[WW] LEGEND ODD Rogue (65% WR) Updated
- Last updated Jun 25, 2018 (Spiteful Nerf)
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Wild
- 26 Minions
- 4 Spells
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Odd Rogue
- Crafting Cost: 8320
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 5/23/2018 (Spiteful Nerf)
- Reinan23
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Battle Tag:
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Total Deck Rating
1750
I climbed with only this deck today post-nerf (May 23th) from Rank 4 to Legend with 65% winrate.
Proof and Stats:
Why Nightmare Amalgam ? Because the +1 HP is a huge deal against some popular board clears right now like Duskbreaker and Hellfire also it help to activate Blazecaller .
Why Plague Scientist ? I want have better chances to deal with early Mountain Giant against Even Warlock and the card has very decent synergy with Southsea Deckhand or Argent Squire for example , although Ironbeak Owl is way more effective play against Doomsayer (especially behind Taunt minion) , Twilight Drake and some taunts like Hooked Reaver etc since you dont need to combo it or have a board to get the effect. I believe Plague Scientist is core in the deck after the nerfs so if you still want play Ironbeak Owl better cut something else for that.
Why Captain Greenskin ? Because he has nice synergy with the upgrade dagger and Deadly Poison and it is often a better play than Cobalt Scalebane in my experience, Against Psychic Scream and Volcano for example.
After make those changes it leads me to a very decent winstreak and i got Legend pretty quickly does not mean it's the most optimal list but it worked for me mainly because of the reasons i mentioned above.
Feel free to comment or upvote if you enjoy it, GL HF.
Most lists run Cobalt Scalebane .
I'd say play with Ironbeak Owl or Blink Fox , but choose what you feel is best suited for what you're facing most.
Why do you run Nightmare Amalgam? There's no internal synergy and if you just want a vanilla 3 mana 3/4 aren't there better choices?
For example Blackwald Pixie. I understand that you will never want to refresh the hero power BUT if your opponent somehow techs dragonslayer/hungry crab they be able to kill the Amalgam but not the Pixie. There's also the Tanglefur Mystic which gives each player a 2 mana minion. It might be bad i'm not sure, but it could also give this deck a little bit of refill while being rather useless to your opponent. I just don't really see the upside of Amalgam.
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It's not that hard to understand, +1 HP is a huge deal especially against Duskbreaker and Hellfire the ladder is flooded by Priests and Even Warlock that's the main point to use Nightmare Amalgam , it's just better than Blink Fox for now imho.
Tanglefur Mystic is bad even in arena his effect is a downside most of the time, the only situation i can imagine this card being really good is when your opponent have 9 cards on hand and you play it to mill him which is quite unlikely, Dragonslayer / Hungry Crab really? Who plays those cards... Murloc Paladin is pretty much dead as i expected and a tech card just to deal with Dragons is not good enough for Constructed.
feel free to ask if you have any more questions...
I think you're misunderstanding his point.
Nightmare Amalgam is a 3/4, and the effect associated with the card doesn't benefit this deck at all. The card is essentially just a 3/4 body.
So replacing Nightmare Amalgam with a card like Blackwald Pixie has no downside, as they both serve as 3/4 bodies.
Why i misunderstand his point? Honestly, I understood very well what he meant and answer what is my opinion about the cards he mentioned, the thing here is the BODY not the effect , that's about it.
Um sorry... You are misunderstanding my point. I never said I wanted to run Blink Fox and the two example minions I asked about have the exact same BODY as the Nightmare Amalgam. I asked whether Blackwald Pixie/Tanglefur would be better. Sure Tanglefur is probably crap but I'm sure, I just wondered whether it would be good and you replied thanks btw :D. Tanglefur, Blackwald Pixie and Nightmare Amalgam have the same stats. Like what Aphexa said, I just don't see why Blackwald Pixie is ever worse than Nightmare Amalgam.
Since all you want is the stat line, they're both 3 mana 3/4 minions.
Maybe some random person techs hungry crabs or dragon slayers, I don't know? Even if it's 1 in 10000 it's still possible. You're never ever going to use the "all" tag on the Nightmare Amalgam since the deck has no random card generation or synergy. You are also basically never going to use the battlecry from Blackwald Pixie because it's basically useless...
So to this deck, one of them is a 3 mana 3/4 no text and the other one is a 3 mana 3/4 with the "all" tag. Since you NEVER benefit from the "all" tag but occasionally in maybe 1 in 10000 games you face someone with a tech card, isn't it just strictly better to run Blackwald Pixie. It's also cheaper for the budget players who might want to try this deck out but are missing the Amalgam.
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Dude come on... read your comment again, "Why do you run Nightmare Amalgam?" I answer to you that is because of the body,ok? "There's no internal synergy and if you just want a vanilla 3 mana 3/4 aren't there better choices?" Again, it's because of the body not because of the effect and the cards you said are superfulous and worst, sure you can use Pixie for a budget option but this is not what really matters here this is not a budget deck ffs no one plays dragonslayer/ hungry crab.
I guess I didn't phrase my initial comment correctly? Either way you still ignored 2/3s of the initial comment and answered only the first bit. Again. How is Blackwald Pixie EVER WORSE than Nightmare Amalgam?
I'll re-type my comment: "There's no internal synergy and if you just want a vanilla 3 mana 3/4 aren't there better choices?"
I know it's for the body, I never questioned running a 3 mana 3/4. That's why the two replacements I asked about had the EXACT SAME BODY. What I'm asking about is that aren't there better choices for a 3 mana 3/4? You never answered the question. I gave you a reason as to why Nightmare Amalgam *MIGHT* be bad in some extremely fringe circumstances. I never said people played crabs or dragonslayers on ladder, I just said that WHAT IF you encounter one.
Here's a simple comparison:
Nightmare Amalgam: 3 mana 3/4 dies to random crap that is rarely encountered but could be played.
Blackwald Pixie: 3 mana 3/4
According to HSReplays, there were 8500 crabs played in various ranks/casual since the nerfs so that's not actually that little just saying. You never gave any reason as to why Blackwald Pixie is not as good and you just keep saying it's for the body. THEY HAVE THE SAME BODY. I'm saying is Blackwald Pixie is *STRICTLY BETTER* than Nightmare Amalgam because Blackwald Pixie is literally just a 3 mana 3/4 whereas Nightmare Amalgam *CAN* be destroyed by crabs.
Lol this is so dumb , seriously your comment is redundant and makes no sense.
So answer the damn question about why Nightmare Amalgam over Blackwald Pixie. You never gave a god damn answer.
Because i have Nightmare Amalgam and dont have Pixie this is obvious dude, holy shit... i have craft it before.
and the body of a nightmare amalgam is the exact same as the body of a blackwald pixie, how is this confusing.
Yeaaa!!! I got 6 concede games with this deck, nicely, a real big shit
Seriously that you made an account just for that? Learn to play dude lol Odd Rogue is one of the best decks for ladder right now.
Wait... didn't you get Legend with that Tempo deck you made at the start of the expansion? *thinks*
Yes, i got it last season with Keleseth Tempo Rogue, What's the point of your comment just being a jerk? I play with all different kinda of Rogue decks. Give me a break Jaturna you are unworthy.
I played only against Even Warlock ,thats one of the reasons i run Plague Scientist over Ironbeak Owl to deal with the early giants more consistently.
I very much dislike Marsh Drake that 2/1 he summons for the opponent is a huge drawback imo.
I think it's ok I mean if you have a dagger up and remove the minion, you then have a 5/4 on the board which is pretty damm solid. Or am I thinking the dagger wastes to much resources.
This was my setup before I looked at your deck :) I will have to make some adjustments me thinks, Was a pretty basic layout you have double vilespine to remove minions, Double owl to silence. Although I pretty much climbed to rank 10 and got stuck :)
Haven't really played with Plague scientist, Or Nightmare wouldn't know what cards to drop for them to make adjustments. Thank you for the help Reinan appreciate it.
# 2x (1) Argent Squire
# 2x (1) Cold Blood
# 2x (1) Deadly Poison
# 2x (1) Dire Mole
# 2x (1) Fire Fly
# 1x (1) Glacial Shard
# 2x (1) Southsea Deckhand
# 2x (3) Hench-Clan Thug
# 2x (3) Ironbeak Owl
# 2x (3) SI:7 Agent
# 2x (3) Tar Creeper
# 2x (3) Vicious Fledgling
# 1x (5) Captain Greenskin
# 1x (5) Cobalt Scalebane
# 1x (5) Fungalmancer
# 1x (5) Leeroy Jenkins
# 2x (5) Vilespine Slayer
# 1x (9) Baku the Mooneater