While you evaluate cards this upcoming spoiler season, just remember that how a card looks and how a card plays are usually totally different. It's pretty easy to tell when something's crap (Backstreet Leper, for instance), but you shouldn't be too quick to dismiss things, especially prior to the whole set coming out.
Jade Idol wasn't going to breka the game. It was supposed to be incredibly powerful and an autoinclude. It has succeeded in doing just that. Who the #$*(# thought patches was going to be bad (well me but I didn't evaluate it publicly :P)?
My point, the folks who evaluate cards nowadays have been doing much better in their estimates. A pirates meta was feared the moment patches and small time showed up and people cringed over what jade would do to slow decks. Kazakas turned out as powerful as people thought and the era of Reno decks turned out to be as advertised. No one gets everything right, but I didn't really catch any Dr. Boom styled mistakes this time.
Technically there was/wasnot in One Night with Warden. The card itself is a nightmare waiting ot happen. People interpreted the card correctly. What they didn't do is analyse the rest of beast druid's deck and realize it's a deck that's totally reliant on a 2 card combo with utter crap for Tempo, typicall druid-styled horrible removal, and no reliable card draw.
And regarding Challenger, the reverse ended up true. The card itself is meh. Go look at it now, unnerfed today and see for yourself. Whta powered it was the insane deck. As some ha dput it, it wasn't Dr 6 that won games. It wasn Dr 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 all in sequence.
After BRM, it was really less about determining the value of cards in a vaccum and more about analysing how decks and metas would end up. If we had noted that Minibot, Shredder, Chow and the rest was creating a powerful paladin deck that was just lacking a build around card, we would've seen what Challenge would've done.
(note that they've gotten better, which is why many are wary of the day Priest ever gets a good reliable early game)
consider 2 arcane golems instead of second-rate bruiser and malchezaar, especially since you run no draw
since draw is a problem you might want to add 2 arcane intellects instead of blizzard and maybe the curator
if you have the cards, you could add a combo between summoning stone and thaurissan, to execute this just discount as many spells as possible + stone and then just play the stone + as many spells as you want, this is especially cool with firelands portal, swap etheral conjurer and a copy of potion of polymorph for it
since youre already running only a few duplicates, you could consider to turn your deck into a reno spell secret mage sort of deck, with reno jackson and kazakus. Idk if you would run inkmaster solia with that deck doe probs yes doe
also try to put a volcanic potion or two for early aoe
swap another etheral arcanist and an avian watcher for arcane armorsmith and a vaporize
but tbh secret mage isnt really competive atm, so you shouldnt be expecting too much of it
i tried a reno version of it and it crushes control, due to extreme value
there are like 2 control decks that are tier 1 (reno mage & renolock)
1 combo deck that is one of the harder decks to play (miracle rouge)
1 mid range deck (mid range shaman, 3 if you count dragon priest and dragon warrior, even doe i dont consider them t1)
and 2 aggro decks (pirate warrior & aggro shaman)
the meta is one of the most diverse ive ever played (played since gvg/naxxaramas)
we dont have one deck that is ruling them all like secret paladin or patron warrior or undertaker hunter, even pirate warrior and midrange shaman arent that broken
if you want control, just play reno mage or renolock, or, as a t2 deck, control warrior
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i dont really liked undercity huckster tbh, since it can fuck up your nzoths
might switch thalnos for mimic pod tho, good idea
yea ill probs have to fit in evis somehow
thx for the changes
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mostly general hate on aggro and whining about tier 1 decks
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i predict secret mage, maybe with reno package
it can snowball hard af if you dont have removal at the right time and has amazing lategame with the reno package and medivh and stuff
for that wild class probs priest especially nzoth but eh idk
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consider 2 arcane golems instead of second-rate bruiser and malchezaar, especially since you run no draw
since draw is a problem you might want to add 2 arcane intellects instead of blizzard and maybe the curator
if you have the cards, you could add a combo between summoning stone and thaurissan, to execute this just discount as many spells as possible + stone and then just play the stone + as many spells as you want, this is especially cool with firelands portal, swap etheral conjurer and a copy of potion of polymorph for it
since youre already running only a few duplicates, you could consider to turn your deck into a reno spell secret mage sort of deck, with reno jackson and kazakus. Idk if you would run inkmaster solia with that deck doe probs yes doe
also try to put a volcanic potion or two for early aoe
swap another etheral arcanist and an avian watcher for arcane armorsmith and a vaporize
but tbh secret mage isnt really competive atm, so you shouldnt be expecting too much of it
i tried a reno version of it and it crushes control, due to extreme value
this is the decklist of that one
like i said, i wouldnt really try the deck type on ladder, since it isnt really good atm
edit: forgot to mention its wild
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antony is really good in reno mage, since his burst can close out games against control decks
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That moment when worgen ttk works and you kill a pirate warrior on turn 5
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Imo weapons should be able to attack the turn theyre played
Maybe change the weapons to attack minions only
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reno secret mage 4 life
ill just try to get as far sa possible
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its still 800 dust
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i use cryomancer, the 0 mana freeze spell and inkmaster in reno mage at times
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instant win against freeze mage, patron warrior, miracle rouge, heck basically against every combo deck
what would maly druid do without malygos and empereor?
or freeze mage without alex
i think this would be bad for the game
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pls
there are like 2 control decks that are tier 1 (reno mage & renolock)
1 combo deck that is one of the harder decks to play (miracle rouge)
1 mid range deck (mid range shaman, 3 if you count dragon priest and dragon warrior, even doe i dont consider them t1)
and 2 aggro decks (pirate warrior & aggro shaman)
the meta is one of the most diverse ive ever played (played since gvg/naxxaramas)
we dont have one deck that is ruling them all like secret paladin or patron warrior or undertaker hunter, even pirate warrior and midrange shaman arent that broken
if you want control, just play reno mage or renolock, or, as a t2 deck, control warrior
(yes i got triggered)
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control warrior