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"Even with pirate" go home and cry there lame  kid.

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"Even with pirate" go home and cry there lame  kid.

 I've been playing this deck Rank 7 on ladder and it destroys Jade Druid, especially with the Skulking Geist tech option. Check it out : )

http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/916700-razazakusthun-meta-breaker

Druid is fine guys. There is no need to complain.

Just uninstall the game like i did today and suddenly druid is no longer problematic.

Second way to balance druid is to wait until Blizzard will confess they fucked up but uninstalling HS is just way faster and less painful.

Damn, i am so glad that i didnt spend a single penny on this game since Mean Streets...

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90% of my games are now Murloc Paladin, Jade Druid, or Pirate Warrior.   

It's demoralizing and boring.

I refuse to play one of these decks. Whenever I beat one, I hope an angel gets its wings.

 A conspiracy theorist might claim they make a broken deck every meta so new players will spend money/gold/dust to build the 'easy win' option.  When the gravy train slows down, they then address the meta with a fix that established players lap up like a starving dog, only to repeat the process again in a few months.  When was the last time an expansion didn't feature a 'broken' deck?

Also, Jesus Hearthpwn, fix your damned site - having to refresh in hopes of the post going through is beyond lame.

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Druid is fine guys. There is no need to complain.

Just uninstall the game like i did today and suddenly druid is no longer problematic.

Second way to balance druid is to wait until Blizzard will confess they fucked up but uninstalling HS is just way faster and less painful.

Damn, i am so glad that i didnt spend a single penny on this game since Mean Streets...

Jade druid is fine... ( I don't have that deck by my self, cuz don't have DK druid & Ultimate infastatio ) 

I beat like 80% of time Jade druid with my Miracle Rogue , and like 50% with Handlock 

5 loses in a row at rank 3 5 stars, nice fucking luck

My problem with Jade Druid, Pirate Warrior, Mid Sham, Undertaker hunter metas and their ilk is that they stifle any deck creativity. 

I am genuinely curious when Dean Ayala or BB says things to the effect of "Hunter in Ungoro actually had the highest winrate deck". There is never any further context to those statements which I presume to mean "in the rank 25-20 meta" or with a sample size of 20 games (kappa) since that was absolutely not what was seen at all in ungoro meta at any level of ladder I experienced or watched for 3 months. To me it's as asinine as stating "by the way there was an awesome warlock deck in ungoro and everyone missed it" or more recently "play meat wagon for fun....". Just find these statements hard to take seriously.

Now onto the current meta and jades. UI SP and Idol are the culprits. You can go back on hearthpwn in MSG and everyone railed against the design of Jade Idol its just a pure garbage design (regardless of impact in metas) and there are a million ways to make it actually fair. UI is a joke in a ramp class full stop. SP is another gap card that allows the deck to bridge . 

These are the devs that saw tar creeper put in aggro druid and put in  a 1/6 that grows and assumed it was a ctrl card? I mean come on.

I digress...tired of queing into the same deck 6/10 games and then the other 4 are PW or Murlocpal. Time for wild or break!

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I am genuinely curious when Dean Ayala or BB says things to the effect of "Hunter in Ungoro actually had the highest winrate deck". There is never any further context to those statements which I presume to mean "in the rank 25-20 meta" or with a sample size of 20 games (kappa) since that was absolutely not what was seen at all in ungoro meta at any level of ladder I experienced or watched for 3 months. To me it's as asinine as stating "by the way there was an awesome warlock deck in ungoro and everyone missed it" or more recently "play meat wagon for fun....". Just find these statements hard to take seriously.

Quote from Iplaywhite >>

My problem with Jade Druid, Pirate Warrior, Mid Sham, Undertaker hunter metas and their ilk is that they stifle any deck creativity. 

I am genuinely curious when Dean Ayala or BB says things to the effect of "Hunter in Ungoro actually had the highest winrate deck". There is never any further context to those statements which I presume to mean "in the rank 25-20 meta" or with a sample size of 20 games (kappa) since that was absolutely not what was seen at all in ungoro meta at any level of ladder I experienced or watched for 3 months. To me it's as asinine as stating "by the way there was an awesome warlock deck in ungoro and everyone missed it" or more recently "play meat wagon for fun....". Just find these statements hard to take seriously.

Now onto the current meta and jades. UI SP and Idol are the culprits. You can go back on hearthpwn in MSG and everyone railed against the design of Jade Idol its just a pure garbage design (regardless of impact in metas) and there are a million ways to make it actually fair. UI is a joke in a ramp class full stop. SP is another gap card that allows the deck to bridge . 

These are the devs that saw tar creeper put in aggro druid and put in  a 1/6 that grows and assumed it was a ctrl card? I mean come on.

I digress...tired of queing into the same deck 6/10 games and then the other 4 are PW or Murlocpal. Time for wild or break!

Agreed 100%. I've been running my Aggro paladin and just destroying druids, big priests, mages, etc. shot from (wild) 20 to 13 undefeated 

The problem with this game is every expansion we get 135+ new cards and only maybe 20 of those are viable at all, maybe less.  Those cards just get added to already powerful decks to make them even stronger and then that's all people end up playing.  They really need to learn to make all the cards viable or at least 60% of them so that maybe there will be a bit more variety.  Earlier today I played about 10 games, yeah I don't have much time to play, and probably 7 of those games were against a druid deck of some kind.  If Blizzard would learn to make all cards for every class viable, maybe we wouldn't have this problem.

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Quote from Iplaywhite >>

My problem with Jade Druid, Pirate Warrior, Mid Sham, Undertaker hunter metas and their ilk is that they stifle any deck creativity. 

I am genuinely curious when Dean Ayala or BB says things to the effect of "Hunter in Ungoro actually had the highest winrate deck". There is never any further context to those statements which I presume to mean "in the rank 25-20 meta" or with a sample size of 20 games (kappa) since that was absolutely not what was seen at all in ungoro meta at any level of ladder I experienced or watched for 3 months. To me it's as asinine as stating "by the way there was an awesome warlock deck in ungoro and everyone missed it" or more recently "play meat wagon for fun....". Just find these statements hard to take seriously.

Now onto the current meta and jades. UI SP and Idol are the culprits. You can go back on hearthpwn in MSG and everyone railed against the design of Jade Idol its just a pure garbage design (regardless of impact in metas) and there are a million ways to make it actually fair. UI is a joke in a ramp class full stop. SP is another gap card that allows the deck to bridge . 

These are the devs that saw tar creeper put in aggro druid and put in  a 1/6 that grows and assumed it was a ctrl card? I mean come on.

I digress...tired of queing into the same deck 6/10 games and then the other 4 are PW or Murlocpal. Time for wild or break!

You're in for a surprise, mate.

Thanks for the reply!

Oh I totally understand it conceptually and from a broader company perspective, I just disagree with these types of public statements because as you indicate "we" are the the ones most likely to pay attention to them and then in turn complain more as a self fulfilling feedback loop of sorts.

Fully recognize the value and necessity of the player base as a whole; would just rather not be patronized I suppose.

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Quote from Iplaywhite >>

My problem with Jade Druid, Pirate Warrior, Mid Sham, Undertaker hunter metas and their ilk is that they stifle any deck creativity. 

I am genuinely curious when Dean Ayala or BB says things to the effect of "Hunter in Ungoro actually had the highest winrate deck". There is never any further context to those statements which I presume to mean "in the rank 25-20 meta" or with a sample size of 20 games (kappa) since that was absolutely not what was seen at all in ungoro meta at any level of ladder I experienced or watched for 3 months. To me it's as asinine as stating "by the way there was an awesome warlock deck in ungoro and everyone missed it" or more recently "play meat wagon for fun....". Just find these statements hard to take seriously.

Now onto the current meta and jades. UI SP and Idol are the culprits. You can go back on hearthpwn in MSG and everyone railed against the design of Jade Idol its just a pure garbage design (regardless of impact in metas) and there are a million ways to make it actually fair. UI is a joke in a ramp class full stop. SP is another gap card that allows the deck to bridge . 

These are the devs that saw tar creeper put in aggro druid and put in  a 1/6 that grows and assumed it was a ctrl card? I mean come on.

I digress...tired of queing into the same deck 6/10 games and then the other 4 are PW or Murlocpal. Time for wild or break!

You're in for a surprise, mate.

 This ^ in Wild it's exactly the same 6/10 games are Jade Druid or Egg/Aggro Druid then the others are Renolock or Secret Pally. Can't tell which meta is worse tbh they're both in a pretty bad spot.

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Quote from Darkis >>

Quote from Iplaywhite >>

My problem with Jade Druid, Pirate Warrior, Mid Sham, Undertaker hunter metas and their ilk is that they stifle any deck creativity. 

I am genuinely curious when Dean Ayala or BB says things to the effect of "Hunter in Ungoro actually had the highest winrate deck". There is never any further context to those statements which I presume to mean "in the rank 25-20 meta" or with a sample size of 20 games (kappa) since that was absolutely not what was seen at all in ungoro meta at any level of ladder I experienced or watched for 3 months. To me it's as asinine as stating "by the way there was an awesome warlock deck in ungoro and everyone missed it" or more recently "play meat wagon for fun....". Just find these statements hard to take seriously.

Now onto the current meta and jades. UI SP and Idol are the culprits. You can go back on hearthpwn in MSG and everyone railed against the design of Jade Idol its just a pure garbage design (regardless of impact in metas) and there are a million ways to make it actually fair. UI is a joke in a ramp class full stop. SP is another gap card that allows the deck to bridge . 

These are the devs that saw tar creeper put in aggro druid and put in  a 1/6 that grows and assumed it was a ctrl card? I mean come on.

I digress...tired of queing into the same deck 6/10 games and then the other 4 are PW or Murlocpal. Time for wild or break!

You're in for a surprise, mate.

 This ^ in Wild it's exactly the same 6/10 games are Jade Druid or Egg/Aggro Druid then the others are Renolock or Secret Pally. Can't tell which meta is worse tbh they're both in a pretty bad spot.