reincarnate can also be used to:
Heal minions back to full.
Remove debuffs like Peacekeeper/Humility.
Remove buffs from minions like vanCleef, undertaker or something taunted up by Argus.
Allow charge minions to attack twice.
Activate non-deathrattle death effects like Kel'Thuzad resurrecting himself.
Although I agree Feign Death is superior, it doesn't seem unreasonable that Blizzard budgeted it the same, considering its decreased flexibility.
What planet are you on lol? I cannot recall a SINGLE situation where reincarnate was used in any of the bullet points you made lol. This hunter card is basically Baron Rivendare for 2 mana. Simple as that. Plus it's instant and doesn't rely on a minion surviving.
Seriously... what the f... why do they keep giving op cards to hunters? Why does everythings hunter seem to cost 2 less mana than any other class cards? I can't believe it...
If you think this card is worth 4 mana...well, I can't strictly say you're wrong, but I highly doubt it.
Considering Shaman, re. Reincarnate and the new epic card, Ancestral Call, Feign Death is a bit of a kick in the goolies.
Reincarnate is only a solid gain late game and that's normally awkward, FD potentially a giant t3/4 swing. In late game it might be seriously brutal (all this while not even considering the new GvG DRs). FD has extreme versatility with almost any board in a current DR hunter deck.
Ancestral Call, an epic, is again awkward, depending on 3 factors for the ideal play; a minion in hand/no low cost minion in hand/decent removal in hand (playing rush likely means you're not in a position to play AC on t4 as containment is priority).
FD potentially offers card advantage, control, damage, tempo almost every facet of influence in the game from multiple sources in a single turn and would regularly succeed in achieving at least two advances.
The huge advantage to Reincarnate is being able to attack also. And, the BRD synergy; Reincarnating LootH/HarvesG etc seemed meh even with BRD, but this makes it a 1 turn super value move t6 with only a mediocre board.
I really do like it, it's an amazing card, but comparatively it's gob smacking. I can only hope that further releases are as exciting as this ups the power at epic big time. I mean, as a legendary spell I would say almost reasonable, not quite, but nearly there. It puts all other epic spells floundering in the gutter.
Hmm, ok qualifying last point, there are some v good epic spells. but this works in almost every speed of hunter deck, it's just really good, AND really fun. Pyroblast/brawl/forceON, all great. Based on pure power, these are perhaps superior, yet in the context of hunter, this is gargantuan.
"Reincarnating LootH/HarvesG etc seemed meh even with BRD, but this makes it a 1 turn super value move t6 with only a mediocre board."
Thats not even that valuable though, is it? It is essentially a 2 mana 2/1 with draw a card, so it is a Novice Engineer with one more attack. That doesn't seem particularly strong, even if it isn't bad either.
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I actually have a really disgusting feeling in my stomach over how good this card is. And how it is hunter. And how Hunters have such good DR minions already.
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Priest even use [card]Sylvanas Windrunner[/card] + Shadow Word: Death at pro level.
Now [card]Sylvanas Windrunner[/card] + Feign Death cost less does same stealing effect and keep your [card]Sylvanas Windrunner[/card] alive.
As Ben Brode would say, the next Mad Range Hunter!
It's almost like Blizzard wants to make it impossible to construct a deck with an answer for every potential strategy. So much for V07TR0N or Gharzilla ruining the game.
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We need clarification to know for sure if they minions keep their deathrattles and activate again when they die, because if so, I do believe this card is broken. Just make a deck with undertaker and ALL the good deathrattle minions, don't even bother with beasts not having deathrattle, and the rest of the deck the best hunter spells (maybe animal companion wouldn't be there, and we'd see about bow and traps), and I think that could be pretty good. I don't know if baron rivendare would fit in such deck, and I don't know about nerubian egg since it would be hard to activate it by killing the minion unless you add some enablers to the deck.
"The combinations are endless, and only get more interesting with Baron Rivendare in play . . . combined with Feign Death, your minions trigger their Deathrattles twice!"
These are not two separate sentences. Baron Rivendare is obviously the subject of this sentence. The ellipsis (...) acts as a bridge, like a comma to cause a pause and to imply more, without actually saying it. The second part of the sentence is directly related to the first part, not related to the other combinations written in the post. Also note the half after the ellipsis the first letter is not capitalized, if they were separate subjects it would be in a statement of it's own.
The benefit of this card comes from the fact that not only do you have control of when they activate, but you also have the ability to get a Deathrattle effect while the minion it belongs to is in play. For example, Sneeds Old Shredder, you get the body of the card, while also activating its summoned Deathrattle, while the minion is still alive... thus giving you 2 minions at once, when originally you would have only gotten one after the other died.
I do not see a way Blizzard would make something about equal to Reincarnate, cost the same, while being an AoE spell. It seems to me that once the Deathrattle is triggered its removed from the card. This is just the way I see that they wrote it and is completely based on their posts grammar and structure, and is somewhat open to interpretation due to the cards description being rather vauge. Only a Blue or Brode will be able to clarify for sure.
All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on their dreams with open eyes, to make them possible. - T. E. Lawrence
I think this card is pretty good.
I can see early game plays of like Undertaker + Coin + Webspinner into Loot Hoarder, into Webspinner + Feign Death. If the opponent had no early game answer, that would lead to 1 draw and 2 extra beasts. Pretty decent value for 2 mana.
I also see this as turn 7 plays.
- T6 Savannah, T7 Tundra Rhino + Feign Death. (You can attack with 6/5, 2/2, 2/2, and 2/5 that turn. Perhaps even another 2/2, 2/2 if you suicide Highmane)
- Sylvannas + Feign Death, for a better version of the priest death combo.
This card will be nasty in Deathrattle Priest. The only minion with a downside deathrattle commonly used is Zombie Chow but if you have Auchenai on the board, the card can be used for additional burst damage. So much flexibility.
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considering this is a hunter card, I don't think you can count on playing it on a priest deck that often
Hunter card. Not Priest. How do people keep making this mistake in GvG? It's a really basic color coding system to identify class cards.
I don't get how people are still confused... Just like every card ever.. this card does what it says, nothing more or less. The Deathrattle effect is not removed, please stop even considering that. The balance of the card is a different discussion, but it doesnt not just break the rules of HS and forget to mention something it does..
What?!.. It's a hunter card..
So, I have to assume that Reincarnate is Broken?
Best card I've seen so far in this expanse. Holy hell. My mind is swimming at the possibilities.
Low cost, doesn't trigger opponent's deathrattles (no drawback)....oh my, oh my. I want to crawl in bed with this card.
As if deathrattle hunter wasn't already a thing. This is going to be a horror to play against, and I doubt the new anti-deathrattle cards will do much to mitigate it.
Huh, I guess Blizzard is making up for lost card advantage in mass Reincarnate, triggering any 2 Death Rattles is pretty good value ... yeesh.
Feugen. Stalagg. Jesus why??
I agree with everyone that this card is way better than Reincarnate. That said though, it is a lot less versatile, since reincarnate can also be used to:
Although I agree Feign Death is superior, it doesn't seem unreasonable that Blizzard budgeted it the same, considering its decreased flexibility.
What planet are you on lol? I cannot recall a SINGLE situation where reincarnate was used in any of the bullet points you made lol. This hunter card is basically Baron Rivendare for 2 mana. Simple as that. Plus it's instant and doesn't rely on a minion surviving.
If you think this card is worth 4 mana...well, I can't strictly say you're wrong, but I highly doubt it.
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Considering Shaman, re. Reincarnate and the new epic card, Ancestral Call, Feign Death is a bit of a kick in the goolies.
Reincarnate is only a solid gain late game and that's normally awkward, FD potentially a giant t3/4 swing. In late game it might be seriously brutal (all this while not even considering the new GvG DRs). FD has extreme versatility with almost any board in a current DR hunter deck.
Ancestral Call, an epic, is again awkward, depending on 3 factors for the ideal play; a minion in hand/no low cost minion in hand/decent removal in hand (playing rush likely means you're not in a position to play AC on t4 as containment is priority).
FD potentially offers card advantage, control, damage, tempo almost every facet of influence in the game from multiple sources in a single turn and would regularly succeed in achieving at least two advances.
The huge advantage to Reincarnate is being able to attack also. And, the BRD synergy; Reincarnating LootH/HarvesG etc seemed meh even with BRD, but this makes it a 1 turn super value move t6 with only a mediocre board.
I really do like it, it's an amazing card, but comparatively it's gob smacking. I can only hope that further releases are as exciting as this ups the power at epic big time. I mean, as a legendary spell I would say almost reasonable, not quite, but nearly there. It puts all other epic spells floundering in the gutter.
Hmm, ok qualifying last point, there are some v good epic spells. but this works in almost every speed of hunter deck, it's just really good, AND really fun. Pyroblast/brawl/forceON, all great. Based on pure power, these are perhaps superior, yet in the context of hunter, this is gargantuan.
"Reincarnating LootH/HarvesG etc seemed meh even with BRD, but this makes it a 1 turn super value move t6 with only a mediocre board."
Thats not even that valuable though, is it? It is essentially a 2 mana 2/1 with draw a card, so it is a Novice Engineer with one more attack. That doesn't seem particularly strong, even if it isn't bad either.